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14 minutes ago, glenn239 said:

How is an audit that increases Biden's lead a 'sham' audit?  Wouldn't a 'sham' audit have found Trump won Arizona?  Second question - do you understand what you're typing as you type it, or is your Trump hysteria so profound that your fingers just kind of go freelance every time you think Orange?

Because it was suppose to have tRump winning.😀

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13 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

No, fair point, he was exceptionally competent at what he did, right till the end, so far as homocidal tyrants go.

When Brezhnev became General secretary, he to a very large extent shared power with Kosygin initially. But he gradually trimmed his wings so his was the only powerbase that really mattered. I do agree though, for the last 7 or so years he became increasingly dependent on others. There was no complete return to a single powerbase after Khrushchev. After 1962, who the hell wanted to go there again? :D

It does beg the question whom who were the ones making the decision to go on nuclear alert in 1983. It seems difficult to believe that originated purely from Andropov, and Ogarkov I would have thought would have known better.

Military decisions were taken by the defense council and the general staff

https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/notes/2009/N2567.pdf

 

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  So when they had the collegial leadership, presumably they were highly placed in the Party? How was the leadership chosen? 
 

  I’m also trying to understand who’s making decisions in the US? Who makes up the US Politiburo?  I’m assuming if Biden’s aides are shouting down his responses to questions he didn’t make the decision for them to do that. 
 

  When President Wilson had a stroke allegedly his wife helped run the country. 

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5 hours ago, sunday said:

The Arizona audit results have been presented.

By the absence of post by some ignored users, I understand they are not happy with those results.

Could be because of this:
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55 minutes ago, sunday said:

Could be because of this:
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Or most likely because of this: https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/gop-audit-review-finds-no-proof-arizona-election-stolen-from-trump

But I give them an 11 on imagination about how to run an audit:

"The lead contractor was an obscure company, Cyber Ninjas, whose chief executive has promoted conspiracy theories about orchestrated fraud in the election.

The audit was marked by practices that critics described as ranging from inappropriate to bizarre, including counters marking ballots with blue ink, which can alter how they are read by machines, and workers checking for traces of bamboo fibers based on a conspiracy theory that forged ballots may have been shipped in from Asia."

which, to be fair, is what needs to be done.

Speaking about silence, you have forgotten to mention this. An oversight, surely.

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51 minutes ago, Markus Becker said:

Did they have to publish this on a telegram channel or do they (still) have a website? 

It is difficult to find. I found this, but you will need a VPN to download the pdf:

https://www.azfamily.com/full-presentation-shiva-ayyadurais-echomail-report/pdf_04560bf4-1d7c-11ec-98ac-bf7ec60f4396.html

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22 hours ago, MiloMorai said:

Because it was suppose to have tRump winning.😀

Again, are you confused?  A "sham" audit that is "supposed" to have Trump win will deliver a result that Trump won.  So, obviously, it was not a "sham" audit.  It was a real audit done with professional ethics and until you understand that instinctively then you are on Team Problem and not Team Solution.

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Handy overview

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The Maricopa County forensic audit results have been leaked, and if the draft documents are correct, they already show over 54,000 fraudulent, faked and otherwise invalid ballots — more than five times the margin of “victory” for Joe Biden. (See the draft table below.)

And this is from just one county alone: Maricopa.

If the same holds true across other counties in Arizona, the fraud vastly exceeds 100,000 ballots. (Pima, Pinal, Cochise, etc., haven’t even been audited yet.)

 

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3 hours ago, glenn239 said:

Again, are you confused?  A "sham" audit that is "supposed" to have Trump win will deliver a result that Trump won.  So, obviously, it was not a "sham" audit.  It was a real audit done with professional ethics and until you understand that instinctively then you are on Team Problem and not Team Solution.

professional????😁😁😁

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Not a Reichstag Fire, no sirree...

More fun from the Arizona Audit (an audit, not a recount)

https://10ztalk.com/2021/09/25/az-audit-finds-proof-of-pre-meditated-fraud-multiple-ballots-had-verified-and-approved-stamp-pre-printed-behind-signature-box/

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15 hours ago, sunday said:

The Arizona audit results have been presented.

