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I've noticed an 'incident' on the Border with bad visuals between ICE/Border Patrol and Haitian refugees.
If I didn't know any better, I'd say somebody's trying to do the border patrol, what the BLM/Floyd protests ended up doing to the various Blue City Police Departments....

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5 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Yeah, thats Boris Johnson. Sorry about that, we try to keep him locked away in the Tower in an iron mask so he doesnt scare small children, but he keeps sneaking out. :)

 

I don't think that was what was being referred to.  It was the raucous cackling from the gaggle of WH birds to drown out the response from VOTUS (Vegetable of the United States).

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I know, its a misguided attempt at humour on my part. :)

There was some complaint about the only questions being asked were from UK journalists, which led to complaints by the American Journalists present as to why only Brits were allowed to ask questions. Which of course mightbe said that only intelligent Journalists were allowed to ask questions, but at that point its still no better than what Trump was previously accused of.

You're right though, they are bodyguarding his answers.

 

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2 hours ago, DKTanker said:

I don't think that was what was being referred to.  It was the raucous cackling from the gaggle of WH birds to drown out the response from VOTUS (Vegetable of the United States).

 

I thought they had a finger on the video feed already.

(and I wish they had cut Trump's video feed many times 😅)

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3 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Apparently it was all Bojo's fault they didnt have time to coach Biden on his answers. Its clearly is never a good day when Redcoats turn up at the White House.

Psaki: Boris Johnson 'called on press corps without alerting us' (msn.com)

 

An elected leader talking directly to the press without filtering/interpretation by the WH press secretary?

You people really are just apes in bowler hats.

 

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5 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Apparently it was all Bojo's fault they didnt have time to coach Biden on his answers. Its clearly is never a good day when Redcoats turn up at the White House.

Psaki: Boris Johnson 'called on press corps without alerting us' (msn.com)

 

Said by Ginger Snap with all due sincerity.  She gave a "plausible" answer.  But of course everyone knows that Biden is literally incapable of answering questions extemporaneously, that part of his brain is irreparably damaged by disease.  So why the press corps perpetuates the charade that Biden is capable of giving meaningful answers, I don't know.  It's analogous to the press corps 80 years ago asking the president if he could stand up for them, show them how spry he really was.   

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15 minutes ago, DKTanker said:

 But of course everyone knows that Biden is literally incapable of answering questions extemporaneously, that part of his brain is irreparably damaged by disease.  So why the press corps perpetuates the charade that Biden is capable of giving meaningful answers, I don't know. 

I wonder if the possibility exists that deep, down, inside they want to witness a complete and total meltdown.

if (when?) it happens it will certainly be a (the?) top news story.

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1 hour ago, LT Ducky said:

I wonder if the possibility exists that deep, down, inside they want to witness a complete and total meltdown.

...and then what, "Oh no! Completely shocking turn of events!" or "We've always been at war with Eurasia, rumors of Biden's illness have been circulating for months"?

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59 minutes ago, Ssnake said:

...and then what, "Oh no! Completely shocking turn of events!" or "We've always been at war with Eurasia, rumors of Biden's illness have been circulating for months"?

It's going to be the latter and they will cheerfully quote the "fringe" publications they crapped on who have been reporting it all along.  Probably with a dash of "it suddenly got so much worse just now when he wet himself" added in to provide additional cover.

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  Leaders of the Soviet Union frequently were elderly enough to die after only a short time in power. How did the Soviets deal with such elderly leaders? Of course, they didn’t have to give press conferences if they didn’t want to, but how did they govern the SU? 

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1 hour ago, Detonable said:

  Leaders of the Soviet Union frequently were elderly enough to die after only a short time in power. How did the Soviets deal with such elderly leaders? Of course, they didn’t have to give press conferences if they didn’t want to, but how did they govern the SU? 

Well as far as Brezhnev they gave him a long speech to read, then he sat down whilst they gave him a weeks long applause. There was no problem of asking questions in the Soviet Union strangely enough, so no issues there....

As far as decision making, there is a good case for saying Brezhnev's declining lucidity played a role in the invasion of Afghanistan. Or we assume it did, because everyone thoughtfully died without leaving complete records.  It seems that everyone liked to give him prior decisions they had come to so he didnt have to think about things too much.  Nobody liked to bother him too much at the end.

