USS Johnston DD-557 Wreck

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[Mikel2]

Of Taffy 3 fame? What a historical ship.

[shep854]

6 hours ago, Mikel2 said:

Of Taffy 3 fame? What a historical ship.

That's the one.

[JasonJ]

That's some great footage.

[shep854]

7 hours ago, JasonJ said:

That's some great footage.

Really poignant, especially the clip with her guns trained out, showing she died fighting.  I hope the anecdote of Japanese officers saluting as she sank is true; an all-too-rare example of honor in an especially brutal war.

Edited April 23, 2021 by shep854

[JasonJ]

6 hours ago, shep854 said:

Really poignant, especially the clip with her guns trained out, showing she died fighting.  I hope the anecdote of Japanese officers saluting as she sank is true; an all-too-rare example of honor in an especially brutal war.

Seems to be true. I don't see anything saying otherwise. Some links that mention it. Yukikaze's commanding officer was Masamichi Terauchi

http://lst4001.blog31.fc2.com/blog-entry-245.html?sp

https://dic.nicovideo.jp/t/a/ジョンストン(艦これ)

https://ja.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/雪風_(駆逐艦)

 

[shep854]

Analysis of Johnson's damage; apparently mounts 51 and 51 were knocked out early on:

 

Edited November 2, 2022 by shep854

[futon]

The English wiki on Johnston says when it was engaged by Yamato and Nagato, that Johnston was hit by 6 inch (implied Yamato) and 14 inch (implied Nagato). The video says Johnston was hit by Yamato's 18 inch. But maybe these were really Nagato's 14 inch. Japanese wiki on Yamato mentions author Robert Lundgren saying that Johnston was hit by the 3 18inch as well as 3 15cm from Yamato. But aside from that, it also says that whatever heavy shells that hit Johnston at 0728 could have been from either Yamato, Nagato, Kongo, or Haruna. It could be tempting to use a name like Yamato in telling how the damage was sustained. So it raises an interest into as whether or not it really was Yamato's 18 inch or inconclusive.

 

[sunday]

Nagato had 16" guns.

[shep854]

I was a bit surprised that they were confident enough to link hits to specific ships.

[futon]

18 minutes ago, sunday said:

Nagato had 16" guns.

My mistake.

The bit from the English wiki on Johnston:

But as Johnston charged and engaged Kumano, she was in turn engaged by battleships Yamato and Nagato, and cruisers Haruna and Suzuya.[11] At 0730,[38] Johnston sustained three 14 in and three 6 in shell hits.

So it implies Haruna.

[futon]

14 minutes ago, shep854 said:

I was a bit surprised that they were confident enough to link hits to specific ships.

They may be combining their pictures with what's in Robert Lundgren's book. No idea whether or not the book hits the marks or relies alot on trying to deduce from from what's known. Surely at least some of the hits can be stated confedently. 

[sunday]

22 minutes ago, futon said:

My mistake.

The bit from the English wiki on Johnston:

But as Johnston charged and engaged Kumano, she was in turn engaged by battleships Yamato and Nagato, and cruisers Haruna and Suzuya.[11] At 0730,[38] Johnston sustained three 14 in and three 6 in shell hits.

So it implies Haruna.

Sigh, the wiki has the usual issues

Suzuya, as a Mogami-class cruiser, should have their 6" in triple turrets replaced by 8" in doubles.

Haruna should be a BB by then, but had 6" secondaries. So yes, Haruna could have done it.

Edited November 2, 2022 by sunday

[shep854]

1 hour ago, futon said:

They may be combining their pictures with what's in Robert Lundgren's book. No idea whether or not the book hits the marks or relies alot on trying to deduce from from what's known. Surely at least some of the hits can be stated confedently. 

Still, the imagery and interpretation of the damage only emphasized the crew's courage and desperation.

[Mikel2]

Damn it. Now I will have to re-read "The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors".

I cannot fathom the balls those people had charging one of the largest battlefleets in history with a few destroyers and escort carriers. No wonder the Japanese thought they were being attacked by heavy cruisers, instead of destroyers, helping them misjudge the range and what kind of ammunition to use.  IIRC, Yamato alone weighed more than all ships in Taffy 3 combined.

Edited November 2, 2022 by Mikel2