By the absence of post by some ignored users, I understand they are not happy with those results.

So... an audit which reaffirmed Biden won, gave him more votes, had the R AZ Senate leader stating it validated the election, and where the R AZ AG is sitting on the recommendations to investigate the 'irregularities' likely because they're such a joke even places like r/conservative are poking holes in them... you think that audit supports the BS you've been peddling for months?

Pro life tip for you, sunday... the tinfoil hat is supposed to go on your head and not wrapped around your neck.  Also, you have the bloody thing too tight... it's been cutting off blood flow to your brain for quite a while now.  🙄

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Comment on the Arizona audit, by a lawyer, journalist, and writer

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After long last, the Maricopa County Ballot Audit results were reported to the Arizona senate. As expected, the number of phantom votes, duplicate ballots, ballots with missing signatures, or ballots without proper chain of custody far exceeds the margin of victory for the purported victor of the ballot count.

Those alleging voter fraud have been entirely vindicated. You will not hear this from any mainstream media outlet, nor will normal search engines find this news. The unwary will never hear of it.

For the record, a recount counts the number of ballots that came. An audit discovers whence they came.

If your candidate receives a number of mail-in ballots from empty lots, or from out of state, the count of ballots does not change, but the audit shows how many unlawful ballots have been included in that count.

If the unlawful ballots exceeds the margin of victory, the election cannot be certified in good faith.

In this case, the audit found:

3,432 more ballots cast than voters listed as having cast a ballot.

277 Precincts show more ballots cast than people who showed up to vote (VMSS) for a total of 1,551 excess votes.

9,041 more mail-in ballots returned than they were mailed out.

In sum, the fraudulent ballots alone total 50,252, whereas Biden’s margin was 10,457, roughly one fifth that total.

For those of you puzzled by large numbers, let me use a simple example:

Imagine you had a vote for class president with one hundred students voting, and every student writes his vote on a slip of yellow paper provided by the teacher. Imagine the result was 56 to 54, with the challenger winning by 2 votes.

Some are puzzled that more votes were in the box than voters: but any who raises a hand to ask a question is berated and browbeaten, slandered, insulted, and silenced.

Upon audit, however, it was found that five times that margin, or ten ballots, were not written on yellow paper, but were written on the back of candy wrappers all in the handwriting of Stu Larpstonker, the class clown, and no one remembers who put the candywrappers in the box.

In the case of Maricopa County, as in Larpstonker example above, the so-called margin of victory is roughly one fifth of the disqualified and unlawful ballots that were wrongfully certified.

(...)



 

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5 hours ago, JWB said:

Good times.

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4 hours ago, Skywalkre said:

So... an audit which reaffirmed Biden won, gave him more votes, had the R AZ Senate leader stating it validated the election, and where the R AZ AG is sitting on the recommendations to investigate the 'irregularities' likely because they're such a joke even places like r/conservative are poking holes in them... you think that audit supports the BS you've been peddling for months?

 

Just going to ignore that almost 50,000 votes are of questionable legitimacy?  If the ballot box was stuffed with illegitimate ballots, it would stand to reason that all vote counts would be similar since each count would also include the fraudulent ballots.  The margin of victory was a bit over 10,000 votes for Biden, the number of questionable ballots was more than 4 times that margin.  But hey, good parroting of the Leftist Propaganda talking points on your part.

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1 minute ago, DKTanker said:

Just going to ignore that almost 50,000 votes are of questionable legitimacy? 

Except, they're likely not. 

Case in point as highlighted over in r/conservative (which, if you're not aware, is a rabidly pro-Trump subreddit).  The auditors claim like half those ballots deal with discrepancies around mailing address.  Well, as pointed out, those issues likely involve many service members and college students using mail in ballots and recent changes of address.  Luke AFB is in Maricopa country... and ASU is one of the largest universities in the country. 

In short, if one spends an oz of effort to investigate some of these 'issues' it soon becomes apparent they're likely not issues at all.

As I already mentioned... try putting in a quarter of the effort to understand something pretending the folks have an R behind their name or Trump as their last name.  You'll likely discover there's a reasonable explanation after all.

 

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