Andropov was a bit more animated, he could formulate his own answers, and you can read some of the haranges against Reagan in the early 1980's. He did answer questions from Americans whom came to answer, and there was no apparent mental decline. OTOH, he did put 16th and 4th Tactical airforces on full nuclear alert to a NATO exercise, so we probably shouldnt get carried away and say his health problems didnt make him a little excitable. Paranoia was a Soviet disease, and poor health just seemed to make things worse.

Chernenko wasnt really long enough alive to form any coherent ideas about how he was handling things. Most of the others seem to have been fairly lucid to the end. Well, if you can accuse Stalin of lucidity, he had no problem making decisions or appearing in public till the end.

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7 hours ago, Ssnake said:

...and then what, "Oh no! Completely shocking turn of events!" or "We've always been at war with Eurasia, rumors of Biden's illness have been circulating for months"?

Duh, it will obviously be both.  And within the same 24-hour cycle.

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3 hours ago, Detonable said:

Leaders of the Soviet Union frequently were elderly enough to die after only a short time in power. How did the Soviets deal with such elderly leaders? Of course, they didn’t have to give press conferences if they didn’t want to, but how did they govern the SU? 

I'm not at all sure what you're trying to get at. If you're saying that gerontocracies do just fine...?

 

a. You remember, that the Soviet Union fell apart? My conclusion: They did not govern it very well.

b. Brezhnev was such an elderly leader, and stayed in power from 1964 when he was not even sixty, until 1982 when he was old. Andropow followed him at age 68, but died soon after. Followed by Tschernenko, who was old indeed when he came into office, and died soon after. His successor was Gorbatchev, age 54, who hasn't died yet.

Even the premise that the Soviet Union was a gerontocracy is standing on shaky grounds except for the 1980s when much of the apparatus was dominated by the WW2 soldier generation.

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Most of the time they were middle age when they got in the Job. Stalin would seem to have have been 46 when he became General Secretary.  Khrushchev was 59, Brezhnev was 58.

Of course the problem, then as now, was removing them from the job when they were clearly past it. Which is not unheard of in the Western world either if we are completely honest. And elevating them to the titular position was more about ensuring power and influence for their numerous backers, than any real expectation their experience would count for anything. This was certainly the cause of Brezhnevs political longevity. Of course we have never seen anything similar with the nomination of any recent Western candidates. :)

 

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1 hour ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

Most of the time they were middle age when they got in the Job. Stalin would seem to have have been 46 when he became General Secretary.  Khrushchev was 59, Brezhnev was 58.

Of course the problem, then as now, was removing them from the job when they were clearly past it. Which is not unheard of in the Western world either if we are completely honest. And elevating them to the titular position was more about ensuring power and influence for their numerous backers, than any real expectation their experience would count for anything. This was certainly the cause of Brezhnevs political longevity. Of course we have never seen anything similar with the nomination of any recent Western candidates. :)

 

No one ever suggested that Stalin had a problem governing the USSR until he died all of the sudden. After Khruschev, the USSR had a colegial leadership, so an old sod would just be worked around.

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1 hour ago, MiloMorai said:

Biden's lead in Arizona increases. Yup, that is what the sham audit found.

How is an audit that increases Biden's lead a 'sham' audit?  Wouldn't a 'sham' audit have found Trump won Arizona?  Second question - do you understand what you're typing as you type it, or is your Trump hysteria so profound that your fingers just kind of go freelance every time you think Orange?

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3 hours ago, RETAC21 said:

No one ever suggested that Stalin had a problem governing the USSR until he died all of the sudden. After Khruschev, the USSR had a colegial leadership, so an old sod would just be worked around.

No, fair point, he was exceptionally competent at what he did, right till the end, so far as homocidal tyrants go.

When Brezhnev became General secretary, he to a very large extent shared power with Kosygin initially. But he gradually trimmed his wings so his was the only powerbase that really mattered. I do agree though, for the last 7 or so years he became increasingly dependent on others. There was no complete return to a single powerbase after Khrushchev. After 1962, who the hell wanted to go there again? :D

It does beg the question whom who were the ones making the decision to go on nuclear alert in 1983. It seems difficult to believe that originated purely from Andropov, and Ogarkov I would have thought would have known better.

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10 minutes ago, glenn239 said:

How is an audit that increases Biden's lead a 'sham' audit?  Wouldn't a 'sham' audit have found Trump won Arizona?  Second question - do you understand what you're typing as you type it, or is your Trump hysteria so profound that your fingers just kind of go freelance every time you think Orange?

Milo I believe is taking the piss Glenn. :D

 

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