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Yesterday, one member of this Grate Sight notified us he was going to lose work because some posts he just liked in Facebook.

The number of members that reacted as somebody that believes in freedom of speech to be a human right could be counted with the fingers of one hand.

I think that shows there are problems in our respective societies.

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Well, I don't think I need to voice my specific opinion to be clear that I think it's a bloody travesty how that's working. I think I've been crystal clear on all this in the various arguments from bad english pug jokes to now. 

Personally, I'm expecting some call to the HR office sooner or later. But I also wonder if our HR reps are even doing much work other than processing the various reorg related business with the occasional layoffs that have been processed to cut back on expenses so our parent company can pay off the debt of the acquisition. 

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Bottom line is that those of us who believe in free speech and rule of law simply must step up and develop our own economy.

Which means paying the membership fee at news/opinion websites, contributing to organizations like FIRE, etc. If someone loses their job due to politics, kick 'em a few bucks so that the Maoists don't win.

Passivity is surrender.

 

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1 hour ago, sunday said:

Yesterday, one member of this Grate Sight notified us he was going to lose work because some posts he just liked in Facebook.

The number of members that reacted as somebody that believes in freedom of speech to be a human right could be counted with the fingers of one hand.

I think that shows there are problems in our respective societies.

what?!? where?

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57 minutes ago, rmgill said:

Well, I don't think I need to voice my specific opinion to be clear that I think it's a bloody travesty how that's working. I think I've been crystal clear on all this in the various arguments from bad english pug jokes to now. 

Personally, I'm expecting some call to the HR office sooner or later. But I also wonder if our HR reps are even doing much work other than processing the various reorg related business with the occasional layoffs that have been processed to cut back on expenses so our parent company can pay off the debt of the acquisition. 

Of course, that's harassment, and your company should have some policy against it, remember, they cannot held your religion, race or politics against you and if they have such a policy (which I am pretty sure they do) then you can throw it to their face and use it for further litigation.

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10 minutes ago, RETAC21 said:

what?!? where?

Activity -> All Activity

One of the 3 most recently active threads, as of now.

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Unfortunately, social media and how people interpret posts (or even likes) is just toxic. My wife told me months ago that she doesn’t see a whole lot of ‘freedom’ on social media, at least in the US. This was during the aftermaths of the BLM riots. Coming from a former Soviet country, she was under the impression that people in the US would be more free to express their thoughts.

I told her...I agree, that’s why I’m a bit silent on social media, or I post neutral things. I mean, yeah, I gave up and I’m no longer willing to fight it, as I got too much to lose. 

I feel very bad for the individual who had lost their job and I hope he seeks litigation. 

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13 minutes ago, crazyinsane105 said:

Unfortunately, social media and how people interpret posts (or even likes) is just toxic. My wife told me months ago that she doesn’t see a whole lot of ‘freedom’ on social media, at least in the US. This was during the aftermaths of the BLM riots. Coming from a former Soviet country, she was under the impression that people in the US would be more free to express their thoughts.

I told her...I agree, that’s why I’m a bit silent on social media, or I post neutral things. I mean, yeah, I gave up and I’m no longer willing to fight it, as I got too much to lose. 

I feel very bad for the individual who had lost their job and I hope he seeks litigation. 

A Nobel Prize winner was hounded out of his job because of an off-color joke.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3132413/Eight-Nobel-prize-winners-attack-lynch-mob-forced-sexism-row-professor-Sir-Tim-Hunt-job.html

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In the states we have a stunning lack of critical thinking literacy, it is not emphasized at all and yet it's upstream of nearly all that we see.

For example, asking people questions about policy on college campuses and then challenging them even the slightest  bit on the consequences and ramifications causes their stance to utterly fall apart.  It's not even sporting.  

The majority of our country has no idea the dangerous connotations of moving goalposts, changing the meaning of words and using them against you by playing "six degrees of kevin bacon" on what constitutes hate speech. They don't care because they think they are on the "right" side and for the moment it benefits them. They have no appreciation that it may not always or those same tactics can be wielded against them. They have other priorities and are too focused on how it benefits them in the present.

It's a big ship to steer and even if everyone was agreed would take generational time scales to change.

