BansheeOne Posted May 21, 2022 Posted May 21, 2022 I hope that's a troll tweet. Monkeypox is a well-known disease transmitted through contact with body fluids or scab. The current outbreak seems to be mostly within the gay scene; the Spanish cases were traced to a pride event in the Canary Islands. Shades of HIV, except that fatality rates outside Africa itself are essentially zero (as in the ca. 70 US cases in 2003); in Nigeria since 2017 it has been about three percent, up to eleven among kids under 16.
Stuart Galbraith Posted May 21, 2022 Author Posted May 21, 2022 Well, looking at the guys profile,if that is genuine, we may have a problem. African doctors are baffled at its spread I've read elsewhere.
NickM Posted May 21, 2022 Posted May 21, 2022 1 hour ago, BansheeOne said: I hope that's a troll tweet. Monkeypox is a well-known disease transmitted through contact with body fluids or scab. The current outbreak seems to be mostly within the gay scene; the Spanish cases were traced to a pride event in the Canary Islands. Shades of HIV, except that fatality rates outside Africa itself are essentially zero (as in the ca. 70 US cases in 2003); in Nigeria since 2017 it has been about three percent, up to eleven among kids under 16. Gay centric disease? A BAZILLION Years ago, on the 'Michael Savage' radio show, some caller opined AIDS had it's origin in 'Simian Sodomy'
nitflegal Posted May 21, 2022 Posted May 21, 2022 Unless there's actually new data it's a disease we have long known and studied and have effective treatments for. It is also less mutagenic than something like Covid. It is also higher in lethality in the literature because it usually pops up in areas with very limited medical care, we had an outbreak in the US in the 2000's with no fatalities amongst 70-80 known cases.
nitflegal Posted May 21, 2022 Posted May 21, 2022 I'd also point out that the tweet was from a man who leads a company developing nanoparticles to try and tackle disease treatments and he failed to catch the Covid boat in time. He has a bit of a vested interest in panic treatment responses to pandemic boogeymen.
Stuart Galbraith Posted May 21, 2022 Author Posted May 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, nitflegal said: I'd also point out that the tweet was from a man who leads a company developing nanoparticles to try and tackle disease treatments and he failed to catch the Covid boat in time. He has a bit of a vested interest in panic treatment responses to pandemic boogeymen. Yeah, fair point.
Rick Posted May 21, 2022 Posted May 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, MiloMorai said: That is why a Ministry of Truth is required. Yes, it's called the Bible.
rmgill Posted May 22, 2022 Posted May 22, 2022 11 hours ago, MiloMorai said: That is why a Ministry of Truth is required. No. 1984 is not a bloody how to manual. You want to be Authoritarian, MOVE to Cuba.
sunday Posted May 22, 2022 Posted May 22, 2022 Well, under the heel of Justin Castro Sinclair Canada is already half the way to Cuba.
Stuart Galbraith Posted May 22, 2022 Author Posted May 22, 2022 And within 8 posts, we are already onto the boring US domestic political scene. Do we REALLY need to do another one? Can we just stop, just this once? https://news.sky.com/story/monkeypox-is-a-concern-and-the-us-is-looking-into-treatments-and-vaccines-says-joe-biden-12618684 Monkeypox is something "everybody should be concerned about" and the US is looking into what kind of treatments and vaccines are available, President Joe Biden has said. The World Health Organisation has identified about 80 monkeypox cases globally, and roughly 50 more suspected cases. Cases of the smallpox-related disease have previously been seen only among people with links to central and West Africa. leading doctor told Sky News the UK is facing a "significant rise" in cases over the next week, with 20 infections confirmed so far. Speaking in South Korea before boarding a flight to Japan, Mr Biden said US health officials were looking into possible treatments and vaccines. "It is something that everybody should be concerned about," the US president said. "We're working on it hard to figure out what we do and what vaccine, if any, may be available for it. "It is a concern in a sense that if it were to spread, it's consequential." Professor David Heymann, an infectious disease specialist at the World Health Organisation, said he believed the virus had entered the population as a "sexual form". He said: "What seems to be happening now is that it has got into the population as a sexual form, as a genital form, and is being spread as are sexually transmitted infections, which has amplified its transmission around the world." The president of the British Association for Sexual Health and HIV told Sky News she expected more monkeypox cases to be identified around the UK in the coming week. Dr Claire Dewsnap said: "What worries me the most is there are infections across Europe, so this has already spread. "It's already circulating in the general population. "It could be really significant numbers over the next two or three weeks. "I'm definitely expecting a significant rise over this next week."
lucklucky Posted May 22, 2022 Posted May 22, 2022 There will be "outbreaks" of anything until the WHO Treaty is signed...
