Because Biden

[sunday]

1 minute ago, RETAC21 said:

https://cdn.cms-twdigitalassets.com/content/dam/legal-twitter/site-assets/tos-oct-14th-2020/Twitter_User_Agreement_ES.pdf

"Nos reservamos el derecho a retirar Contenido que incumpla el Acuerdo de usuario"

Is it not clear?

Puigdemont organized a real putsch, and he got to keep his twitter account. And you do not see anything untowards there?

[rmgill]

So tweets about how sterilized Uiger women are freed from the burdens of child birth are ok? 

[RETAC21]

1 minute ago, sunday said:

Puigdemont organized a real putsch, and he got to keep his twitter account. And you do not see anything untowards there?

Yes, but if Twitter doesn't, then it's up to them as a private company. Same as with the Ayatollahs, were they are being used as mouthpiece for a dictatorship that openly spouses genocide - which goes against their conditions, but again, it's their choice, and yours is to use it or ignore it, as a free customer. 

[sunday]

Just now, RETAC21 said:

Yes, but if Twitter doesn't, then it's up to them as a private company. Same as with the Ayatollahs, were they are being used as mouthpiece for a dictatorship that openly spouses genocide - which goes against their conditions, but again, it's their choice, and yours is to use it or ignore it, as a free customer. 

Now you will say that the suing of that Christian bakery by some alternative lifestyle couple was wrong, will not you?

[RETAC21]

Just now, sunday said:

Now you will say that the suing of that Christian bakery by some alternative lifestyle couple was wrong, will not you?

No, so stop putting words into my mouth. And it pays to re-read on the case;

"The case dealt with Masterpiece Cakeshop, a bakery in Lakewood, Colorado, which refused to provide a wedding cake to a gay couple based on the owner's religious beliefs. The Colorado Civil Rights Commission, evaluating the case under the state's anti-discrimination law, the Colorado Anti-Discrimination Act, found that the bakery had discriminated against the couple and issued specific orders for the bakery. Following appeals within the state that affirmed the Commission's decision, the bakery took the case to the U.S. Supreme Court.

In a 7–2 decision, the Court ruled on narrow grounds that the Commission did not employ religious neutrality, violating Masterpiece owner Jack Phillips' rights to free exercise, and reversed the Commission's decision. The Court did not rule on the broader intersection of anti-discrimination laws, free exercise of religion, and freedom of speech, due to the complications of the Commission's lack of religious neutrality."

It's called rule of law, remember?

[sunday]

2 minutes ago, RETAC21 said:

No, so stop putting words into my mouth. And it pays to re-read on the case;

"The case dealt with Masterpiece Cakeshop, a bakery in Lakewood, Colorado, which refused to provide a wedding cake to a gay couple based on the owner's religious beliefs. The Colorado Civil Rights Commission, evaluating the case under the state's anti-discrimination law, the Colorado Anti-Discrimination Act, found that the bakery had discriminated against the couple and issued specific orders for the bakery. Following appeals within the state that affirmed the Commission's decision, the bakery took the case to the U.S. Supreme Court.

In a 7–2 decision, the Court ruled on narrow grounds that the Commission did not employ religious neutrality, violating Masterpiece owner Jack Phillips' rights to free exercise, and reversed the Commission's decision. The Court did not rule on the broader intersection of anti-discrimination laws, free exercise of religion, and freedom of speech, due to the complications of the Commission's lack of religious neutrality."

It's called rule of law, remember?

Have you heard that notion about slow justice being no justice at all?

Their livelihood was destroyed in the six years that were needed since the initial legal action until the final decision of the Supreme Court. Were the lower courts more compliant with rule of law that would not have been so.

And still Sotomayor and Ginsburg supported the initial decision of the lower courts.

[rmgill]

It comes down to political class not being one of the protected classes. Not that sexual orientation was added legally. 

However the defacto exchange of leadership between big tech and the DNC makes for a strong connection that this is privatized government intrusion into the 1st amendment sphere. At some point, 42 U.S. Code § 1985 may be asserted. That'll be federal time. 

[RETAC21]

13 minutes ago, sunday said:

Have you heard that notion about slow justice being no justice at all?

Their livelihood was destroyed in the six years that were needed since the initial legal action until the final decision of the Supreme Court. Were the lower courts more compliant with rule of law that would not have been so.

And still Sotomayor and Ginsburg supported the initial decision of the lower courts.

It was? hardly, they are still going: https://masterpiececakes.com/

Edited January 11, 2021 by RETAC21

[sunday]

Well, they lost 40% of the business volume, and there was another case whose current status I do not know.

Wonder what they are going to do in night clubs and the like if the owners need to go to court in order to being allowed to refuse entry to people they think do not belong in their premises.

