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6 hours ago, lucklucky said:

 

Well, it is fortunate that is not happening in Poland or Hungary, otherwise indignation would rise like steam in a locomotive.

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If they try something stupid it won't end well for them. Hungary's going to shit, it was usually cheaper than Poland and had bigger wages, now it's more expensive and the average wages are lower. 

 https://www.msn.com/pl-pl/finanse/najpopularniejsze-artykuly/tego-jeszcze-nie-było-polacy-na-węgrzech-dostają-szoku/ar-AA1fvGGO?cvid=76cad178c99e4f21be31f9999b4fe5d0&ocid=winp2fptaskbar&ei=6

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Tory councillor arrested for ‘hate crime’ after sharing video criticising police.

Anthony Stevens had retweeted a video showing police arrest of a Christian street preacher

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/27/tory-councillor-arrested-racial-hate-crime-anthony-stevens/

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A Conservative councillor was arrested for an alleged hate crime after re-tweeting a video criticising how the police treated a Christian street preacher.

Cllr Anthony Stevens, 50, from Wellingborough, Northamptonshire, told The Telegraph he was arrested at his home this month and escorted to a police station for questioning about tweets from his personal account, which has 76 followers.

One tweet involved a video showing how police had treated the arrest of Christian preacher Oluwole Ilisanmi in Southgate, London, in 2019.

A police officer snatched Mr Ilisanmi’s Bible after the preacher was accused of being Islamophobic. Mr Ilisanmi was later awarded £2,500 for wrongful arrest. The video, shared by Cllr Stevens in May, also showed footage of a police officer apparently stating that a Muslim preacher was allowed to preach on a high street. (...)

 

 

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No doubt through his father -who is a well-paid lobbyist for Hungary in DC - Tucker went to Hungary for several times, where he was suckered into the whole Viktor Orban narrative.

Well that explains this particular thing, including his latest trip where he apologized on behalf of the American people for the US ambassador's lecturing on LGBT politics. He's totally welcome to come to Berlin and do the same for the antics of the last gay US ambassador here. 😄

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"It's disgusting and inexcusable. It's also so far from the norms of diplomacy in my country that it's hard for me to believe that David Pressman is actually doing what he's doing.

"And so for a creep like David Pressman, who is not a diplomat - who's a political activist and Biden donor - to show up in your country and lecture you about your culture, and threaten you because you do things differently from the way they do things where he lives... hurts the United States and is a grave embarrassment to me as an American, and an outrage to me as someone who pays his salary. It's disgusting."

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/tucker-carlson-apologizes-hungary-behalf-america-slams-disgusting-us-ambassador-over-lack

RT editor-in-chief Margarita Simonyan recently mentioned on Vladimir Soloviev's show that Carlson has asked to interview Putin. I wouldn't be surprised.

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/09/04/its-time-the-west-admitted-free-speech-is-dead/

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Päivi Räsänen is a doctor, longstanding MP and former interior minister. In 2019, police opened an investigation into her for “incitement against a minority”. The accusation is based upon a tweet in which she asked why the Lutheran Church sponsored a Pride event; a debate in which she said God intends us to be straight; and a booklet she authored nearly 20 years ago that argued homosexuality is a developmental disorder.

The Finnish police concluded that no crime had been committed, but the prosecutor-general decided to charge her anyway. In 2022, Räsänen went to court: three judges, no jury, no witnesses and not even a victim to say they took offence. The judges decided in Räsänen’s favour; the prosecutor, who won’t take no for an answer, simply brought the case back via appeal. The second trial wrapped up last week, and if Räsänen is found guilty, she could face jail.

 

 

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Here in the UK, a street preacher was arrested in 2019; this year, a Tory councillor says he lost his job after tweeting that pride is a sin (indeed it’s the sin that led to Satan’s rebellion and humanity being cast out of Eden). A different Tory councillor, Anthony Stevens, tweeted his sympathy for these people – and was in turn arrested for an alleged hate crime. Stevens did not appear publicly to endorse the theology of either man; he was standing up for their right to express it. Not to be able to say something is bad enough. Not to be able to say that someone should be able to say something is surreal.

 

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16 hours ago, urbanoid said:

I agree, if you only told me what I should be jealous about though? 

Not gonna tell you what you "should" be, but it sounds like you are of TC paying attention Hungary.

Your quoted post of  that twitter incompoop is totally inconsequential and ridiculous btw.

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1 hour ago, Strannik said:

Not gonna tell you what you "should" be, but it sounds like you are of TC paying attention Hungary.

Your quoted post of  that twitter incompoop is totally inconsequential and ridiculous btw.

Yeah, whatever helps you sleep at night. 

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54 minutes ago, DB said:

Why do you keep posting about countries other than Hungary and Poland in this topic?

It's all in accord with applied Tanknet Transitory Property. It seems to boil down to any off topic reply can be on topic it is far enough off topic.

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