Simon Tan Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 (edited) (165) Rare footage of the Belgian Military in 1939 - YouTube Superb manouevre footage. Spot the MG08s. But best is the Canon de 76 FRC, also referred to as a Mortier d'Accompagniement. It is muzzle loaded and direct fire capable. Awesome. Edited May 30, 2021 by Simon Tan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Tan Posted May 30, 2021 Author Share Posted May 30, 2021 Tankovia needs some for the Mountain Infantry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETAC21 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 36 minutes ago, Simon Tan said: Tankovia needs some for the Mountain Infantry! Chasseurs de Tankovia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbo Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Simon Tan said: (165) Rare footage of the Belgian Military in 1939 - YouTube Superb manouevre footage. Spot the MG08s. But best is the Canon de 76 FRC, also referred to as a Mortier d'Accompagniement. It is muzzle loaded and direct fire capable. Awesome. And new, shiny T 13s 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 It's a Minenwerfer just bigger and why mountain infantry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Tan Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 It's a lovechild between a minenwerfer and an infantry gun. It is good for the mountain infantry as it light (243kg). Unlike the Belgians, we would probably adapt it to be broken down for mule packing. The carriage isn't robust enough for towing. These are all issues with our Bohlers (which were mostly recarriaged for motorized towing). Indeed I am wondering if we can use the old Bohler carriages for this purpose. Hmmmm..... a Bohler based 81mm mortar with low-angle capability.....interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougRichards Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 6 hours ago, Simon Tan said: It's a lovechild between a minenwerfer and an infantry gun. It is good for the mountain infantry as it light (243kg). Unlike the Belgians, we would probably adapt it to be broken down for mule packing. The carriage isn't robust enough for towing. These are all issues with our Bohlers (which were mostly recarriaged for motorized towing). Indeed I am wondering if we can use the old Bohler carriages for this purpose. Hmmmm..... a Bohler based 81mm mortar with low-angle capability.....interesting. Put it on a portee.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Tan Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 Portee requires motorization. Tankovia is only partially motorized by WW2. And heavily concentrated in the Mechanized Brigades. Territorial battalions have limited motorization and lorries are probably much more important for hauling supplies than as portee tractors. Like most continental armies, we have mules and horsies for our infantry, the territorial battalions in particular.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 (edited) Pssssst!💪 Combined twin barrelled anti-tank gun and mortar/infantry gun on the same carriage, available in 37/81mm or 47/75mm, from Bofors with love. Edited May 31, 2021 by TonyE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Tan Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 (edited) Combo guns aren't much good. AT guns and mortars do different things. And combos are even bigger and heavier. The Bohler 47mm does have a HE round but it's a lot less effective than a 81mm mortar bomb. Those combo guns look field artillery size.  Edited May 31, 2021 by Simon Tan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 12 hours ago, Simon Tan said: It's a lovechild between a minenwerfer and an infantry gun. Why muzzle loading? From the breech would be safer for the crew in direct fire.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Tan Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 Muzzle loading means lighter construction. It will be mostly used indirectly anyway. In direct fire, the absence of a gun shield makes the benefits of breech loading moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moN5QnpehOc The U.S.N. had the above in Vietnam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-44 Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Full documentary: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6pBjeX9LTnY&t=2688s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yama Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 On 5/30/2021 at 6:44 PM, Simon Tan said: Tankovia needs some for the Mountain Infantry! ...based on famous Alpini infantry of Belgium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Tan Posted June 8, 2021 Author Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) Because they have dog teams! Edited June 8, 2021 by Simon Tan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Becker Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 On 6/7/2021 at 9:07 PM, Yama said: ...based on famous Alpini infantry of Belgium? The Ardennes aren't high but they are steep and narrow, cold too in winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 We need a tank, we can't afford a tank, but.... Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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