rmgill Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 1 hour ago, Ivanhoe said: Dang it! Ortega, Noriega, they all look alike. Yes I know' it's an older meme...
rmgill Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 22 minutes ago, R011 said: If it were happening, there would be copious evidence. There would be Western arms that has by supplied to Ukraine showing up everywhere. There isn't. How would one know if arms shipments were being diverted?
R011 Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 1 hour ago, Murph said: No one is auditing it, that would shut down the kickbacks to the Democrats. Leaving aside that the other donors really don't give a shit about American domestic politics, but do care that donated equipment goes where it's supposed to go, I haven't seen anyone from the DNC riding on donated Bradleys or playing with donated 155 mm rounds.
R011 Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 58 minutes ago, rmgill said: How would one know if arms shipments were being diverted? Because the weapons would be showing up elsewhere. You don't think the donors don't note the serial numbers and types of weapons being delivered.
rmgill Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 But that would need someone checking and comparing on both ends. And if it was in their interest to not check or to fudge the data on the 'sold' items that are part of graft, there's lots of ways to screw that up.
Murph Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 35 minutes ago, R011 said: Leaving aside that the other donors really don't give a shit about American domestic politics, but do care that donated equipment goes where it's supposed to go, I haven't seen anyone from the DNC riding on donated Bradleys or playing with donated 155 mm rounds. The money, not the equipment. Money allows them to buy elections, they need the money to destroy this country.
R011 Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 17 minutes ago, rmgill said: But that would need someone checking and comparing on both ends. And if it was in their interest to not check or to fudge the data on the 'sold' items that are part of graft, there's lots of ways to screw that up. But not a lot of ways to hide Javelins and Stingers showing up in criminal or terrorist hands, let alone how to fence artillery ammo, SM missiles, and AFVs.
R011 Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 2 minutes ago, Murph said: The money, not the equipment. Money allows them to buy elections, they need the money to destroy this country. And where's the equipment?
Murph Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 God only knows. That is the issue, no one really knows.
R011 Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 2 minutes ago, Murph said: God only knows. That is the issue, no one really knows. Who says no one really knows? What we laymen here do know is that it goes to Ukraine and stays in Ukraine (and Russia, often not with Russian consent). If it weren't, there's plenty of sources that would be ecstatic to spread it across the internet.
rmgill Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 14 minutes ago, R011 said: But not a lot of ways to hide Javelins and Stingers showing up in criminal or terrorist hands, let alone how to fence artillery ammo, SM missiles, and AFVs. If they go to a rich Arab nation's armory to be held for later then who'd know. It'd be a shipment that just doesn't get unloaded on the far end and keeps on going. The UN was trafficking people for sex trade. Those folks talk and it went on for decades. I'm not saying it's happening, just that if noone's looking then they'll not find it. That's the issue with corruption.
rmgill Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 4 minutes ago, R011 said: Who says no one really knows? What we laymen here do know is that it goes to Ukraine and stays in Ukraine (and Russia, often not with Russian consent). If it weren't, there's plenty of sources that would be ecstatic to spread it across the internet. To this point there's something like 300,000 unattended minor children who came across the border under the auspices of the US CBP. Where are they? Who knows. What are they being used for? Who knows. The suspicions are anything from slave labor, to bought children to prurient and vile to unspeakable and nightmarish.
Ivanhoe Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-41314975.html Quote Mexico wants an urgent investigation into how US military-grade weapons are increasingly being found in the hands of Mexican drug cartels, Mexico’s top diplomat has said. Mexico’s army is finding belt-fed machine guns, rocket launchers and grenades that are not sold for civilian use in the United States. “The (Mexican) defence department has warned the United States about weapons entering Mexico that are for the exclusive use of the US army,” foreign relations secretary Alicia Barcena said on Monday. “It is very urgent that an investigation into this be carried out.” The Mexican army said in June that it had seized 221 fully automatic machine guns, 56 grenade launchers and a dozen rocket launchers from drug cartels since late 2018. Of course, there are numerous paths US arms can take between the Contiguous 48 and the cartels, not the least Iraq. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2024/06/29/mexican-cartels-increased-firepower-us-weapons/74226110007/
DKTanker Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 4 minutes ago, Ivanhoe said: https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-41314975.html Of course, there are numerous paths US arms can take between the Contiguous 48 and the cartels, not the least Iraq. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2024/06/29/mexican-cartels-increased-firepower-us-weapons/74226110007/ I mean damn. Just don't investigate the allegation because if it isn't investigated then it isn't happening.
R011 Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 21 minutes ago, Ivanhoe said: https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-41314975.html Of course, there are numerous paths US arms can take between the Contiguous 48 and the cartels, not the least Iraq. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2024/06/29/mexican-cartels-increased-firepower-us-weapons/74226110007/ The most likely path being FMS to the Mexican Army and stolen or diverted from there.
Ivanhoe Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 I don't think the US is selling Javelins to the Mexican Army.
rmgill Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 Biden doing what he does best... https://x.com/TPostMillennial/status/1864332284146389054
NickM Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 14 hours ago, R011 said: The most likely path being FMS to the Mexican Army and stolen or diverted from there. Corruption in the Mexican "Establishment"...say no more.
R011 Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 (edited) 18 hours ago, Ivanhoe said: I don't think the US is selling Javelins to the Mexican Army. Yeah, those probably came from the 20 thousand odd in US stocks. Diverting a dozen to the cartels should not be an insurmountable problem. Edited December 4, 2024 by R011
rmgill Posted December 4, 2024 Posted December 4, 2024 I have seem rumblings that the cartels have managed to get some gang members in the Military.
Ivanhoe Posted December 5, 2024 Posted December 5, 2024 I have yet to hear of Javelins stolen from a CONUS installation. The big 3 domestic gangs absolutely have members in uniform. The local installation was notorious for it, back in the 1990s.
Mr King Posted December 5, 2024 Posted December 5, 2024 Biden is considering a preemptive blanket pardon for Fauci and others. How interesting.
DKTanker Posted December 5, 2024 Posted December 5, 2024 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Mr King said: Biden is considering a preemptive blanket pardon for Fauci and others. How interesting. Shiff, Cheney, and everybody else with a hint of corruption about them. Back to the Hunter pardon, some legal experts are saying that a pardon does not give one the right to the fruits of their crimes. The IRS can still seek forfeiture payments from Hunter Biden and pursue any and all other leads to corrupt monies of the Biden Crime Family Syndicate. Moreover, a federal employee or service member that is pardoned doesn't necessarily get to receive fruits of retirement benefits. A pardon is a get out jail free card, it is not a "Don't have to pay your debts" card. In any case, if one needs evidence that the Democrats are corrupt to the bone, this overture by the Biden administration is about as good as it currently gets. Edited December 5, 2024 by DKTanker
glenn239 Posted December 5, 2024 Posted December 5, 2024 13 hours ago, Mr King said: Biden is considering a preemptive blanket pardon for Fauci and others. How interesting. Oh, I'm sure at least one Red state might consider charges. After all, New York has pounded the table and demanded it.
JWB Posted December 13, 2024 Posted December 13, 2024 Ex-FBI informant Alexander Smirnov pleads guilty to lying about Joe Biden and Hunter bribes. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14186569/fbi-informant-alexander-smirnov-pleads-guilty-lying-biden-bribes.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&ito=social-twitter_mailonline
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