Stuart Galbraith Posted July 11, 2024 Posted July 11, 2024 9 hours ago, 17thfabn said: No, not at all. As far as I know, no major Democratic figure has called for Biden to step aside. Clooney was an A-list actor for a few years many years ago. Not so much now. Not a major voice in the Democratic party. I'm guessing the top figures in the Democratic party will not publicly oppose Biden continuing on until there they have a strong enough group to force him out. If they can't force him out, if in fact they want to, they don't want to undermine his candidacy. Well that is how it was presented to me at the time, and I apologise for misrepresenting it. In reality hearing the actual quote, where he described Biden when he met him as entirely unlike the Biden who won the election, and entirely like the one who blundered his way through the debate, was barely less scathing. I think he's done. Whether he will realise it before the election is of course another matter.
Tim the Tank Nut Posted July 11, 2024 Posted July 11, 2024 It's more likely that Jill has made up Joe's mind for him. Given the condition he's in I am surprised that he hasn't pardoned Hunter Biden. There's no guarantee at this point that he will be able to do so in the near future. I hate what they've done to the country and Biden is a vile person but I can't help feeling sorry a little bit. The bill is coming due and it's a big bill.
17thfabn Posted July 11, 2024 Posted July 11, 2024 (edited) 11 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: Well that is how it was presented to me at the time, and I apologise for misrepresenting it. In reality hearing the actual quote, where he described Biden when he met him as entirely unlike the Biden who won the election, and entirely like the one who blundered his way through the debate, was barely less scathing. I think he's done. Whether he will realise it before the election is of course another matter. I've got to give the Democrats credit. So far the only ones calling openly for Biden to step aside are low level. And I include an actor as low level. The people who really matter such as former President Obama, former Speaker Pelosi, Senator Schumer, House Minority Leader Jeffries and the big money behind the scenes people are publicly saying it is Biden's decision. What kind of pressure they are exerting behind the scene they are doing a very good job of keeping quiet. Tactically it makes sense. If they can't force Joe Biden out they want to present a picture of unity. I think Biden fully intends to go the distance. If he was planning on leaving the race he would have already done it. The powers Democratic Party are running out of time if they think they can force him out. I don't know what the rules are in the Democratic Party. From what I understand with Biden having the vast majority of delegates locked up he would have to agree to pull out of the race. The news media are playing up every Democrat who comes out against Biden. George Clooney was a fairly big name years ago. But he is still just an actor. Edited July 11, 2024 by 17thfabn
rmgill Posted July 11, 2024 Posted July 11, 2024 The amount of unenthusiastic democrats who aren’t going to go vote at all has all the other democrats in their various respective races screaming in anger. This has the potential to make this a very mid term election feel as far as the democrat down ticket votes go. This could throw congress and many state races to the GOP.
DKTanker Posted July 11, 2024 Posted July 11, 2024 6 hours ago, 17thfabn said: I've got to give the Democrats credit. So far the only ones calling openly for Biden to step aside are low level. And I include an actor as low level. All indications are that Clooney wrote that op-ed at the behest of Obama. You're never going to see any high level democrat make such a statement just like no high level Republican publicly called for Nixon's resignation. News reports this afternoon are stating the WH has commissioned polling of Trump v Harris. Now why would the Biden WH do that if they didn't believe Biden was inclined to step down?
Ivanhoe Posted July 11, 2024 Posted July 11, 2024 We'll know the jig is up when Alec Baldwin pays a visit to the WH.
17thfabn Posted July 12, 2024 Posted July 12, 2024 4 hours ago, DKTanker said: News reports this afternoon are stating the WH has commissioned polling of Trump v Harris. Now why would the Biden WH do that if they didn't believe Biden was inclined to step down? I heard a theory that they hoped it would show that Harris would do worse against Trump than Biden would. So it would be an argument for staying with Biden.
Stuart Galbraith Posted July 12, 2024 Posted July 12, 2024 4 hours ago, 17thfabn said: I heard a theory that they hoped it would show that Harris would do worse against Trump than Biden would. So it would be an argument for staying with Biden. At this point, I think she would struggle mightily with that..
rmgill Posted July 12, 2024 Posted July 12, 2024 I am sure she will become unburdened by what has been.
Soren Ras Posted July 12, 2024 Posted July 12, 2024 3 hours ago, Ivanhoe said: Hey, I guess Orange really is the new Black!
Ivanhoe Posted July 12, 2024 Posted July 12, 2024 7 hours ago, Soren Ras said: Hey, I guess Orange really is the new Black! "If you don't vote for me, you ain't orange!"
Ivanhoe Posted July 13, 2024 Posted July 13, 2024 https://redstate.com/sister-toldjah/2024/07/11/milwaukee-radio-station-that-interviewed-joe-biden-makes-a-damning-admission-n2176691 Quote Nearly a week after his disastrous June debate performance, President Joe Biden did two much-hyped phone interviews with two radio stations. One of them was in Philadelphia, with the other one being in Milwaukee. Both were designed to appeal to black voters and quell any concerns about Biden's supposed ability/inability to speak coherently in any setting, especially ones that were not tightly controlled. Neither interview did that. As we previously reported, both segments were pre-recorded. Further, both radio hosts, WURD's Andrea Lawful-Sanders and Civic Media's Earl Ingram, admitted after the fact that the Biden campaign submitted questions to them in advance of the interviews, most of which were used in the back-and-forth exchanges. https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/11/milwaukee-radio-station-says-it-agreed-to-edit-interview-with-biden/74369012007/ Quote MADISON — Civic Media, a Wisconsin-based progressive talk-radio network, said Thursday it had agreed to make two edits to an interview with President Joe Biden at the request of his campaign before the broadcast aired, a decision the station said fell short of "journalistic interview standards." Still, the station said, it stands by its popular host Earl Ingram, who conducted the interview with Biden following the June 27 televised debate with rival Republican Donald Trump during which the president lost his train of thought and at times made nonsensical statements. Ingram's interview was recorded on July 3 and aired on July 4. "On Monday, July 8th, it was reported to Civic Media management that immediately after the phone interview was recorded, the Biden campaign called and asked for two edits to the recording before it aired. Civic Media management immediately undertook an investigation and determined that the production team at the time viewed the edits as non-substantive and broadcast and published the interview with two short segments removed," the station said in a statement released on Thursday. The station said it would make the full, unedited interview available online.
Ivanhoe Posted July 13, 2024 Posted July 13, 2024 https://www.axios.com/2024/07/06/biden-interview-draft-questions-wurd Quote Zoom out: Michael LaRosa, the former press secretary for First Lady Jill Biden, told Axios that pre-submitting questions to interviewees has long been a tactic for Biden's team. When he joined the team in the fall of 2019, he said that some members tried to do the same for Jill Biden's interviews. "I was really uncomfortable and had to explain in a more colorful way," LaRosa said. "I said specifically. 'Look, it's unethical for you to do that. They can be called out for screening the questions for [Joe Biden] but we're not going to embarrass his wife that way. Ever. Do you get it?'"
EchoFiveMike Posted July 15, 2024 Posted July 15, 2024 His misfiring brain is defaulting to the truth as he forgets the lies. S/F....Ken M
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