BuckeyeRedleg134 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 On 2/15/2022 at 4:11 PM, shrike6 said: I decided to go through and try to eliminate unit redundancy in the US Army part. The main combat arms (Armor, Infantry, Field Artillery) are complete. Aviation is still a work in progress. Decided to lay it out in a different way than the original orbat so it was easier for me to find the redundancies and correct them. units1989a1 (version 1).xlsx 186.32 kB · 15 downloads Just one small change that I see. 1-166 IN was part of the 73rd IB (OH ARNG) in 1989 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouieD Posted February 18, 2022 Author Share Posted February 18, 2022 Shrike and Buckeye, Shrike, 297 Inf Grp FA1989.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeRedleg134 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 LouieD, Gotta love the FA Redbook!! Always has good info. I always found it a bit odd that my former unit (1-136 FA) was listed as a "Separate Battalion" when we were organic to the 73rd IB. But breaking that out may have made the list more clunky... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FALightFighter Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 22 hours ago, BuckeyeRedleg134 said: LouieD, Gotta love the FA Redbook!! Always has good info. I always found it a bit odd that my former unit (1-136 FA) was listed as a "Separate Battalion" when we were organic to the 73rd IB. But breaking that out may have made the list more clunky... From the perspective of the Artillery School, it did not have a higher FA command (DIVARTY, FA Brigade, etc), so it was a separate. The whole list of separates in the Redbook is the battalions assigned to the separate brigades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeRedleg134 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 That's exactly the case, we just found it weird to be called "separate". I think a number of those battalions were truly separate, especially USAR battalions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrike6 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 On 2/17/2022 at 12:34 PM, BuckeyeRedleg134 said: Just one small change that I see. 1-166 IN was part of the 73rd IB (OH ARNG) in 1989 You're right. Makes me wonder if I skipped the 73rd in whole. New version coming soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeRedleg134 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 No, you accounted for the other two infantry battalions and the FA battalion. A fantastic bit of work, BTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETAC21 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Since you were there, how ready do you consider these formations to go toe to toe vs the Soviets? would they need substantial training before deployment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrike6 Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 version 1.1 fixed errors with 1/166th Infantry and E/116th Cavalry usarmyunits19891a1.xlsx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeRedleg134 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 On 2/20/2022 at 4:45 AM, RETAC21 said: Since you were there, how ready do you consider these formations to go toe to toe vs the Soviets? would they need substantial training before deployment? I can only speak to my experience with my unit and to some degree, our parent brigade. We were reservists and as such our training time was limited. At the battery level, our gun crews were probably on par with any in the active force. Training at the battalion level was less extensive, but the battalion never failed to pass our evaluations to standard. Our mobilization plans called for 30-45 days of pre-deployment training. Looking back, we probably needed 60+ to more realistically be "ready" for combat operations. I'm honestly not sure how we would have fared. The 73rd Infantry Brigade had a Theater Defense mission for the Aleutian Islands, so my guess is that our most likely opponent would have been Soviet Naval Infantry. Not exactly an easy ask... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETAC21 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 5 hours ago, BuckeyeRedleg134 said: I can only speak to my experience with my unit and to some degree, our parent brigade. We were reservists and as such our training time was limited. At the battery level, our gun crews were probably on par with any in the active force. Training at the battalion level was less extensive, but the battalion never failed to pass our evaluations to standard. Our mobilization plans called for 30-45 days of pre-deployment training. Looking back, we probably needed 60+ to more realistically be "ready" for combat operations. I'm honestly not sure how we would have fared. The 73rd Infantry Brigade had a Theater Defense mission for the Aleutian Islands, so my guess is that our most likely opponent would have been Soviet Naval Infantry. Not exactly an easy ask... Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeRedleg134 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 11/17/2021 at 5:54 PM, Perun said: Hi mates, how are we advancing on NATO OOB update front I finished translating YPA ground force OOB, next is air force and navy and then I will update and finish notes And then is Albania... All should be finished in week or two max, could be finished much faster if is needed Perun, Were you able to complete your redo of the YPA ORBAT? I'm interested to see the new info that you've obtained. Was the question about including naval forces ever answered? I'm currently trying to nail down a US Navy ORBAT for 1989, but getting good info can be challenging. You really need to set a specific date for the ORBAT to be accurate. Otherwise it becomes a mess of notes for who is currently deployed where and when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 JNA oob is 99% finished, I included all ground, air and navy units. I cant post it here hecouse my "add files" limit is now on only 39 kB. On which email should I send document? Who is in charge here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeRedleg134 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 4 hours ago, Perun said: JNA oob is 99% finished, I included all ground, air and navy units. I cant post it here hecouse my "add files" limit is now on only 39 kB. On which email should I send document? Who is in charge here "Who is in charge here?" Always a key question... 😉 Does someone have a Dropbox or Google Drive folder that could be used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 How are we doing here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Hi mates. In NATO order of battle 1989. V8.6, in usaf & co equipment holdings (note 2) aircraft in storage are mentioned. Is this storage AMARC or something else or both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 I finished YPA oob, it will be here in few days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeRedleg134 Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 21 hours ago, Perun said: I finished YPA oob, it will be here in few days Nice!! Looking forward to seeing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 Could you post it, I cant, I have 39 kB limit for adding files Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeRedleg134 Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, Perun said: Could you post it, I cant, I have 39 kB limit for adding files Happy to. I PM'd you with my email address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 Thanks mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeRedleg134 Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 A revised and updated JNA ORBAT has been generated by Perun. He's asked me to post it. Looks really fantastic, nicely done!! JNA radno 11.11.2021..docx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Thanks mate 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hurricane Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Thanks for sharing your research on the JNA Perun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perun Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Any time 😊 It has some gramatical errors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now