Because Biden

[Skywalkre]

For what?

A few seconds of searching will turn up articles explaining what happened here... and there's nothing fishy about it.  That $20 billion was part of a larger $27 billion package passed by Congress as part of the Inflation Reduction Act for environmental work.  These funds being awarded was apparently announced last April and given out before a Sep deadline.

A DoJ lawyer asked to go after this apparently resigned because there was nothing here.

Edited February 20, 2025 by Skywalkre

[Tim Sielbeck]

45 minutes ago, Skywalkre said:

A DoJ lawyer asked to go after this apparently resigned because there was nothing here.

You don't resign over nothing.

[Skywalkre]

12 minutes ago, Tim Sielbeck said:

You don't resign over nothing.

Correct.  There have been multiple DoJ resignations because they didn't want to carry out orders that they felt were immoral, unehtical, illegal, etc.  This appears to be another one of those.  If there's nothing there yet your bosses want you to prosecute, the only option you have is to resign.

Fucking gold that so many of you lamented the supposed 'lawfare' of the Biden admin and here when your folks are actually engaging in it you can't fucking see it for what it is.

Edited February 20, 2025 by Skywalkre

[glenn239]

It's maybe like a duel where the Democrat wheeled and shot first, missed, and is now whining about stopping the duel now that their opponent is about to take their shot, aiming nice and slow.  

 

 

[rmgill]

4 hours ago, Skywalkre said:

Correct.  There have been multiple DoJ resignations because they didn't want to carry out orders that they felt were immoral, unehtical, illegal, etc.  This appears to be another one of those.  If there's nothing there yet your bosses want you to prosecute, the only option you have is to resign.

Fucking gold that so many of you lamented the supposed 'lawfare' of the Biden admin and here when your folks are actually engaging in it you can't fucking see it for what it is.

I have repeatedly noted problems in the DOJ. You've ignored them. 

I don't think you really care about legal rights and powers, you're just a partisan leftist, democrat. 

At this point, fine. Lawfare it is. Good and hard. You and the rest of the democrats asked for it. 

[Mr King]

17 minutes ago, rmgill said:

I have repeatedly noted problems in the DOJ. You've ignored them. 

I don't think you really care about legal rights and powers, you're just a partisan leftist, democrat. 

At this point, fine. Lawfare it is. Good and hard. You and the rest of the democrats asked for it. 

He is a conservative, remember?

[glenn239]

9 hours ago, Mr King said:

He is a conservative, remember?

Yeah, and Stuart is pro-American....:^)

[Ivanhoe]

15 hours ago, Mr King said:

He is a conservative, remember?

Dude, you need to warn us before you post stuff like that. I had food in my mouth when I hit the above sentence. Past tense, "had."

[Murph]

Adam Schiff's pardon ONLY, ONLY covers Jan 6th material, not his other crimes.  He better be looking for a good criminal defense attorney.  

[Murph]

20 hours ago, Tim Sielbeck said:

You don't resign over nothing.

So very true.

[Murph]

15 hours ago, rmgill said:

I have repeatedly noted problems in the DOJ. You've ignored them. 

I don't think you really care about legal rights and powers, you're just a partisan leftist, democrat. 

At this point, fine. Lawfare it is. Good and hard. You and the rest of the democrats asked for it. 

And it is killing him, that they took their shot at the king, and now the shots are coming back their way, and they cannot stand it.

[rmgill]

US Army is misappropriating funds for feeding troops. 
 

 

[Ivanhoe]

Dinner at Fort Carson;

 

[Ivanhoe]

For those unfamiliar with Fort Hood/Cavazos, the main cantonment is about 1x2 miles, North Fort is roughly 4-5 miles from the north edge of main cantonment, and West Fort is about 3 miles south of main cantonment.

AFAIK, Cavazos mostly fixed the DFAC problem*, but other posts have not.

https://nypost.com/2025/02/15/us-news/army-redirecting-millions-collected-from-soldier-bas-pay-meant-for-food-services-elsewhere-report/

 

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Millions of dollars collected by the United States Army for a food program were spent elsewhere — with less than half of the funds actually finding their way to soldiers’ plates, according to a report.

An investigative report from Military.com found that of the $225 million snatched up from junior enlisted soldiers as part of the Basic Allowance for Subsistence program, just $74 million went towards food.

“It’s just returned to the big pool of army funds, and it’s used someplace else,” an official told the outlet.

The money is collected in what amounts to a tax on troops — taken from their BAS payment of $460 per month and automatically deducted from paychecks of service members who live in barracks. The program is intended to help enlisted men and women to cover food costs.

But records from the 11 largest military bases show in 2024, $151 million of the $225 million garnered from soldiers was not spent on food, according to Military.com.

 

 

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In one egregious example, Fort Stewart, Georgia collected $17 million from soldiers — but spent just $2.1 million of it on grub. That means 87% of food funds were redirected for other projects, according to the report.

 

* Partly because elements of 1CD that were vacationing at Irwin are returning to post.

[Sinistar]

go on food stamps - from the senior enlisted member of the army- which really means it comes from his boss

but that is from someone who earns $100k himself telling his enlisted soldiers where to get off

 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/pentagon-tells-struggling-army-soldiers-families-to-apply-for-food-stamps

 

it is not surprising anymore once you accept what it all does

with rank comes privileges and if you are going to have that kind of thing it is the low hanging fruit which bears the brunt

once you get to that level and survive the ranks and the promotion boards and so on you are a politician

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Stargrunt6]

No wonder they flunk audits...

