Spain requests MH-60R's

[Dawes]

Doesn't Spain operate the NH90?

https://www.dsca.mil/sites/default/files/mas/Press Release - Spain 22-09 CN Final.pdf

[sunday]

40 minutes ago, Dawes said:

Doesn't Spain operate the NH90?

https://www.dsca.mil/sites/default/files/mas/Press Release - Spain 22-09 CN Final.pdf

Not for ASW, and the Armada is not very fond of the NH90.

[R011]

The Spanish Navy operates SH-60B and F.  They are apparently planning to buy a few NH-90 maritime transports.  The Spanish Army operates NH-90 transports.

[Dawes]

The document mentions that four of the eight aircraft requested will be delivered with Airborne Low Frequency Sonar installed. Are these four helicopters therefore dedicated to ASW or can the equipment be swapped between aircraft?

[sunday]

Swapping equipment between helos is an established practice, especially in the matter of FLIRs and the like.

Seems these helos will be asigned to the existing F80 and F100 frigates, and it seems some kind of NH90 ASW will equip the F110s. So I was wrong.

The NH90 ASW could be available by 2027, according to this.

[Simon Tan]

Buy 2 Chinese clones, get 3rd at helf price.

[sunday]

14 minutes ago, Simon Tan said:

Buy 2 Chinese clones, get 3rd at helf price.

Airbus Helicopters put an assembly plant in the region of a former Defence Minister in order to sell us Tigers, NH-90, and the like. The Chinese do not do that!

Edited March 16, 2022 by sunday

[Simon Tan]

They sell you stuff that works, not vaporware.

[sunday]

Yes, but baksheesh is lower.

[Simon Tan]

!!!!There is no Baksheesh in EU!!!!!! Never. Russian lies.

[sunday]

4 minutes ago, Simon Tan said:

!!!!There is no Baksheesh in EU!!!!!! Never. Russian lies.

I see you have not heard about our Socialist party...

[RETAC21]

8 hours ago, R011 said:

The Spanish Navy operates SH-60B and F.  They are apparently planning to buy a few NH-90 maritime transports.  The Spanish Army operates NH-90 transports.

The Bravos are reaching the end of their service lives and the Foxtrots were defanged to become troop transports and replace the Sea Kings. These possible contract would aim to close the gap between the first Bravos being taken out and the NH-90s ever becoming operational (Airbus sez 2027, but...). Tipically, "provisional" measures will become permanent.

[R011]

Is there a good chance the remaining Bravos will be replaced by Romeos?  Are the NH90 intended to replace the Foxtrots and how long do you think it will take to replace them with an H-60 variant like the Australians did?

[RETAC21]

54 minutes ago, R011 said:

Is there a good chance the remaining Bravos will be replaced by Romeos?  Are the NH90 intended to replace the Foxtrots and how long do you think it will take to replace them with an H-60 variant like the Australians did?

Yes, that's what the Navy really wants and what makes sense (the sensors would already be integrated with the existing and future frigates), but Sunday is right that common sense walked out a long time ago, replaced by political expediency.