Windows 11 update

[NickM]

Gang;

I'm asking all the "fora" I loiter about on if Win11 is 'Da' or 'Nyet'; what says this grate site (tm)?

[Ivanhoe]

For me it is a nyet yet.

Doesn't fix any extant problems I have with Win10, plus MS is increasing the pressure to link your Win11 install to your Microsoft acct. Which means more spyware (a.k.a. "telemetry"). Gamers seem to think it will be an improvement, net-net.

The direction MS is going with desktop Windows has me planning to go back to Linux as my primary desktop/laptop OS, with a WinXX virtual machine only as needed. Back in the 2010-2014 timeframe, that's how I rolled.

[Soren Ras]

Same here. The new "features" are all things I either actively don't want, would not use, or just don't care about. I too will be returning to Linux as primary OS.

 

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[Ssnake]

I've read no good reasons in favor of Win 11, and a few reasons against, already mentioned. Maybe it's a trend towards invading your privacy, maybe it's the rule of every other Windows version being stupid.

[Rickard N]

I'm not updating yet. Looks wise it seems to be an improvement for what I prefer though

/R

[LT Ducky]

…….I still find Windows 10 annoying, use it at work but not by preference, Windows 7 at home.

[Steven P Allen]

3 hours ago, LT Ducky said:

…….I still find Windows 10 annoying, use it at work but not by preference, Windows 7 at home.

Same here, but I am being forced to upgrade at home since our VPN no longer "supports" Win7.  *sigh*

[lucklucky]

Nyet.

I have W11 in one of laptops. I replaced W10 because an ATI crap graphic card would not work . But the same continue to occur in W11.

I don't see any advantage of going into W11 and only inconveniences. Maybe when Android apps will appear that will change.

[TrustMe]

I read about certain dodgy stuff with non-Microsoft applications like Chrome. It seems that the Win11 OS constantly sends you messages telling you to use MS Edge if you use Chrome. It's kinda annoying.

[lucklucky]

A trick is to have Edge opened but doing nothing with it.

[Harold Jones]

I'm waiting, my current pc is stable and does everything I ask of it performance wise.  I'm sure the IT folks will force an upgrade on my work PC some day and I'll get a chance to test drive 11 on it.

[Ivanhoe]

8 hours ago, lucklucky said:

Maybe when Android apps will appear that will change.

With apps comes spying.

[Ssnake]

On 2/14/2022 at 12:26 PM, LT Ducky said:

…….I still find Windows 10 annoying, use it at work but not by preference, Windows 7 at home.

That's an increasingly risky strategy if you still connect to the internet. With the end of security patches comes the point where, sooner or later, a specific known exploit that won't get patched will be routinely tried. Roaming the internet with Windows XP and older Windows versions will get you infected in minutes rather than hours these days. It's no longer a question of if, just when. Windows 7 is better, but only marginally so.

There's programs to modify the Windows 10 start menu to look closer to Windows 7 if you need that as an emotional cushion (not meant in a sarcastic manner, seriously; I fully understand how user interface changes can be highly annoying). So, that would be my recommended course of action. Also, when installing Windows 10, simply disconnect your PC from the internet, so the installer by default offers you to create a local user account rather than trying to get you to sign up for a Microsoft ID. And then of course, there's O&O's "Shutup 10" as the tool of choice to disable Windows 10's spyware functions. You'll need to run this again after feature updates, however.

[Rickard N]

I honestly don't see any upside of win7 to win10. That's me so take it for what it is.

I haven't either seen any issues with either win8 or win8.1, the latter was "forced" on me to handle virtual machines (I didn't have to carry a customer's computer since I was allowed to have a VM instead).

Funny thing is that my dad loathes all versions of Windows after NT4 SP5 or 6a (don't remember which), and every time I ask him what he wants to do and where that would be residing in NT4Sp5, it almost always is found in the exact same place in Win7/10

/R

[lucklucky]

For me W7 is not an option.

I have many programs that do not work already in W7 . Freeware video/composite editor DaVinci Resolve is one. Blender 3D  application is another, i use GPU to render with new Nvidia RTX and their Optix processing system.

 

This is a well know Blender benchmark, this video is from 2016. The 1060 card render that image in 1m30sec, today my 3060 render that scene in 13 seconds. But it needs to be in W10 because the Nvidia drivers are now set for W10. Same issues with upcoming  Unreal 5.

 

Creation applications with AI  like this

 

[NickM]

On 2/14/2022 at 10:28 AM, lucklucky said:

A trick is to have Edge opened but doing nothing with it.

Ah is THAT the trick? I accidentally updated my laptop and my firefox and chrome browsers are blocked from being used to visit this grate site (and others)

[lucklucky]

Not ever happened here, you must have some preferences/permissions that makes that possible.

[Ivanhoe]

9 hours ago, NickM said:

Ah is THAT the trick? I accidentally updated my laptop and my firefox and chrome browsers are blocked from being used to visit this grate site (and others)

Check your DNS settings. I recommend Quad 9 (9.9.9.9).

 

[lucklucky]

Stoped using and opening Edge. Installed Brave to do some stuff. No complains from W11.

[Ivanhoe]

20 minutes ago, lucklucky said:

Stoped using and opening Edge. Installed Brave to do some stuff. No complains from W11.

I've been using Brave, but I am going back to Iridium for a Chrome-compatible browser.

[lucklucky]

I also have Vivaldi, Opera

[NickM]

On 2/27/2022 at 5:36 AM, Ivanhoe said:

Check your DNS settings. I recommend Quad 9 (9.9.9.9).

 

What's a DNS setting?

[Murph]

I will stay on Windows 10 Pro till it dies, then go 100% Linux.  I had Windows 11, and hated it on an MSI gaming laptop.  New coat of paint, extra spyware and ads, on top of the old Windows XP system.  Watch these videos:

 

 

 

 

 

[lucklucky]

Ditto.

[DB]

12 hours ago, NickM said:

What's a DNS setting?

Domain Name Service - it translates names like "tanknet.org" into numerical addresses that can be routed by "the internet".

Your internet router usually points at a DNS provided by your Service Provider, and your connected devices point at your router, which redirects lookups to the remote service.