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People are usually quite interested in what the "other fellow" is doing, so there will be reports and evaluations. As to what is available, the first thing that springs to mind is the book "The Tiger Tank: A British View" it's a collection of material on the capture and study of the Tiger. There's bound to be others, but that's the only one I know of that's been published.

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In the end, the gun-armor race may have sidetracked critical mobility concerns of
the commanders and troops in the field. Speer’s November 1944 report from a trip to
Italy (November 19–25) showed that the troops were willing to give up armor and
weight in order to gain maneuverability and mobility:


 

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"On the Southwest Front, opinions are in favor of the Sherman tank and its cross-country
ability. The Sherman tank climbs mountains that our Panzer crews consider impassable.
This is accomplished by the especially powerful engine in the Sherman in comparison
to its weight. Also, according to reports from the 26th Panzer Division, the terrain crossing
ability on level ground (in the Po valley) is completely superior to our Panzers.
The Sherman tanks drive freely cross-country, while our Panzers must remain on trails
and narrow roads and therefore are very restricted in their ability to fight.
All Panzer crews want to receive lighter Panzers, which are more maneuverable,
possess increased ability to cross terrain, and guarantee the necessary combat power
just with a superior gun. This desire by the troops corresponds with conditions that
will develop in the future as a result of the drop in production capacity and of the
fact that, because of a shortage of chrome, sufficient armor plate can’t be produced
to meet the increased production plans. Therefore, either the number of Panzers
produced must be reduced or it will be necessary to reduce the thickness of the armor
plate. In that case, the troops will unequivocally ask for a reduction of the armor
thickness in order to increase the total number of Panzers produced.6
In the end, the nature of World War II suggests that numbers did count, provided some
minimum level of quality could be delivered.

6. Jentz, Panzertruppen (1996),II: pp 150-151

 

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The Germans tested (or at least touroughly inspected) about everything they captured at Kummersdorf, not jsut to evaluate the vehicles as fighting vehicles, but also to try and learn something from their engineering.  A Char 2C ended up there and these pictures are interesting: a listing and pictures of captured tanks and a gneneral article on the tanks in the proving grounds

http://beutepanzer.ru/Beutepanzer/Museum/museum.html

 

http://beutepanzer.ru/Beutepanzer/Museum/Articles/Artcile.html
 

There are some extracts from these repaorts in Spielberger's Beutekraftwagen un Panzer .....

In the book are some extracts of testing done on a Churchill tank captured at Dieppe and testing it fitted with return rollers ... The report on the tank was rahter ... scathing

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On 11/4/2021 at 8:32 PM, Inhapi said:

The Germans tested (or at least touroughly inspected) about everything they captured at Kummersdorf, not jsut to evaluate the vehicles as fighting vehicles, but also to try and learn something from their engineering.  A Char 2C ended up there and these pictures are interesting: a listing and pictures of captured tanks and a gneneral article on the tanks in the proving grounds

http://beutepanzer.ru/Beutepanzer/Museum/museum.html

 

http://beutepanzer.ru/Beutepanzer/Museum/Articles/Artcile.html
 

There are some extracts from these repaorts in Spielberger's Beutekraftwagen un Panzer .....

In the book are some extracts of testing done on a Churchill tank captured at Dieppe and testing it fitted with return rollers ... The report on the tank was rahter ... scathing

They still out them into service thkugh. One of them was recaptured on the advance out of Normandy (complete with a brass plate showing where it was captured). But it had done the honourable thing and broke down iirc.

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From the Dieppe raid they captured Dingos and Churchills. They apparently liked the dingos once they figured out the driveline. Those were pressed into service apparently. 

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1 hour ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

They still out them into service thkugh. One of them was recaptured on the advance out of Normandy (complete with a brass plate showing where it was captured). But it had done the honourable thing and broke down iirc.

Yes, Basically they used everything they could get going, even some A13's in Barbarossa (no need to say these didn't last long)

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