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21 hours ago, BansheeOne said:

Last I checked, none of the Squad are nominated for an official position in the administration, there were no campaign promises to take down Israel a notch unlike there were for killing Keystone XL, and I see no political gain (but lots of likely repercussions) from embarking on such attempts. Word is the Biden admin's policy on the whole Israeli-Palestinian thing will be kinda like GWB's - leave it alone as best possible

 

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Israeli military chief of staff’s remarks are rare and a clear warning to the Biden administration on its relations with Iran

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3 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

From what im understanding, the oil that would have gone to the US via keystone is still going to the US via freight train. So whats bad news for a pipeline, probably is excellent news for US railroads in a depressed period.

 

Yes, but not a zero-sum game. Higher delivered cost, higher risk of spills, higher cost of non-petro cargo delivery, etc.

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23 hours ago, Mikel2 said:


Trump's price controls on insulin and other pharmaceuticals should offend any small government person.  The way to cheaper goods is competition and getting the government out of the way.  But neither party wants that. Nixon-style price controls are more their style.

AIUI, the FDA essentially awarded a monopoly on Epi-Pens (strange since epinephrine has been around for decades). Basically, competing devices have an extreme uphill battle to get approval.

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On 1/27/2021 at 6:50 PM, Ivanhoe said:

AIUI, the FDA essentially awarded a monopoly on Epi-Pens (strange since epinephrine has been around for decades). Basically, competing devices have an extreme uphill battle to get approval.

I thought some relationships between the company manufacturing EpiPens and political power were generally known.
 

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One Democratic senator whose daughter has allergies has called for action and another Democratic senator's daughter is CEO of the company responsible for the price hike.

Sen. Joe Manchin said Thursday Mylan, the company which manufactures Epipens which is headed by his daughter, is responding to constituent and lawmaker questions.

"I am aware of the questions my colleagues and many parents are asking and frankly I share their concerns about the skyrocketing prices of prescription drugs," the West Virginia Democrat said in a statement. "Today I heard Mylan's initial response, and I am sure Mylan will have a more comprehensive and formal response to those questions‎."

His daughter, Heather Bresch who is Mylan's CEO, announced Thursday the company is taking steps to make the product more affordable, including providing $300 savings cards to cut the price in half, though she told CNBC the health care "system" needed to be fixed.

"I look forward to reviewing their response in detail and working with my colleagues and all interested parties to lower the price of prescription drugs and to continue to improve our health care system," Manchin added.

But Sen. Richard Blumenthal dismissed the change as a "PR fix."

"This step seems like a PR fix more than a real remedy, masking an exorbitant and callous price hike. This baby step should be followed by actual robust action," the Connecticut Democrat said.

"The only fair and effective relief is a substantial price reduction for everyone who needs access to this life-saving drug, not just a special break for people who are in particular health plans and have the extra hours in their work day to navigate a bureaucratic labyrinth of discounts. I will continue to push for a federal investigation and Congressional action."

 

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Minor fallout from the Morocco deal.

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Date 02.03.2021

Morocco cuts contact with German embassy – reports

Morocco's Foreign Minister Nasser Bourita has cited "deep disagreements" with Germany over Berlin's stance on Western Sahara, according to local media.

Morocco is suspending "all contact" with the German embassy in Rabat over Berlin's stance on the Western Sahara region, local media reported late Monday.

In December, Germany criticized then-US President Donald Trump for recognizing Morocco's sovereignty over Western Sahara.

Morocco's Foreign Minister Nasser Bourita reportedly asked the government to suspend communications with all German entities in Rabat, citing "deep disagreements" with Berlin.

According to media reports, a senior diplomat said Rabat was also reacting to not receiving an invitation to an international meeting about Libya last year. 

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How has Western Sahara affected Moroccan diplomacy? 

After Trump recognized Moroccan sovereignty over Western Sahara, Germany called a UN Security Council meeting.  

Since 2019, Morocco has allowed states to open their diplomatic services in Western Sahara under their mission to Rabat.

In 2018, Morocco cut diplomatic ties with Iran, citing its support for the Polisario Front. 

Rabat also expelled at least 70 UN staffers in 2016 after then-Secretary General Ban Ki-moon described Morocco's annexation of Western Sahara as an "occupation".

https://www.dw.com/en/morocco-cuts-contact-with-german-embassy-reports/a-56741809

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Sein Blick ist vom Vorübergehn der Stäbe
so müd geworden, daß er nichts mehr hält.
Ihm ist, als ob es tausend Stäbe gäbe
und hinter tausend Stäben keine Welt.

