Authoritarism in Hungary and Poland

[lucklucky]

1 hour ago, DB said:

Why do you keep posting about countries other than Hungary and Poland in this topic?

Because it singled only Hungary and Poland for authoritarian tendencies when it is going in, in in all  "Western" world.

[sunday]

35 minutes ago, lucklucky said:

Because it singled only Hungary and Poland for authoritarian tendencies when it is going in, in in all  "Western" world.

But it is only authoritarianism when Hungarians and Poles, or more exactly their current governments, do it. Same things in other Western countries are examples of our very Democratic with Rule of Law Western Civilization.

So, no, no French riot police beating French Yellow Vests here, nor New Mexico governor suppressing 2nd. Ammendment either, etc.

[BansheeOne]

2 hours ago, lucklucky said:

Because it singled only Hungary and Poland for authoritarian tendencies when it is going in, in in all  "Western" world.

If you go back to the first post, the thread starter singled out Hungary and Poland with the expressive suggestion that all the talk about authoritarianism there is leftist lies. Of course within three posts, bojan told everyone authoritatively that it's real, with some interesting subsequent deconstruction of Orban's system in particular. Since expectations of hearing that it's all lies weren't met, whataboutisms about other countries started right on page one.

[John T]

39 minutes ago, BansheeOne said:

If you go back to the first post, the thread starter singled out Hungary and Poland with the expressive suggestion that all the talk about authoritarianism there is leftist lies. Of course within three posts, bojan told everyone authoritatively that it's real, with some interesting subsequent deconstruction of Orban's system in particular. Since expectations of hearing that it's all lies weren't met, whataboutisms about other countries started right on page one.

The most amusing sign of Hungarian democracy is that the Hungarian Parlament might not accept Sweden into NATO due to the Swedish government's inability to suppress critical comments about the lack of Hungarian democracy in the free press.

 

"All pigs are equal but Hungarian pigs are more equal"

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/hungary-parliament-speaker-flags-possible-further-delay-swedish-nato-2023-09-18/

[Roman Alymov]

On 9/1/2023 at 9:20 PM, urbanoid said:

Not about authoritarianism, but still about Poland and Hungary

 

For sure it is much better to be dependent on transit via Poland  

[urbanoid]

18 minutes ago, Roman Alymov said:

For sure it is much better to be dependent on transit via Poland  

That's up to Hungary to decide, Czechs and Slovaks are apparently interested - and from there it's just a short way really, a matter of some interconnectors most likely. That'll give Budapest an option which they may or may not use, maybe now, maybe a few years down the road? 

The goal is obvious - less Russian resources in Europe. Few billion cubic meters here, few billion cubic meters there and suddenly we're talking about serious money.

 

[JWB]