 

[DKTanker]

I'm not really following what exactly is going on, evidently the rules for who is authorized BAS has changed significantly since I retired. 

Edit to add.  Back in the day (going back 30-40 years) when we went to the field and BAS was suspended, there was always a push to get those soldiers who had forfeited their BAS because they were expected to eat at the dining facility, to sign for chow.  That way the S-4 would have a headcount off which he would be reimbursed for food.  If the soldiers weren't signing in or choosing to eat their own pogey bait instead of the Chilimac being served, then the S4 wouldn't have the funds for the next day or week or whatever. 

In any case, no unit pays BAS to the soldiers, that comes from the general operating fund of the military.  So when BAS is suspended the unit doesn't receive that money, the money is just never paid out by the Army.  As I said, I'm not understanding exactly what's going on, perhaps because exactly what's going on isn't being totally outlined.

Edited February 23, 2025 by DKTanker

[DKTanker]

40 minutes ago, Sinistar said:

go on food stamps - from the senior enlisted member of the army- which really means it comes from his boss

but that is from someone who earns $100k himself telling his enlisted soldiers where to get off

 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/pentagon-tells-struggling-army-soldiers-families-to-apply-for-food-stamps

 

it is not surprising anymore once you accept what it all does

with rank comes privileges and if you are going to have that kind of thing it is the low hanging fruit which bears the brunt

once you get to that level and survive the ranks and the promotion boards and so on you are a politician

Junior enlisted with dependents were quite often eligible for, and receiving, food stamps going back at least 45 years.

[rmgill]

The fact that BAS is collected and the money is not used is troubling. 

Edited February 23, 2025 by rmgill

[Sinistar]

11 minutes ago, DKTanker said:

Junior enlisted with dependents were quite often eligible for, and receiving, food stamps going back at least 45 years.

 

generally speaking the way junior enlisted are viewed is that many if not most of them are not going to re-enlist and they are not a long term investment anyway. say a 3 year contract in a support MOS so really there is a calculus that they are not going to be treated too well- that is a feature and not a bug

so they are always viewed as cheap labor to use pick weeds on base and things like that

 

but the corruption on the other hand where money is taken from their pay specifically for food allotments where that disappears and then told to go on food stamps is corruption

that creates a culture of corruption and it is fleecing the tax payer as well

 

 

 

[DKTanker]

6 minutes ago, rmgill said:

The fact that BAD is collected and the money is not used is troubling. 

BAS isn't collected by or paid by the unit, it's a separate accounting line entry at the DA level.  The unit does, however, authorize recipients and suspends the authorization as situations dictate. If a BAS recipient, or officer, eats in a mess hall they must pay for their meals.  That money is collected by the unit, what happens to it I don't know, because the S4 is generally operating with notional money, not actual cash.

All of this is how it used to work, so much has changed over the last 25 years, I'm hardly an expert at it.  What I do know is we aren't getting the entire story.  As Bongino would say, we're getting a story, we aren't yet getting the story.
 

[rmgill]

DFACs should be open all days the post has staff at it. And at all hours. 
 

If they can’t do this at major bases, heads need to roll. 

[DKTanker]

23 minutes ago, rmgill said:

DFACs should be open all days the post has staff at it. And at all hours. 

If they can’t do this at major bases, heads need to roll. 

Even when 90% of enlisted members lived in the barracks with a messhall just a two minute walk away, the facilities were not open all days and at all hours.  They were open most days though weekends they would rotate which were open and closed, and they definitely all had specific hours of operation.  When I was stationed at Ft. Hood for two years there was one facility, on all of the post, that remained open overnight so that MPs from 1CD, 2AD, and III Corps could grab some coffee and a sandwich.

[Ivanhoe]

Don't forget the Red Cycle boys and girls at the gates. They always have a Hummer or two parked nearby, so they've got wheels to rotate for DFAC runs.

Amusingly, there are solar-powered Tesla chargers at III Corps HQ. RHIP.

 

[Skywalkre]

On 2/20/2025 at 5:03 PM, glenn239 said:

It's maybe like a duel where the Democrat wheeled and shot first, missed, and is now whining about stopping the duel now that their opponent is about to take their shot, aiming nice and slow. 

Two problems with that analogy.  The first is equating the two actions.  The Fed cases against Trump were not 'lawfare'.  If they were so blatant they would have been tossed out, especially in the FL case where the judge was very much on Trump's side (I love how folks on here are quick to point to supposed D-appointed judges acting in such a way but brush aside when Trump-appointed judges have acted blatantly in support of him).  Instead, what we got from her was a hail mary attempt at tossing the case based on some crazy notion the special prosecutor concept was unconstitutional (sadly we never got to see the appeals court and/or SCOTUS toss out that garbage argument).

The second is that in claiming both are the same you're also stating what Trump and his people are doing now is wrong/immoral/unethical/etc.  Given replies from others in this thread that don't seem to push back but rather embrace that notion... umm... yeah.  That's some real moral high ground y'all got there.  🙄