DKTanker Posted May 22, 2022 Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, lucklucky said: There will be "outbreaks" of anything until the WHO Treaty is signed... What makes you think fear mongering will cease? Authoritarianism needs a constant enemy target, no matter how much liberty and freedom is ceded it is never satiated. Edited May 22, 2022 by DKTanker
Ivanhoe Posted May 22, 2022 Posted May 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, lucklucky said: There will be "outbreaks" of anything until the WHO Treaty is signed... Speak of the devil... https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/who-warns-monkeypox-could-accelerate-during-summer-cdc-alerts-us-doctors-virus-reaches-13 Quote The Biden administration on May 18 placed an order for millions of doses of a vaccine intended to protect against smallpox and monkeypox from Bavarian Nordic, a Denmark-based biotech company. The vaccine is approved under the name Jynneos in the United States, available to those at high risk of smallpox and monkeypox. Mimi Nguyen Ly writes at The Epoch Times that, according to the CDC, because the monkeypox virus is related to the virus that causes smallpox, the vaccine can protect people from getting monkeypox. “Past data from Africa suggests that the smallpox vaccine is at least 85 [percent] effective in preventing monkeypox,” the CDC stated. “The effectiveness of [Jynneos] against monkeypox was concluded from a clinical study on the immunogenicity of Jynneos and efficacy data from animal studies. “Smallpox and monkeypox vaccines are effective at protecting people against monkeypox when given before exposure to monkeypox. Experts also believe that vaccination after a monkeypox exposure may help prevent the disease or make it less severe.” https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/smallpox/index.html Quote After smallpox was eliminated from the world, routine vaccination against smallpox among the general public was stopped because it was no longer needed. However, because of concern that variola virus might be used as an agent of bioterrorism, the U.S. government has stockpiled enough smallpox vaccine to vaccinate everyone who would need it if a smallpox outbreak were to occur. Kinda sounds a little too Just-In-Time. OTOH, USian military get pox-jabbed before deploying, so I assume our pharma-fab capacity is substantial. Quote If you need long-term protection, you may need to get booster vaccinations regularly. To stay protected from smallpox, you should get booster vaccinations every 3 years.
DKTanker Posted May 22, 2022 Posted May 22, 2022 7 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: And within 8 posts, we are already onto the boring US domestic political scene. Do we REALLY need to do another one? Can we just stop, just this once? Monkeypox is something "everybody should be concerned about" and the US is looking into what kind of treatments and vaccines are available, President Joe Biden has said. And yet you perpetuate it. In anycase, everybody that participates in gay orgy super spreader events should be concerned about a lot of diseases, to include but not exclusively so, Monkeypox.
lucklucky Posted May 22, 2022 Posted May 22, 2022 https://www.nti.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/NTI_Paper_BIO-TTX_Final.pdf
rmgill Posted May 22, 2022 Posted May 22, 2022 Well, at least smallpox vaccines are mostly effective.
DKTanker Posted May 22, 2022 Posted May 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, rmgill said: Well, at least smallpox vaccines are mostly effective. Well,.... WHO is saying that if smallpox vaccinations are implemented there will a need for boosters every three years. Odd how we went lifelong vaccination pre-1970 to a horrible efficacy rate 50 years hence.
rmgill Posted May 22, 2022 Posted May 22, 2022 I'd like to see some third part confirmation on that. I wonder how captured the WHO is.
bojan Posted May 22, 2022 Posted May 22, 2022 32 minutes ago, DKTanker said: Well,.... WHO is saying that if smallpox vaccinations are implemented there will a need for boosters every three years. Odd how we went lifelong vaccination pre-1970 to a horrible efficacy rate 50 years hence. It was not 100% thing for life ever. Man who brought smallpox in 1972. to Yugoslavia was vaccinated. About half of those who got it were also vaccinated, so revaccination of the whole population was promptly started.
BansheeOne Posted May 22, 2022 Posted May 22, 2022 Boosting every three years is recommended for personnel who need definite long-term immunity because they might be regularly exposed to the threat of infection; as far as I can see right now that would apply only to lab workers at institutions actually holding the world's remaining official smallpox stocks, and people hunting for possible illegal stocks, bioweapon labs etc. This intervall seems also based purely on antibody count, which declines below the theoretical protection threshold after three to five years. However, real-world studies suggest that after the regular repeat vaccination of the historic program, a degree of immunity may last for 30 years; one even that merely the initial jab may confer lifelong immunity for most people.
Ivanhoe Posted May 22, 2022 Posted May 22, 2022 11 minutes ago, bojan said: It was not 100% thing for life ever. Man who brought smallpox in 1972. to Yugoslavia was vaccinated. About half of those who got it were also vaccinated, so revaccination of the whole population was promptly started. I'm probably wrong, but I have the impression that the US federal government's primary concern about smallpox over the last 30 years is tourists to 3rd world countries bringing spores back on their footwear, and somehow getting the spores into livestock areas. I am guessing that the CDC hasn't been concerned due to smallpox vaccination, even though vaccination stopped in 1972.
Stuart Galbraith Posted May 22, 2022 Author Posted May 22, 2022 2 hours ago, DKTanker said: And yet you perpetuate it. In anycase, everybody that participates in gay orgy super spreader events should be concerned about a lot of diseases, to include but not exclusively so, Monkeypox. Did I raise it in this thread? No I did not. And I wasn't the one that pissed the covid thread down the drain with conspiracy theory and political sectarian horseshit either. https://news.sky.com/story/monkeypox-uk-faces-significant-rise-in-cases-as-more-infections-reported-in-europe-and-us-12618092 The UK is facing a "significant rise" in monkeypox cases over the next week, an expert has warned, as new infections were reported in mainland Europe and the US. A total of 120 confirmed or suspected cases have been reported globally - including 20 in the UK - with the majority of infections in Spain linked to a sauna in Madrid. Switzerland recorded its first confirmed case on Saturday after an infected person developed a fever and a rash and felt unwell, authorities said. The infection followed "close physical contact abroad" and the affected person is isolating at home, they added Wonder if it could be passed by handtowels?
bojan Posted May 22, 2022 Posted May 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Ivanhoe said: I'm probably wrong, but I have the impression that the US federal government's primary concern about smallpox over the last 30 years is tourists to 3rd world countries bringing spores back on their footwear, and somehow getting the spores into livestock areas. I am guessing that the CDC hasn't been concerned due to smallpox vaccination, even though vaccination stopped in 1972. 1972. Yugoslav outbreak was such freak accident - clergymen went to hajj to the Muslim holly sites in IIRC Iraq, came back, felt unwell, but symptoms were flu like and he got well after few days. None in his immediate neighborhood got it, but person from the same town, for whom contact with patient zero was never confirmed got it and spread it further.
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