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On 6/6/2021 at 9:33 PM, Stuart Galbraith said:

 

The 106s seems to be standard ones mounted on a frame, not from an Ontos which Venezuela never used. They have an acute lack of armor and recently even garden ornaments are being refurbished and publicly hailed as “the people fighting against imperialism”. 

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On 6/9/2021 at 12:15 PM, TonyE said:

Meanwhile in Peru......:

 

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Peru has been for a long tiem experimenting with several “upgrades” for their obsolescent armored fleet, usually by Industrias Casanave, with some odd combinations which looks like are only good for parades. It all started with SS-11s (which should have been looong expired) on AMX-13s and T-55, follwed by Saggers, new guns, FCS….. but little if any real production

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On 6/7/2021 at 3:32 AM, Rickard N said:

What improvement to the original cannon would this give more than a coordinated volley?

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I can think of two reasons:

  1. It could be they have 106mm ammunition, or can get it cheap, but can't get, or won't pay for, 75mm
  2. It's possible that this mounting can fire at high elevations.  If it can, it might be substantially more useful in mountainous or urban areas than the original turret.
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On 6/11/2021 at 4:47 PM, CaptLuke said:

I can think of two reasons:

  1. It could be they have 106mm ammunition, or can get it cheap, but can't get, or won't pay for, 75mm
  2. It's possible that this mounting can fire at high elevations.  If it can, it might be substantially more useful in mountainous or urban areas than the original turret.

75mm ammo is not a problem. ST Kinetics make it, and the Singapore army has a large stockpile when they demobilised the AMX-13 from their inventory. They can buy all they want from Singapore. Even APFSDS rounds.

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The AMX-13 chassis is amazingly adaptable. In Singapore, we developed a AVLB version. And there is a APC version, the VCI. As well as anti aircraft DCA, SS-11 missile carriers, etc.

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10 minutes ago, On the way said:

75mm ammo is not a problem. ST Kinetics make it, and the Singapore army has a large stockpile when they demobilised the AMX-13 from their inventory. They can buy all they want from Singapore. Even APFSDS rounds.

I never disputed that the ammunition is available in general sense.  My questions were more:

  • Is the price affordable to Venezuela
  • Even if it is, is it worth the political fall out from the US that would presumably come to a seller like Singapore, or other US aligned countries, from dealing arms to Venezuela?
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On 7/5/2021 at 12:27 PM, CaptLuke said:

I never disputed that the ammunition is available in general sense.  My questions were more:

  • Is the price affordable to Venezuela
  • Even if it is, is it worth the political fall out from the US that would presumably come to a seller like Singapore, or other US aligned countries, from dealing arms to Venezuela?

Singapore has illegally dealt arms to many countries under some form of embargo or other. That includes the Myanmar regime, Balkan war combatants, african banana republics, Fijian coup govts. etc. The US turns a blind eye knowing the importance of a strategic alliance with Singapore. I don't think selling weapons to Venezuela would be a problem for singapore, the problem is whether they can pay or not.

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