sunday Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 Then one could use a dredge to move back the sand to the embankment, once the ship has floated away.
Ssnake Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 Well, I think we were simply on different pages - dislodging a containership (you) vs widening the canal in general (me). So the suggestion to use water to pump the embankment into the canal just to dredge it up again struck me as an attempt at absurdist humor.
sunday Posted April 6, 2021 Posted April 6, 2021 16 minutes ago, Ssnake said: Well, I think we were simply on different pages - dislodging a containership (you) vs widening the canal in general (me). So the suggestion to use water to pump the embankment into the canal just to dredge it up again struck me as an attempt at absurdist humor. No, if you have a ship prow stuck in an embankment, and enough space under the keel, you could use hydraulicking plus a dredge afterwards, but you, generally, could not use only a dredge to widen a canal in order to unstuck the ship. I mean, the canal is about 200m wide, and the ship's prow is only stuck a few meters, probably less than 20m.
Ssnake Posted April 7, 2021 Posted April 7, 2021 I had no intention whatsoever to widen a canal while a ship was still stuck in it. Please, drop it already.
sunday Posted April 7, 2021 Posted April 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, Ssnake said: I had no intention whatsoever to widen a canal while a ship was still stuck in it. Please, drop it already. I never thought you had, sorry.
Ivanhoe Posted April 22, 2021 Posted April 22, 2021 https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/superyacht-pulled-through-netherlands-canals/index.html
BansheeOne Posted April 24, 2021 Posted April 24, 2021 Quote Date 23.04.2021 Ever Given still 'stranded' in Suez waters amid legal fracas Although freed inside the Suez Canal, the megaship Ever Given and its cargo remain impounded in Egypt as its insurers dispute the bill for last month's shipping logjam. The Suez Canal Authority (SCA) wants $916 million (€761 million) recompense for last month's six-day snarl of world shipping, but on Friday the insurer of the Egyptian-impounded Ever Given said it had filed an appeal and again implied costs were exaggerated. London-based maritime insurer UK P&I called for a "fair and swift resolution" of the SCA's claim to enable the vessel to continue on her intended voyage and the crew to leave Egypt." Last week, the insurer asserted the SCA bill before an Egyptian court at Ismailia, close to canal network's Great Bitter Lake, where the megaship remains, was "largely unsupported." On Friday, it said that its appeal at Ismailia's court would be heard on May 4, having filed an appeal on Thursday. "The appeal against the arrest was made on several grounds, including the validity of the arrest obtained in respect of the cargo and the lack of supporting evidence for the SCA's very significant claim," UK P&I said in a statement. The sum was stated last week by a judicial official and was also reported by the state-run Al-Ahram daily newspaper, although details were not spelled out publicly by the SCA. UK P&I, meanwhile, had put the bill at $916 million and said that a large portion of it was for a loss of "reputation" for the SCA. UKP&I said that a "generous offer" had been made to settle the claim and that it would continue to negotiate outside court. It said it was providing the company with third-party insurance cover for costs such as damage to infrastructure or claims for obstruction. The cargo on board and the vessel itself were "insured separately," it noted. 'No pollution' caused, ship was 'fully operational' Towed free on March 29, the Ever Given had caused "no pollution and no reported injuries" and had been "fully operational" with a capable crew on board when it grounded, UK P&I said last week. The megaship, stacked with containers headed for Rotterdam, remained "under detention," said UK P&I, adding it was "encouraged," however, that the SCA had allowed two crew members to return home for "compassionate reasons." Still on board were 25 crew members, including two substitutes, all from India. Owner at fault? Last week, SCA chief Osama Rabie claimed the Japanese owner, Shoei Kisen Kaisha Ltd., did "not want to pay anything," while also claiming the ship's owner was at fault, and said negotiations were ongoing. The ship's fate was "in the legal arena," said a spokeswoman for the owner in a brief statement at the time. Litigation could be complex since the Japanese-owned giant is operated by a Taiwanese shipper and flagged in Panama. Egypt put its daily canal revenue losses at $12 -15 million. On a far broader scale, Lloyd's List had estimated the general costs of blockage of cargo ferrying between Asia and Europe at $9.6 billion each day for the world economy. [...] https://www.dw.com/en/ever-given-still-stranded-in-suez-waters-amid-legal-fracas/a-57318956
