Tim the Tank Nut Posted July 26 Posted July 26 locally car thefts are up and the police are not pursuing certain categories of criminal. The insurance companies have paid out quite a lot over the last few years. Your synopsis is pretty accurate.
rmgill Posted July 26 Posted July 26 I'll ask for the Biden supporters again. Why isn't Biden Running? Why hasn't he stepped down and resigned already? Why hasn't the VP and the Cabinet invoked 25th Amendment, Article 4? Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President. Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department [sic][note 2][7] or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.
Skywalkre Posted July 26 Posted July 26 4 hours ago, rmgill said: This excellent post needs the appropriate theme music... 🤣 He says some of the same things I did and you applaud him while attempting to tear my post to shreds. Solid proof you're not looking at what's being said but who's saying it. This is comedy gold! 🤣
Skywalkre Posted July 26 Posted July 26 41 minutes ago, rmgill said: I'll ask for the Biden supporters again. Why isn't Biden Running? Why hasn't he stepped down and resigned already? Why hasn't the VP and the Cabinet invoked 25th Amendment, Article 4? The fact you have to ask this just reinforces you get your 'news' from such isolated and biased sources that you're at a loss. Biden is stepping stepping down from the campaign because he was never that popular to begin with (a majority of Ds were polling before the primary season they wanted other options besides just Biden) and after a terrible debate performance the polls showed D voters were disillusioned and it looked certain he'd lose to Trump. Age was a concern from the very beginning (a comment polls have shown voters have used against both candidates) and the debate raised serious questions. Some in the MSM had already been reporting on his deteriorating physical health (such as him using the shorter stairwell when exiting AF1) for months and now there were concerns about his mental capacity. That's not the same, as many on here and you seem to be implying as well, as saying he had lost everything and invoking the 25th now was appropriate. Talking to Biden supporters who watched the debate their frustrations were less about those botched questions early on where he was making no sense but in the dropped opportunities to hammer Trump that he whiffed on the rest of the debate (he was just as coherent as Trump after the first 15m or so of that debate). The few times I've seen cognitive capability come up folks have expressed concern... that if he wins what would he look like in 2-3 years (and the mess of using the 25th then).
Josh Posted July 26 Posted July 26 1 hour ago, rmgill said: I'll ask for the Biden supporters again. Why isn't Biden Running? Why hasn't he stepped down and resigned already? Why hasn't the VP and the Cabinet invoked 25th Amendment, Article 4? Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President. Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department [sic][note 2][7] or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office. I suspect because there is a difference between being capable of the job for the next six months and being capable of the job for the next four years. Those are two different things. I also suspect Biden truly thinks he is capable of the job, but has been convinced he does not have a good chance of winning and that too much is at stake to carry on.
rmgill Posted July 26 Posted July 26 1 hour ago, Skywalkre said: 🤣 He says some of the same things I did and you applaud him while attempting to tear my post to shreds. Solid proof you're not looking at what's being said but who's saying it. This is comedy gold! 🤣 Hang on? Is there an immigration problem with Biden's Policies? Yes or no? You blamed the inflation on Trump and denied it was Biden's fault. PCCalahan noted that it was started with Trump response to COVID and continued and magnified by Biden. He's also not part of the Kamala Biden Cheer Squad. Clearly.