 

We are so deep at this point, with so many institutions becoming activist and driven by distorted perceptions of reality by perceived public pressure that the only way out now is through - ie, regressive policies will come to a head over the next few decades and counter culture efforts several generations down the line will rediscover notions of individual liberty, equality and judging people as individuals based on their own actions and not their group identity. Everything old is new again.

 

It doesn't have to be this way, but no society has ever been able to remain vigilant enough to hold onto lessons learned for more than a few generations before their descendants simply have to learn them again for themselves. In the meantime you have to deal with little dark ages.

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3 hours ago, sunday said:

Yesterday, one member of this Grate Sight notified us he was going to lose work because some posts he just liked in Facebook.

You mean nitflegal?  I went back to that thread.  The latest he posted was he thinks nothing will come of it.  Has he mentioned elsewhere that he's been let go?

I understand a lot of folks posting these days are angry and upset... truth and reality has fallen by the wayside to many posters (for months, sadly).  Still... is it asking too much to engage in a conversation honestly, especially from the start?

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8 minutes ago, Skywalkre said:

You mean nitflegal?  I went back to that thread.  The latest he posted was he thinks nothing will come of it.  Has he mentioned elsewhere that he's been let go?

I understand a lot of folks posting these days are angry and upset... truth and reality has fallen by the wayside to many posters (for months, sadly).  Still... is it asking too much to engage in a conversation honestly, especially from the start?

I know it is difficult for one afflicted with TDS, but you should get the posting times, and post contents, straight before trying to gaslight your betters.

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19 minutes ago, sunday said:

I know it is difficult for one afflicted with TDS, but you should get the posting times, and post contents, straight before trying to gaslight your betters.

You're right in that I didn't check the posting times close enough.  nitflegal's latest comment is just an hour old while this thread is 3h old.  Still, his initial comments never said it was a certainty while your post leads off that it is.  Maybe try working on getting the content accurate in your own posts as well (though, yeah... from a guy still pushing rigged US elections that's probably asking too much).

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To wish you better luck at your next gaslighting attempt could be understood as sporting, but I am not doing it.

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30 minutes ago, Skywalkre said:

You mean nitflegal?  I went back to that thread.  The latest he posted was he thinks nothing will come of it.  Has he mentioned elsewhere that he's been let go?

I understand a lot of folks posting these days are angry and upset... truth and reality has fallen by the wayside to many posters (for months, sadly).  Still... is it asking too much to engage in a conversation honestly, especially from the start?

Sunday wasn't being dishonest. 

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He says he thinks nothing will probably come of it - this time.

 

I, for one, find that quite reassuring that so long as he keeps his mouth shut and agrees with the Party, he likely will not be need to engage in a self criticism session.

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You allowed women to vote and hold roles in some positions fairly important to stable society, what did you think would happen?  As a SEAL I am acquainted with said, "the problem isn't with the chicks, , it's that it enables weak men." 

People need to actually look around then, watch what people actually do (often to opposite of what they say) and then use that thing that's keeping their ears apart to consider what it means.  Frankly, most people go around actively avoiding any observation of their environment because it's such shit and it causes them emotional pain because what they are told is so contrary to what they see.  It's an even greater problem than the lack of mental ability to consider what they see, although that is an issue as well.  S/F....Ken M  

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43 minutes ago, Skywalkre said:

You're right in that I didn't check the posting times close enough.  nitflegal's latest comment is just an hour old while this thread is 3h old.  Still, his initial comments never said it was a certainty while your post leads off that it is.  Maybe try working on getting the content accurate in your own posts as well (though, yeah... from a guy still pushing rigged US elections that's probably asking too much).

Then promise us that if the worst happens to him, you will come back and publicly admit what an idiot you were.

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54 minutes ago, Rickard N said:

Namecalling

What namecalling? I did not call him names, I did state that he was engaging in gaslighting by misrepresenting statements, and he later admitted he was, but not willingly so, but only out of carelessness.

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25 minutes ago, Jeff said:

 

And that's a lie too, Gab has been around for years, and is an actual free speech platform, Andrew Torba is a legitimate Christian free speech believer, some might say fanatic.  The problem with "free speech" is that when shitlibs use the term, they mean child pron, and all manner of society destroying degeneracy, they don't actually mean "free speech."

Parler is a likely gatekeeping attempt, don't you wonder why there's suddenly a new thing that the shitlibs are talking about and has money and market penetration, out of nowhere?  S/F....Ken M  

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