[nitflegal]

A serious question with Biden's recent announcement that help for small businesses.

Biden will outline "his commitment to ensuring direct relief reaches the small businesses that need help the most, with a focus on Black, Hispanic, Asian and Native American small business owners who need additional resources to reopen and rebuild,"

Do the Democrats want a race war?  I'm serious.  80% of all small businesses are owned by white people.  60% of small businesses are expected to never re-open.  The stress and anger on the part of all small businesses is at appallingly high levels.  I had five friends with small businesses when the pandemic started; 3 white, 1 black, 1 asian. I say had because all of them folded their businesses this year and they will not be coming back.  So we have a pressure cooker of anger and resentment towards the government from small business owners who have watched box stores flourish while they were closed.

So the Biden administration wants to specifically create a sense of white identity and then explicitly tell them that the government will deprioritize their needs?  Their supposed great fear is white identity politics and the toxicity that will come off of this.  So their answer is to explicitly confirm every extremist message from every neo-nazi jackass?  If you wanted to actively create a wide-spread white activist movement the left has been doing just that for the last year.  What the hell is their endgame?  

 

[sunday]

To divide the society in order to better rule it.

Anyone remember the kulaks?

[RETAC21]

14 minutes ago, nitflegal said:

A serious question with Biden's recent announcement that help for small businesses.

Biden will outline "his commitment to ensuring direct relief reaches the small businesses that need help the most, with a focus on Black, Hispanic, Asian and Native American small business owners who need additional resources to reopen and rebuild,"

Do the Democrats want a race war?  I'm serious.  80% of all small businesses are owned by white people.  60% of small businesses are expected to never re-open.  The stress and anger on the part of all small businesses is at appallingly high levels.  I had five friends with small businesses when the pandemic started; 3 white, 1 black, 1 asian. I say had because all of them folded their businesses this year and they will not be coming back.  So we have a pressure cooker of anger and resentment towards the government from small business owners who have watched box stores flourish while they were closed.

So the Biden administration wants to specifically create a sense of white identity and then explicitly tell them that the government will deprioritize their needs?  Their supposed great fear is white identity politics and the toxicity that will come off of this.  So their answer is to explicitly confirm every extremist message from every neo-nazi jackass?  If you wanted to actively create a wide-spread white activist movement the left has been doing just that for the last year.  What the hell is their endgame?  

 

I don't think they got that far in their thinking, they are just knee-jerking, it's better to see what the actual measures are and how they fit in the overall picture, like, giving a aid paycheck but then raising taxes across the board.

[RETAC21]

3 hours ago, sunday said:

Well, they lost 40% of the business volume, and there was another case whose current status I do not know.

Wonder what they are going to do in night clubs and the like if the owners need to go to court in order to being allowed to refuse entry to people they think do not belong in their premises.

So customers are not free to choose if they don't agree with the seller's politics? then why did you left Facebook?

This business was hamfisted by State government and the SC turned that around, but the initial refusal, and what created the whole issue, was a free choice by the business owner - that has consequences too, as it seems 40% of its customer base wasn't pleased with that.

[sunday]

16 minutes ago, RETAC21 said:

So customers are not free to choose if they don't agree with the seller's politics? then why did you left Facebook?

This business was hamfisted by State government and the SC turned that around, but the initial refusal, and what created the whole issue, was a free choice by the business owner - that has consequences too, as it seems 40% of its customer base wasn't pleased with that.

When buying a cake is to take a political stance, customers are not perfectly free.

Could you link the post of mine where I did announce to the forum that I left Facebook? I do not recall making any announcement here, but I could be wrong.

[nitflegal]

11 minutes ago, sunday said:

When buying a cake is to take a political stance, customers are not perfectly free.

Could you link the post of mine where I did announce to the forum that I left Facebook? I do not recall making any announcement here, but I could be wrong.

Am I the only one frustrated by the ignorance of scale effects?  Republicans have this all or nothing focus on the altar of business that is just assinine.  The effects on the community of a baker who won't do a cake is pretty minimal so long as there is another baker happy to take the work.  The impact on the community and nation of similar behavior of a Facebook or Twitter that affects hundreds of millions of people is not even comparable.  Since the Democratic House committee determined that these companies are actual monopolies back in the summer it's simply not comparable.  

[glenn239]

9 hours ago, lucklucky said:

Don't expect Twitter to give a warning to Biden .

Presidents can issue wide ranging executive orders based on national security.  But Trump's done anyways, so there's no point ordering Twitter restore his account now.

[RETAC21]

1 minute ago, nitflegal said:

Am I the only one frustrated by the ignorance of scale effects?  Republicans have this all or nothing focus on the altar of business that is just assinine.  The effects on the community of a baker who won't do a cake is pretty minimal so long as there is another baker happy to take the work.  The impact on the community and nation of similar behavior of a Facebook or Twitter that affects hundreds of millions of people is not even comparable.  Since the Democratic House committee determined that these companies are actual monopolies back in the summer it's simply not comparable.  

