Luftwaffe F-104G's

[Dawes]

Never knew that Germany had any F-4 Wild Weasels.

[Ssnake]

They were the last ones to go from the whole Phantom fleet, IIRC.

[Pavel Novak]

I think this is not correct. By wild weasel with F-4 is usually thought US F-4G which Germany doesn't have.

Germany had RF-4E and F-4F and few F-4E used for training.

[Yama]

Their recon Phantoms were armed, maybe it refers to that?

[Pavel Novak]

May be, but they were capable of classical strikes but not dedicated SEAD/DEAD.

[seahawk]

11 hours ago, Ssnake said:

They were the last ones to go from the whole Phantom fleet, IIRC.

No, we did not have any F-4Gs. The last to go were pure fighters. F-4F ICE with AIM-120 and the APG-65Y.

[Perun]

3 hours ago, Yama said:

Their recon Phantoms were armed, maybe it refers to that?

What weapons did they use

[lucklucky]

Germany had no F-4 Wild Weasel only recon.

[Pavel Novak]

On 3/25/2022 at 2:30 PM, Perun said:

What weapons did they use

Various standard NATO dumb bombs and rockets.

[Perun]

Ok, thanks

[lucklucky]

I think they Mavericks but not sure in the recon version.

[Poopstain]

On 3/12/2022 at 8:13 AM, bojan said:

Would not surprise me, locally MiG-21 were adored, as were F-86s before, while both were widowmakers.

Pretty much all 1950's jets were "widowmakers."    The percentage of aircraft manufactured that were lost to accidents often exceeds 40%.

[MiloMorai]

On 3/24/2022 at 7:09 AM, Yama said:

Even many of the trainer aircraft often had deadly 'snap stall' characteristics. Amazingly, this was considered a good thing, since it was better that a trainee crashed an inexpensive training aircraft, than an expensive fighter.

T-6 Harvard off WW2 for one. The Tiger Moth also had some quirks.

[Stuart Galbraith]

I gather in Holland (or was it denmark?) any Tiger Moths have to be modified with an ugly triangular tail, which I gather gives more authority in a spin.

It was Holland.

Edited March 29, 2022 by Stuart Galbraith