rmgill Posted July 26 Posted July 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, Skywalkre said: The fact you have to ask this just reinforces you get your 'news' from such isolated and biased sources that you're at a loss. Yes. I live in a bubble. I was in a bubble at CNN for 27 years. Please, get real and address the reality. Not your fever dreams. Are you getting your news from the agencies that get and give pre-screened questions to the president and which he has pre-screened answers for? You know, the same ones that are now pumping Kamala as NOT the Border Czar? 1 hour ago, Skywalkre said: Biden is stepping stepping down from the campaign because he was never that popular to begin with (a majority of Ds were polling before the primary season they wanted other options besides just Biden) and after a terrible debate performance the polls showed D voters were disillusioned and it looked certain he'd lose to Trump. So it's his age? 1 hour ago, Skywalkre said: Age was a concern from the very beginning Not for the DNC or the Media. If we check back through your posts on the past 4 years, will we find you making comments about Biden's age? Lets be honest. 1 hour ago, Skywalkre said: (a comment polls have shown voters have used against both candidates) and the debate raised serious questions. No kidding the debate raised serious questions about the age. Now is it just he age or is it the mental acuity, sharpness and apparent sundowning? Can you admit that's part of the concern or are you going to dance around that? 1 hour ago, Skywalkre said: Some in the MSM had already been reporting on his deteriorating physical health (such as him using the shorter stairwell when exiting AF1) for months and now there were concerns about his mental capacity. The MSM was denying the deteriorating physical health for months up until the Debate. Then it was a pivot on a dime. 1 hour ago, Skywalkre said: That's not the same, as many on here and you seem to be implying as well, as saying he had lost everything and invoking the 25th now was appropriate. So you think Biden is still fit to be president? You'd stand by that assertion? 1 hour ago, Skywalkre said: Talking to Biden supporters who watched the debate their frustrations were less about those botched questions early on where he was making no sense but in the dropped opportunities to hammer Trump that he whiffed on the rest of the debate (he was just as coherent as Trump after the first 15m or so of that debate). The few times I've seen cognitive capability come up folks have expressed concern... that if he wins what would he look like in 2-3 years (and the mess of using the 25th then). So you think he's competent. Ok. Why wasn't he charged for his documents case? What was the reason? "Befuddled old man". Edited July 26 by rmgill
rmgill Posted July 26 Posted July 26 54 minutes ago, Josh said: I suspect because there is a difference between being capable of the job for the next six months and being capable of the job for the next four years. Those are two different things. I also suspect Biden truly thinks he is capable of the job, but has been convinced he does not have a good chance of winning and that too much is at stake to carry on. Is he capable now in your opinion? Will you stand by that? Clear question, do you think Biden is mentally fit to be president Now, today, no issues affecting judgement, acuity or attention span that would affect his ability as president?
Josh Posted July 26 Posted July 26 17 minutes ago, rmgill said: Is he capable now in your opinion? Will you stand by that? Yea, I think he can finish the job. No, I didn’t want him to run and yes age is an issue for me, and I feel the same way about Trump. 17 minutes ago, rmgill said: Clear question, do you think Biden is mentally fit to be president Now, today, no issues affecting judgement, acuity or attention span that would affect his ability as president? Yes. I see no need for him to resign. He clearly is degrading mentally, as all older people do, but I think him capable enough for now. However I would not want either him or Trump running things four more years regardless of their policies.
Josh Posted July 26 Posted July 26 53 minutes ago, rmgill said: So principled false equivalence. Both of them would be the oldest president in history at the end of the term. Trump, for all his vocal energy, never the less seems significantly less capable than in 2020, let alone 2016. I know you do not feel that way and that all your media sources have all but pronounced Biden dead, but unless you are a healthcare professional that’s your opinion, and I have mine. Cheer up, in six months Biden will not be in the White House either way.
Mr King Posted July 26 Posted July 26 3 minutes ago, Josh said: Both of them would be the oldest president in history at the end of the term. Trump, for all his vocal energy, never the less seems significantly less capable than in 2020, let alone 2016. I know you do not feel that way and that all your media sources have all but pronounced Biden dead, but unless you are a healthcare professional that’s your opinion, and I have mine. Cheer up, in six months Biden will not be in the White House either way. I have not been here for a while, but how long have you been calling for Biden not to run again? I can't speak for you but shills across the internet who were defending Biden's mental health suddenly did a 180 when it was announced Biden wasnt running again, and they started pushing the narrative in lockstep that both Biden and Trump were just "too old" and both should not run again.
Josh Posted July 26 Posted July 26 8 minutes ago, Mr King said: I have not been here for a while, but how long have you been calling for Biden not to run again? I can't speak for you but shills across the internet who were defending Biden's mental health suddenly did a 180 when it was announced Biden wasnt running again, and they started pushing the narrative in lockstep that both Biden and Trump were just "too old" and both should not run again. I have been saying he was too old and was the worse possible candidate the Dems could pick from the beginning. In fact I explicitly stated in one of these threads that Biden was just about the only Democrat Trump could beat.
