Green Energy, and the German Grid, from: Kiev Is Burning

[lucklucky]

If you can ban fossil fuel advertisement you can ban anything, since all of us use fossil fuel. It is not something fringe. 

 

Many people today that consider themselves Democratic are not very keen on Freedom. Historically there have been a confluence of wills in  those that appreciate democracy and those that appreciate freedom for 3 centuries an alliance to destroy the "Ancient Regime" of monarchy and aristocratic privileged. 

That historical connection is being broken and Democracy is separating itself from Freedom and joining itself with Socialisms to build another Aristocracy. Today in democratic world the bourgeois discovered that the best way to achieve aristocratic privileges is via socialist laws with large number of  jobs and subsidies in political economy: regulation, government bureaucracy, NGO's, Political Education complex, companies that live by government subsidies by creating products for the political religion. With  so much people depending on  Political Religion tax collection instead of being free, it makes democracy irreformable and censorship inevitable.

In the sense Western Democracy is also turning into the lslamic "Democracy" of Iran of sorts.

You can vote but you can only vote in people that share the "green religion". Pun intended.

This leads to Totalitarian Democracy. You can vote but you have laws and regulation for everything and your freedom is very limited since you just have one moral allowed when you have laws and regulations for everything.

[sunday]

1 hour ago, lucklucky said:

If you can ban fossil fuel advertisement you can ban anything, since all of us use fossil fuel. It is not something fringe. 

 

Many people today that consider themselves Democratic are not very keen on Freedom. Historically there have been a confluence of wills in  those that appreciate democracy and those that appreciate freedom for 3 centuries an alliance to destroy the "Ancient Regime" of monarchy and aristocratic privileged. 

That historical connection is being broken and Democracy is separating itself from Freedom and joining itself with Socialisms to build another Aristocracy. Today in democratic world the bourgeois discovered that the best way to achieve aristocratic privileges is via socialist laws with large number of  jobs and subsidies in political economy: regulation, government bureaucracy, NGO's, Political Education complex, companies that live by government subsidies by creating products for the political religion. With  so much people depending on  Political Religion tax collection instead of being free, it makes democracy irreformable and censorship inevitable.

In the sense Western Democracy is also turning into the lslamic "Democracy" of Iran of sorts.

You can vote but you can only vote in people that share the "green religion". Pun intended.

This leads to Totalitarian Democracy. You can vote but you have laws and regulation for everything and your freedom is very limited since you just have one moral allowed when you have laws and regulations for everything.

+1

[rmgill]

It's all really just solar by proxy. 

[Ssnake]

7 hours ago, lucklucky said:

If you can ban fossil fuel advertisement you can ban anything, since all of us use fossil fuel.

Yes, yes... but is banning ads for fossil fuel actually a thing in France?

[lucklucky]

It says that in Le Figaro article

https://www.lefigaro.fr/medias/la-publicite-pour-les-energies-fossiles-desormais-interdite-20220822

[Ssnake]

It seems like this is a European regulation on false advertising. Just like you can't advertise cigarettes as "healthy", advertisers are supposed to stop using "carbon neutral" as a greenwashing throw-away phrase (they must be able to prove it).

And yes, there seems to be also one of those particularly stupid laws in France that seems to ban fossil fuel advertisement; probably just certain forms of it (TV ads, and print media, I suppose); I can't imagine they are trying to force gas stations into hiding. From what I'm reading in the article, it's an outflow of Macron's populist streak. Some progressives advocated for the stupidity, and it seemed like an easy way to score a few appeasement points (spolier alert: Politics is all about popularity contests).

[BansheeOne]

On 7/27/2022 at 11:58 AM, BansheeOne said:

Well according to experts of the TÜV safety inspection organization, from a technical point of view not only could the last three nuke plants still be extended, but another three decommissioned last year could be safely re-commissioned within a few months or even weeks, and all could operate until 2026. It still wouldn't help with substituting for heating and industry use of gas this winter any more than it could be done by other means to replace the ten percent or so used for power generation; but it's notable that even Green minister of economy Robert Habeck is not ruling out nuclear extension pending results of another "stress test" for electric grid stability simulating complete drop-out of Russian gas and French nuclear energy deliveries.

"Spiegel" reports that Habeck's ministry has quietly changed the parameters of the stress test to include effects on electricity prices, making continuation of operations beyond year's end look more sensible. Allegedly two of the three remaining plants could run on the current fuel rods until April at 70 percent load, and the third until June.

[Huba]

And 2 out of 3 are off the chopping block for a bit longer:

 

[rmgill]

Time to build more. 

[BansheeOne]

It's not official yet - the report quotes an unnamed "high official" from the Ministry of Economy that "much speaks for that there should be no way around it". A spokeswoman for the ministry stated that there are no final test results yet, and therefore no conclusions.

[Colin]

17 hours ago, rmgill said:

Time to build more. 

