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Any available shotgun should be fine, and intermediate choke and anywhere from 7.5 to 9 shot should work at the ranges described, while offering the advantage of limiting the danger space downrange.  I don't see much need to go more than trap loads, the drones I've examined are all light weight uber alles and blades and optics getting peppered with lead pinholes will put them down just as effectively as blasting them apart. 

Assuming some drones have been captured, a quick down and dirty testing with the intended gun and loads will give a quick idea of your engagement envelope.  S/F....Ken M 

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Your concept of usage isn't clear - you talk about banned airspace for the drones but want something that is easily man-portable and requires minimal training, which implies ad-hoc use, rather than specially purposed controlled airspace. Or maybe your customer bans drone use generally in urban areas or something?

If you want to stop them delivering drugs into prisons, use a fixed location jammer and/or DF them first to take the controller out, and the same with protest management/riot control duties - you've got vehicles for mounting and power, so adapt them. yeah, it will mean that various consumer gear stops working whilst you're jamming, but that's tough luck.

As for lethality, commercial drones aren't exactly hard targets, with moulded plastic skins and in particular very flimsy rotors. You're not going to need 4mm tungsten fragments to take out a DJI Mavic, for example. Shotguns are only going to push them back a bit, though - they can definitely gather intel at longer ranges than you can shoot pellets.

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It's for border force police to shoot down drones used by smuggling cartels to track and surveil. There is a drone ban in the area but criminals don't follow laws.

There is no money for detection and jamming infrastructure. Most of the areas covered are highly remote and don't even have power supply.

Right now the drones can literally fly close enough to read insignia and they can do nothing. They don't even need prosumer.

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I see, that makes sense.

Any reliable semi-auto that can fire a large load of small shot to circa 30-50m sounds reasonable.

I don't own a consumer drone, so I can't tell what materials they're made from but I would expect ABS or nylon with a little glass loading and probably nothing much thicker than 2mm. Easy enough to test which weight of shot you'd need at a range without having to actually buy more than one or two drones to measure the materials in the first place.

After that, well, the border patrol will have to learn to shoot straight, because if you've got no automation then that's all you have left.

 

Maybe training with clays and hand-traps is cheap enough, and quite good fun, too. (Skeet shooting has already been mentioned for training I think.)

This isn't a problem that needs a MIC solution.

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14 hours ago, Simon Tan said:

It's for border force police to shoot down drones used by smuggling cartels to track and surveil. There is a drone ban in the area but criminals don't follow laws.

There is no money for detection and jamming infrastructure. Most of the areas covered are highly remote and don't even have power supply.

Right now the drones can literally fly close enough to read insignia and they can do nothing. They don't even need prosumer.

Is this an extant current issue in your AO? You're not speaking hypothetically then. 

Are you trying to sort out ammo. If it would help.....hmm. What are the ITAR issues with exporting shotgun ammo....?
 

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Yes. it is. No I am not. Sonsofbitches are pushing all that expensive shit that the country cannot afford. So instead we have NO COUNTERMEASURES. 

Ammo can be managed but our standard birdshot is 2 3/4 No. 8. Without flight control. 

And the powers that be just don't understand that cheap n gud is better than exorbitant and nonexistent.

A proof of concept is what is being pieced together. The shotty needs to be usable both for drone busting and as a primary long gun. And training is more easily supported if tied into competition like practical shotty and IPSC. We cant do 3 gun, centerfire long guns are nonexistent outside of .gov.

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7 hours ago, Simon Tan said:

Drones don't see much at night. Illum is generally not available. We barely issue weaponlights.

Laser pointers to softkill the cameras? at least they are cheap and abundant

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