Mr King Posted July 26 Posted July 26 30 minutes ago, Josh said: I have been saying he was too old and was the worse possible candidate the Dems could pick from the beginning. In fact I explicitly stated in one of these threads that Biden was just about the only Democrat Trump could beat. Well props to you for being consistent.
Ivanhoe Posted July 27 Posted July 27 This didn't age well; https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/02/13/get-used-to-it-biden-isnt-going-anywhere-00141047 Quote Get Used to It: Biden Isn’t Going Anywhere The GOP fantasy crowd is so accustomed to conspiracy theories that they’re betting the Democrats will switch candidates at the last minute. Have they actually paid attention to politics?
Tim the Tank Nut Posted July 27 Posted July 27 I clicked on the link and lost 8 points of IQ before I could close it. Not sure what I was thinking... I'll tell you what wad weird the other day when he popped back up into view after staying hidden was that for a moment I felt relief. I was sure he was dead or close to it. Despite what he's done I still feel bad for his circumstance. It doesn't make any sense because he's awful but late stage mental failure is a pretty awful thing to have and then for his inner circle to keep him on the clock for their own reasons... I guess I'm just going soft... The reason that the "D" isn't concerned with the rest of the Biden term is because he wasn't calling the shots anyway. For their side it's no different at all. You'll note that Biden isn't on the campaign trail for Harris and that the "D" has abandoned him entirely. All they are interested in is the campaign money now.
rmgill Posted July 27 Posted July 27 1 hour ago, Ivanhoe said: This didn't age well; https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/02/13/get-used-to-it-biden-isnt-going-anywhere-00141047 I think I noted a switch something like 6 months ago. Tim Pool postulated it and it seemed like a possible eventuality. I am surprised that it wasn’t someone with more character than Kamala and apparently Mayor Pete.
rmgill Posted July 27 Posted July 27 47 minutes ago, Tim the Tank Nut said: The reason that the "D" isn't concerned with the rest of the Biden term is because he wasn't calling the shots anyway. For their side it's no different at all. You'll note that Biden isn't on the campaign trail for Harris and that the "D" has abandoned him entirely. All they are interested in is the campaign money now. And the ‘principled’ D’s on this board have no real problem with it.
NickM Posted July 27 Posted July 27 (edited) 10 minutes ago, rmgill said: I think I noted a switch something like 6 months ago. Tim Pool postulated it and it seemed like a possible eventuality. I am surprised that it wasn’t someone with more character than Kamala and apparently Mayor Pete. How can you read that kind of drivel without hurling from the smugness? EDIT: I also noticed Politico didn't have a comments section. Edited July 27 by NickM
Tim the Tank Nut Posted July 27 Posted July 27 If you are looking for a "principled" D then look to Dean Phillips. There are no positions that he espouses that I would agree with but because he had the temerity to point out Biden's circumstance the Democrat Party destroyed him utterly. As a practical matter his career as a politician is over. Nobody on the Left will ever say that Representaitve Phillips was right even though in the end President Biden agreed with Phillps' position and dropped out of the campaign. The notion of the party holding an actual contest is laughable. EVERYTHING that the D does is for power. And the supporters line up, one after the other, never questioning any of it because if they do step out of line they end up like Dean Phillips.
NickM Posted July 27 Posted July 27 34 minutes ago, rmgill said: I think I noted a switch something like 6 months ago. Tim Pool postulated it and it seemed like a possible eventuality. I am surprised that it wasn’t someone with more character than Kamala and apparently Mayor Pete. Mayor Pete has proven to be even MORE ineffectual in his job than Kammi in her all of hers.
rmgill Posted July 27 Posted July 27 4 hours ago, NickM said: How can you read that kind of drivel without hurling from the smugness? I have a strong stomach and learned to bite my tongue. I was at CNN for 27 years. And I didn't hurl any of the anchors at the CNN DC Bureau off any balconies. 4 hours ago, NickM said: EDIT: I also noticed Politico didn't have a comments section. You think they want to hear what the huddled masses think?
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