BansheeOne Posted July 5, 2021 Posted July 5, 2021 Quote Date 05.07.2021 Ever Given ship that blocked Suez Canal to be released Egyptian officials are set to release the Panama-flagged Ever Given ship at a special ceremony following a deal with the ship's owners and insurers. The vessel was seized after it had blocked the Suez Canal. The Ever Given container ship, impounded by Egypt after it blocked the Suez Canal for nearly a week, will be released on Wednesday following an agreement with its owners and insurers, the Suez Canal Authority (SCA) said on Sunday. The canal authority said a ceremony would be held on July 7 to mark the signing of an agreement with the owners and "the departure of the ship." The 400-meter (1,312 feet) long mega-ship was passing through a single-lane portion of the Suez Canal on March 23 when it veered off course and got stuck diagonally across the canal during a sandstorm. It remained wedged there for six days, blocking a vital route between Europe and Asia, and disrupting global trade. Why was the ship retained? After the ship was finally dislodged, it was held by the canal authority which sought compensation from the ship's Japanese owners for lost revenue and the cost of salvaging it. The canal authority reported that revenue lost during the time that the Ever Given was stuck amounted to $12-15 million (€10-12.6 million) a day. Maritime data company Lloyd's List said in April that the blockage held up an estimated $9.6 billion worth of cargo each day. What do we know about the deal? Last week, SCA chief Osama Rabie said that Egypt signed a non-disclosure agreement with the owners of Ever Given as the final settlement was being finalized. Initially, the canal authority has sought $900 million in compensation to cover lost revenue, salvage efforts, and damage to reputation. But the amount was later publicly lowered to $550 million. "We are pleased to announce that... good progress has been made and a formal solution agreed," said Faz Peermohamed, a member of the London-based Stann Marine law firm which represents owner Shoei Kisen and its insurers. "Preparations for the release of the vessel will be made and an event marking the agreement will be held at the Authority's headquarters in Ismailia in due course," Peermohamed said. The lawyer did not give details of the settlement. SCA chairman Rabie said the canal will receive a tugboat with a pulling capacity of 75 tonnes as part of the settlement. "We preserved the rights of the authority in full, preserved our relationship with the company and also political relations with Japan," he told a private TV channel on Sunday evening. How much money does SCA bring in? According to official figures, the SCA earned Egypt just over $5.7 billion of revenue in the 2019-20 fiscal year. Despite the Ever Given accident, the canal's revenue in the first six months of 2021 stood at $3 billion, an increase of 8.8% compared to the same period last year. https://www.dw.com/en/ever-given-ship-that-blocked-suez-canal-to-be-released/a-58158033
Ssnake Posted July 5, 2021 Posted July 5, 2021 Nice... we extorted billions, now we're throwing a party for you that'll cost us thousands!
Rickard N Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 Wasn't the ship under pilot when it got stuck? (or what it might be called) /R
Stuart Galbraith Posted July 7, 2021 Posted July 7, 2021 From the description given on the Bianco Lirio channel, the problem was the ships rudder (Its been seen to be too small in another incident in Holland) and the state of the bottom of the canal. They dont dredge it enough, creating something like low and high pressure areas giving limited rudder effectiveness for any ship. I dont know if it was under pilot or not, but I think if it was, he was pretty much along for the ride with everyone else in that wind.
JWB Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 Quote On June 23 lawyers for the SCA (Suez Canal Authority) and Shoei Kisen, the Japanese owner, and their insurance company Stann Marine agreed on a deal that would free the container ship and its 18,000 cargo containers. In March the Ever Given ran aground in the canal and blocked it for six days. Finally freed on March 29th, Ever Given, instead of receiving an apology for the accident, was seized as Egypt demanded $993 million for “loss of business and reputation”. That demand was later reduced to $550 million. The final settlement was less than half the demands and payable as installments. Details of the settlement were not revealed except that one condition was that Shoei Kisen would give SCA a tug boat with a towing capacity of at least 75 tons. https://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htseamo/20210728.aspx
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