If they are monopolies, then they are breaching anti-trust legislation, so no, they are not comparable, but when you start curtailing the freedom of the people to choose (from the irrelevant on) you are on a dangerous sliding scale.

A baker can chose not to bake a cake that offends his sensibilities, some his customers may feel offended by his stance and choose not to go to his shop. Now, when guvmint uses his powers to force the baker to bake or the customer to go buy to that bakery, then that is completely different, isn't it?

[sunday]

5 minutes ago, nitflegal said:

Am I the only one frustrated by the ignorance of scale effects? 

No. But apparently it was not enough to show how that POS former Catalan regional president, Puigdemont, got to keel his years-old twitter account even after engaging during 2017 in Jefferson Davies-like behavior, having a sizable part of his cabinet jailed, and he escaping jail only because peculiar Belgian judges.

[RETAC21]

27 minutes ago, sunday said:

When buying a cake is to take a political stance, customers are not perfectly free.

Could you link the post of mine where I did announce to the forum that I left Facebook? I do not recall making any announcement here, but I could be wrong.

When customers are not entirely free because of a political stance, this is what you get:

Re Facebook, you announced it there, didn't you? 

[sunday]

2 minutes ago, RETAC21 said:

Re Facebook, you announced it there, didn't you? 

I do not think so, and if you got information by other means that reading it here, you may have violated a ROE by writing here the aforementioned information.

Edited January 11, 2021 by sunday

[RETAC21]

Just now, sunday said:

I do not think so, and if you got that information by other means that reading it here, you may have violated a ROE by stating it here.

Fine, go to Moderator with your complain.

[Jeff]

4 hours ago, nitflegal said:

A serious question with Biden's recent announcement that help for small businesses.

Biden will outline "his commitment to ensuring direct relief reaches the small businesses that need help the most, with a focus on Black, Hispanic, Asian and Native American small business owners who need additional resources to reopen and rebuild,"

Do the Democrats want a race war?  I'm serious.  80% of all small businesses are owned by white people.  60% of small businesses are expected to never re-open.  The stress and anger on the part of all small businesses is at appallingly high levels.  I had five friends with small businesses when the pandemic started; 3 white, 1 black, 1 asian. I say had because all of them folded their businesses this year and they will not be coming back.  So we have a pressure cooker of anger and resentment towards the government from small business owners who have watched box stores flourish while they were closed.

So the Biden administration wants to specifically create a sense of white identity and then explicitly tell them that the government will deprioritize their needs?  Their supposed great fear is white identity politics and the toxicity that will come off of this.  So their answer is to explicitly confirm every extremist message from every neo-nazi jackass?  If you wanted to actively create a wide-spread white activist movement the left has been doing just that for the last year.  What the hell is their endgame?  

 

"Mr. Unity"

You will unify as they see fit or you will be relegated to the ghettos of society.

[lucklucky]

12 hours ago, nitflegal said:

A serious question with Biden's recent announcement that help for small businesses.

Biden will outline "his commitment to ensuring direct relief reaches the small businesses that need help the most, with a focus on Black, Hispanic, Asian and Native American small business owners who need additional resources to reopen and rebuild,"

Do the Democrats want a race war?  I'm serious.  80% of all small businesses are owned by white people.  60% of small businesses are expected to never re-open.  The stress and anger on the part of all small businesses is at appallingly high levels.  I had five friends with small businesses when the pandemic started; 3 white, 1 black, 1 asian. I say had because all of them folded their businesses this year and they will not be coming back.  So we have a pressure cooker of anger and resentment towards the government from small business owners who have watched box stores flourish while they were closed.

So the Biden administration wants to specifically create a sense of white identity and then explicitly tell them that the government will deprioritize their needs?  Their supposed great fear is white identity politics and the toxicity that will come off of this.  So their answer is to explicitly confirm every extremist message from every neo-nazi jackass?  If you wanted to actively create a wide-spread white activist movement the left has been doing just that for the last year.  What the hell is their endgame?  

 

I already posted it.

Democrats are now Marxists. So use racism, sexism as a class system too exploit as a way to get power and punish the groups they find resisting their power.

But i don't think it will be a race war, but a war against government.

[lucklucky]

Political Violence in Biden Marxist America

Antifa's Determined to Prevent a Book About Their Tactics From Being Published

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2021/01/11/watch-antifa-demands-a-local-bookstore-stop-selling-andy-ngos-book-about-antifas-nasty-tactics-n2582974

 

[rmgill]

Andy Ngo will be next for deplatforming.