Authoritarism in Hungary and Poland

[Ssnake]

8 hours ago, Ivanhoe said:

You're not a good authoritarian unless you jail people who put pineapple and/or mayo on pizza.

So, a mayo-pineapple-filled Calzone would be fine?

[Ivanhoe]

58 minutes ago, Ssnake said:

So, a mayo-pineapple-filled Calzone would be fine?

Rome wasn't built in a day. First things first.

[bojan]

10 hours ago, Ivanhoe said:

You're not a good authoritarian member of society unless you jail people who put pineapple and/or mayo on pizza.

Fixed it for you

 

[jmsaari]

While not a fan of either, after seeing what passes for pizza in Brazil , mayo or pineapple seem downright normal...

A popular one they called the pizza portuguesa had, IIRC, at least big chunks of ham, hard-boiled egg halves, canned peas,  olives, various vegetable slices... Come to think of it, if they left out the bottom and added a bit smetana, it would've been a decent variation of a russian salad, but how anyone could call that abomination a pizza is beyond me.

Edited August 1, 2022 by jmsaari

[Ssnake]

Olives are OK. You don't have to like them, but I wouldn't condemn a chef for using them as a pizza topping. Big meatballs, hard-boiled eggs ... yeah, you're entering Kenny Loggins territory.

[Olof Larsson]

4 hours ago, jmsaari said:

While not a fan of either, after seeing what passes for pizza in Brazil , mayo or pineapple seem downright normal...

A popular one they called the pizza portuguesa had, IIRC, at least big chunks of ham, hard-boiled egg halves, canned peas,  olives, various vegetable slices... Come to think of it, if they left out the bottom and added a bit smetana, it would've been a decent variation of a russian salad, but how anyone could call that abomination a pizza is beyond me.

Well, the pizza goes back at least 7000 years. The non-italian Pineapples have been used on pizzas for 60 years and the equally non-italian tomatoes a mere 200-250 years, so if one should ban pineapples on pizza, one might as well ban tomatoes. Because in the grand scheme of things, they are new additions, that does not originate in Italy. Basil, artichokes or wheat doesn't originate in Italy eighter for that matter

[MiloMorai]

No it wasn't a Canadian. One can blame Americans for pineapple on pizza. From Portland.

Hawaiian Pizza's True Origin? - Scotts Pizza Tours

 

Edited August 1, 2022 by MiloMorai

[Ivanhoe]

7 hours ago, Ssnake said:

Olives are OK. You don't have to like them, but I wouldn't condemn a chef for using them as a pizza topping. Big meatballs, hard-boiled eggs ... yeah, you're entering Kenny Loggins territory.

Black olives, one would hope.

[Ivanhoe]

5 hours ago, MiloMorai said:

No it wasn't a Canadian. One can blame Americans for pineapple on pizza. From Portland.

Is Portland really part of America?

 

[MiloMorai]

2 minutes ago, Ivanhoe said:

Is Portland really part of America?

 

For now, anyways.🙂

[Ivanhoe]

4 hours ago, MiloMorai said:

For now, anyways.🙂

I'm sadly not in a position to make the trade, but I'd like to offer Portland in exchange for Vancouver Island. Terms would require Canada to keep the Portlandians, VIers could stay or go as they please.

Offer becomes null and void, should an Ark Fleet Ship B solution come into play.

[Angrybk]

On 8/1/2022 at 5:52 AM, jmsaari said:

While not a fan of either, after seeing what passes for pizza in Brazil , mayo or pineapple seem downright normal...

A popular one they called the pizza portuguesa had, IIRC, at least big chunks of ham, hard-boiled egg halves, canned peas,  olives, various vegetable slices... Come to think of it, if they left out the bottom and added a bit smetana, it would've been a decent variation of a russian salad, but how anyone could call that abomination a pizza is beyond me.

One weird thing I’ve noted in my many travels is that I’ve never had a non-disgusting hamburger outside the US. It’s one of the simpler meals to make from a US perspective and foreigners just completely f@ck it up. 

[bojan]

Come to Balkans, feel the power of pljeskavica and forget about burgers.

 

[Angrybk]

58 minutes ago, bojan said:

Come to Balkans, feel the power of pljeskavica and forget about burgers.

 

Sounds delicious! Personally I like and respect local food from every place/city I’ve ever visited (probably only exception being Quebecois non-Jewish Canadian food, their smoked meat and bagels are awesome but poutine is bullshit).
 Re burgers, I think it’s a case of “this thing is do simple to make, how do you f@ck it up so badly”. I’m sure a lot of people  feel the same way when visiting foreign countries too. 

Edited August 3, 2022 by Angrybk

[Skywalkre]

2 hours ago, Angrybk said:

One weird thing I’ve noted in my many travels is that I’ve never had a non-disgusting hamburger outside the US. It’s one of the simpler meals to make from a US perspective and foreigners just completely f@ck it up. 

Just... how?! 

[Harold Jones]

What I find is that the texture is just not right.

[Angrybk]

4 hours ago, Harold Jones said:

What I find is that the texture is just not right.

Yah exactly 

[Leo Niehorster]

Pljeskavica, especially filled with goats' cheese are great!  🥰

German hamburgers have a lot of bread on them, and hence are dryer than US burgers.

Much better are the large German meatballs (Frikallen) — which, although also containing bread — are a lot thicker and more moist, with onions, eggs, mustard, salt, and pepper. Fried or backed. Eaten hot or cold. Yumm. 🤤

--
Leo

[Stuart Galbraith]

On 8/1/2022 at 12:38 AM, lucklucky said:

it was a link to an embedded image like this that landed a British subject into the jail in the  "Liberal Not Authoritarian" Europe

 

Thats actually quite a clever image. You either say Gay Nazi flag, or you see new Gay Woke Flag repeated 4 times, presumably depending on your life experience.

 

[sunday]

1 hour ago, Leo Niehorster said:

Much better are the large German meatballs (Frikallen) — which, although also containing bread — are a lot thicker and more moist, with onions, eggs, mustard, salt, and pepper. Fried or backed. Eaten hot or cold. Yumm.

Are these related to Frikadellen?

[Leo Niehorster]

1 minute ago, sunday said:

Are these related to Frikadellen?

Yup. Thanks for the correction. My eyes are not what they were, and I often mistype.

--
Leo

[sunday]

Sorry, did not think that was a correction, and thank you for your gracious answer.

There was a place in Barcelona where they used to make very good ones.

Edited August 4, 2022 by sunday

[Leo Niehorster]

Frikadellen or Hamburgers?

--
Leo

[sunday]

Frikadellen. On burgers, there are Five Guys outlets galore around here.

[jmsaari]

1 hour ago, Leo Niehorster said:

Pljeskavica, especially filled with goats' cheese are great!  🥰

German hamburgers have a lot of bread on them, and hence are dryer than US burgers.

Much better are the large German meatballs (Frikallen) — which, although also containing bread — are a lot thicker and more moist, with onions, eggs, mustard, salt, and pepper. Fried or backed. Eaten hot or cold. Yumm. 🤤

--
Leo

For me hamburger is 100% ground beef + seasoning, nothing else... no bread, egg, milk, onion can come in rings on top but not on the patty. 

Not sure how would be american burgers having never been there, but i suspect it could be about the coarseness of the meat as well... We used to have really nice coarse-ground brisket that was great for smash burgers but the only burger meats now sold are much more finely ground and the patties don't get the same texture and become denser and more homogeneous - though on the plus side don't break so easily on turning, and it's still somewhat juicy when you make a thick 250 gram patty and leave it medium-rare.