SMR's for Germany and Ukraine 

[BansheeOne]

No surprises:

Quote

Date 02.09.2022

Nord Stream 1: Russia's Gazprom announces indefinite shutdown of pipeline

The Russian oil firm said gas supplies to the pipeline are completely stopped due to equipment issues. The energy giant gave no time frame on when it would restart the pipeline, which supplies gas to Western Europe.

Gazprom halted gas flows through the Nord Stream 1 pipeline to Germany Friday, citing a gas leak and providing no time frame for when supplies could be restarted.

What do we know so far?

The state-owned oil firm said supplies would remain halted through Saturday after the leak was detected. The energy giant said the pipeline would not restart until repairs were fully implemented.

Gazprom said the leak was found at the main gas turbine at the Portovaya compressor station near St Petersburg. On Telegram, Gazprom published a picture of cables covered in a brown liquid and claiming it was a consequence of the defect the state-owned  firm had detected.

On August 19, Gazprom said it would stop the flow of gas through the pipeline from August 31 until September 2 due to routine maintenance.

On Wednesday, the Russian gas giant said the shutdown would last only three days.

Previously Gazprom said gas would continue to flow on Saturday after a turbine's repair was required. Moscow blames Western sanctions for deterring routine maintenance of the Nord Stream 1 pipeline.

Gazprom had sent the 12-meter-long Siemens Energy SGT-A65 (Trent 60) turbine weghing at 20 tons for repairs in Canada in July after a sanctions waiver was permitted.

In response, Siemens Energy said, "Such leaks do not normally affect the operation of a turbine and can be sealed on site. It is a routine procedure within the scope of maintenance work."

The German giant added, "We have already pointed out several times that there are sufficient other turbines available at the Portovaya compressor station for Nord Stream 1 to operate."

How has Germany reacted to the shutdown?

Klaus Mueller, president of the Bundesnetzagentur, Germany's gas regulator, said, "For the time being, the LNG terminals, the relevant storage levels & significant savings requirements are becoming more important."

He added, "It's good that Germany is now better prepared, but now it's down to each and everyone."

A spokesperson for Germany's Economy Minister noted, "We have seen Russia's unreliability in past weeks and so have continued to take measures to reinforce our independence from Russian energy imports,"

Last month, Robert Habeck, Germany's Economy Minister, said, "They don't even have the guts to say 'we are in an economic war with you.'"

[...]

https://www.dw.com/en/nord-stream-1-russias-gazprom-announces-indefinite-shutdown-of-pipeline/a-63006660

[rmgill]

Perhaps the EU can send Greta Thunberg to scold the Russians? 

[nitflegal]

Remember when the media and world leaders mocked Trump for pointing out that getting your energy from Russia was a bad idea?  Remember when those same groups mocked Romney for pointing out that Russia was still a geopolitical enemy?  Shame people didn't mock less and consider more. . . 

[sunday]

25 minutes ago, nitflegal said:

Remember when the media and world leaders mocked Trump for pointing out that getting your energy from Russia was a bad idea?  Remember when those same groups mocked Romney for pointing out that Russia was still a geopolitical enemy?  Shame people didn't mock less and consider more. . . 

So the same people that wanted Russia as a critical trade partner are the ones that now want Putin dead.

Noteworthy. And suicidal.

[rmgill]

Also wildly oppositional to their own positions.
Their local policies are the same way, inconsistent and manic. 

Edited September 3, 2022 by rmgill

[lucklucky]

Maybe because the point is not policies. Maybe the point is to assure that there will be always problems.

[rmgill]

Maybe? No Maybe about it. They want the problems so they always have a reason to accrete more power and authority. 

[lucklucky]

Was you that was complaining about their inconsistency 😉

[lucklucky]

The World laughed at Trump was the journalist narrative.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/09/25/trump-accused-germany-becoming-totally-dependent-russian-energy-un-germans-just-smirked/

[sunday]

Something similar happened to Churchill, Winston*.

*Because this is a military forum, someone could mistake John by Winston.

[rmgill]

21 hours ago, lucklucky said:

Was you that was complaining about their inconsistency 😉

Both can be true. But that's really just the quiet part. 😉

For one, they WANT the power. California continues to vote Democrat. They're on track for not being able to support plug in cars right now, but want to ban all new gasoline cars in 8 years from sale. They LOVE that power. 

 

Edited September 5, 2022 by rmgill

[BansheeOne]

We interrupt your regular spell of TDS for this announcement on the actual topic:

On 9/2/2022 at 10:14 AM, BansheeOne said:

It's not official yet - the report quotes an unnamed "high official" from the Ministry of Economy that "much speaks for that there should be no way around it". A spokeswoman for the ministry stated that there are no final test results yet, and therefore no conclusions.

Two nuke plants are to remain in reserve until mid-April to ensure grid stability in case of "hours-length crisis situations" in winter, which is considered "very unlikely, but cannot currently be ruled out entirely".

[lucklucky]

I would be careful about sabotage in winter.

[DKTanker]

On 8/28/2022 at 6:34 PM, lucklucky said:

This leads to Totalitarian Democracy. 

For example, Democratic People's Republic of Korea and Deutsche Democratic Republic.