Markus Becker Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17thfabn Posted May 27, 2022 Author Share Posted May 27, 2022 On 5/20/2022 at 8:18 AM, bojan said: .45 really sucked as a SMG cartridge. Bojan, you are in violation of the "St. John Browning deification Act of 1976" . Subsection 1911 requires glorification of all thing .45 caliber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 21 minutes ago, 17thfabn said: Bojan, you are in violation of the "St. John Browning deification Act of 1976" . Subsection 1911 requires glorification of all thing .45 caliber. In handguns, for the blessed .45 was designed for one. Can't blame the round if the Gubbermint misuses it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojan Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 1 hour ago, 17thfabn said: Bojan, you are in violation of the "St. John Browning deification Act of 1976" . Subsection 1911 requires glorification of all thing .45 caliber. Browning preferred .40 caliber himself over .45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17thfabn Posted May 28, 2022 Author Share Posted May 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, bojan said: Browning preferred .40 caliber himself over .45. Heretic!!! 9 mm I could understand. .40 is the transgender of calibers. Should not be allowed to compete or be seen in public. Probably why no self respecting gun shop has any in stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougRichards Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 On 5/25/2022 at 11:18 AM, 17thfabn said: A quick change barrel, a pistol grip and a decent bipod would have done a lot to improve the U.S. BAR. Maybe a 30 round magazine, thou that may have been too long and interfere with operating the weapon. Unless it was above rather than below receiver... But that sounds too much like most other armies' magazine LMGs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olof Larsson Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 5 hours ago, 17thfabn said: Heretic!!! 9 mm I could understand. .40 is the transgender of calibers. Should not be allowed to compete or be seen in public. Probably why no self respecting gun shop has any in stock. Are you insinuating that saint John Moses Browning, Jeff Copper and Theodore Roosevelt was wrong? I do certainly hope that you are only referring to the .40 S&W abomination, that was developed by the evil minions of Satan, to defile the infallible creation of Jeff Cooper. This with the aim to create a round suitable for women, weak wristed men and degenerated government employees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Ian gives it the treatment: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 On all key technical measures, the Next Generation Squad Weapons program is imploding before Army’s very eyes. The program is on mechanical life support, with its progenitors at the Joint Chiefs obstinately now ramming the program through despite spectacularly failing multiple civilian-sector peer reviews almost immediately upon commercial release. https://www.armytimes.com/opinion/commentary/2023/02/28/the-not-really-next-generation-weapons-program/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 5 hours ago, Markus Becker said: On all key technical measures, the Next Generation Squad Weapons program is imploding before Army’s very eyes. The program is on mechanical life support, with its progenitors at the Joint Chiefs obstinately now ramming the program through despite spectacularly failing multiple civilian-sector peer reviews almost immediately upon commercial release. https://www.armytimes.com/opinion/commentary/2023/02/28/the-not-really-next-generation-weapons-program/ This article has been pretty widely panned as an unsupported opinion piece. I'm still waiting for field reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 5 hours ago, shep854 said: This article has been pretty widely panned as an unsupported opinion piece. I'm still waiting for field reviews. Opinion yes, but unsupported? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Great videos! I've also taken the M7 concept with a grain of salt and I don't see it 'replacing' the M4 or 5.56. I consider this video rather authoritative: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Aaand...the followup video to Alabama Arsenal's armor video; he sounds like he may be coming around: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojan Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) As long as someone in the military thinks that rifleman's rifle decides even squad level firefight there will be no solution. Edited March 20, 2023 by bojan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17thfabn Posted May 28, 2023 Author Share Posted May 28, 2023 The XM7 & XM250 are in field trials. Probably not surprisingly since this is a review by an Army publication it is receiving rave reviews. A Soldier with the 75th Ranger Regiment said on the XM7, “Absolutely would take this weapon to combat in a heartbeat. It is light, functions very well, has an awesome load system, and is easy to handle and engage targets with.” On the XM250, another Soldier expressed, “I would certainly take this weapon into combat today. This feels like a huge upgrade as far as ergonomics of controls, recoil management and ease of manipulation over the M249.” https://www.army.mil/article/264799/army_moving_forward_with_next_generation_squad_weapon_program#:~:text=Last April%2C the Army awarded,within the close combat force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawes Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Seems that, no matter how thoroughly weapons are tested, when they get out into the field some issues pop up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dawes said: Seems that, no matter how thoroughly weapons are tested, when they get out into the field some issues pop up. 'Field use' and 'field testing' are NOT the same thing. Edited May 29, 2023 by shep854 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardaukar Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 On 5/28/2022 at 3:12 AM, bojan said: Browning preferred .40 caliber himself over .45. I think that 7.62x25 was better SMG caliber than 9x19 or .45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 3 hours ago, Sardaukar said: I think that 7.62x25 was better SMG caliber than 9x19 or .45. Wicked little round. The original-spec cartridge is banned in US as 'armor piercing handgun ammunition'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 7.63 Mauser, the round preferred by knowledgeable mobsters when their rivals use armored vehicles, and the 7.62x25 could be still more powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojan Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Sardaukar said: I think that 7.62x25 was better SMG caliber than 9x19 or .45. Yes, high mv = flat shooting = better effective range (if SMG was even hallway decent). But 9x19 was also decent compromise. Only .45 really sucked and gave Americans impression that SMG is "sub 50m thing". 1 hour ago, sunday said: 7.63 Mauser, the round preferred by knowledgeable mobsters when their rivals use armored vehicles, and the 7.62x25 could be still more powerful. Hot loaded 7.62x25 from SMG length barrels gets pretty close to .30 Carbine muzzle velocities, through with a lighter bullet. Mobsters also preferred .38 Super chambered 1911s over .45 ACP for same reason. Edited May 29, 2023 by bojan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17thfabn Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 Troops from the 101st Division and the Ranger regiment testing the new next generation squad weapons. In the pictures the weapons appear to have massive muzzle flashes. Comments in the article say this is due to firing blanks, and blank adapters being used. "Next Generation Squad Weapons Tested by Ft Campbell Infantry, Rangers" https://soldiersystems.net/2023/12/11/next-generation-squad-weapons-tested-by-ft-campbell-infantry-rangers/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 It will be interesting to hear what troops think after humping the guns and their ammo over hill and dale for a few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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