Der weiche Gang geschmeidig starker Schritte,
der sich im allerkleinsten Kreise dreht,
ist wie ein Tanz von Kraft um eine Mitte,
in der betäubt ein großer Wille steht.

Nur manchmal schiebt der Vorhang der Pupille
sich lautlos auf –. Dann geht ein Bild hinein,
geht durch der Glieder angespannte Stille –
und hört im Herzen auf zu sein.

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Yeah. Unfortunately the Panthersprung cannot be repeated simply because with the retirement of the missile FACs there are no more German Navy ships named after big cats. The last Panther was a Type 148 decomissioned in 2001.

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4 hours ago, BansheeOne said:

Yeah. Unfortunately the Panthersprung cannot be repeated simply because with the retirement of the missile FACs there are no more German Navy ships named after big cats. The last Panther was a Type 148 decomissioned in 2001.

Aren't some of the recently commisioned german frigates in reality "colonial cruisers"?😁

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Some progress, some hiccups.

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Date 11.03.2021

Author Judit Neurink

Gulf states embrace Israel — and the language, too

Hebrew lessons are in demand in the Gulf. Since the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain signed the rapprochement deals with Israel last year, "Shalom" is now often heard on the streets of Dubai.

Curiosity, that's why May al-Badi wanted to learn Hebrew. "Wanting to know more about something we don't have here," says the young Emirati woman who lives in Dubai. Until recently, the United Arab Emirates (UAE) had no formal ties with Israel. "I've been fascinated by the language since I made Jewish friends in the United States."

But the main reason she is finally starting an online course is her Jewish friends she'd met in Dubai; expats who invited her to eat with them in their homes for the Shabbat, the start of the Jewish weekend on Friday night.

That was a year ago, after the Emirates officially declared 2019 its Year of Tolerance. This led to the small Jewish expat community in the UAE coming out into the open with plans to build a synagogue. Since the UAE signed the Abraham Accords [Normalization agreements - the ed.] with Israel last September, thousands of Israeli businesspeople and tourists have flocked to Dubai. Hotels have adapted to their specific needs, offering kosher food but also pre-Shabbat meals for as many as 200 people at a time.

At around the same time, the demand for Hebrew courses went through the roof, says director Josh Samet of the Educational Hebrew Institute (EHI) in Dubai and Abu Dhabi. "I couldn't believe it," he says on the phone from Dubai. "I was mainly teaching government ministers and expats, and suddenly there was this huge demand."

Demand for Hebrew goes through the roof

His institute now has a few hundred students, mostly beginners and some intermediate. They come from all walks of life, ranging from students who want to go and study in Israel to businesspeople, church ministers, doctors, lawyers, tour guides, and even members of the royal family, Samet says.

"And now, the students are from every nationality. Before, it was mainly Chinese and Korean businessmen." He offers online courses and Zoom classes with teachers in Israel, but also classes at the institute and in corporate or government offices. Of course, everything has been adapted to be in line with COVID-19 regulations, adding that, "some people still prefer to work face-to-face."

The demand stems from the business opportunities the Accords have opened up with Israel, as well as by the huge number of Israelis who are expected to visit the UAE. Recently, Samet's institute was even asked by the authorities in Abu Dhabi to provide a Hebrew translation of a handout about the COVID-19 vaccine. In Bahrain, which signed the Accords at the same time as the UAE last year, he is active with online content.

At the same time, Samet also sees a growing demand for online courses from Gulf States that have not yet signed a peace agreement with Israel — like Saudi Arabia. For the past 80 years, since the founding of the State of Israel in 1948, everything relating to Israel and Judaism has been taboo in most of the Arab world.

Hebrew as a business magnet

For some, learning Hebrew will simply mean being able to speak a couple of words to attract customers. Jewish visitors as well as expats have related how they are greeted and addressed in Hebrew on the street in Dubai.

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In December, some 60,000 Israelis flew to the UAE, but the flow has stopped since then due to lockdown measures. Although experiences with Israeli visitors have been mostly positive, some Jewish expats admit to being apprehensive about the impression left by those who misbehave. Most Emiratis are still quite conservative; alcohol is tolerated, though not on the streets, and drunken behavior is not accepted. Some rowdy visitors from Israel have already ended up in jail, and there is talk of making every visitor sign a promise to adhere to local customs and standards before entering the country.

Yet none of this should be classed as antisemitism, expats say. Many say they find the atmosphere in the UAE far friendlier in that sense than in many places in the West. And where in the West would the locals take the trouble to learn their language?

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https://www.dw.com/en/gulf-states-embrace-israel-and-the-language-too/a-56834169

 

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Netanyahu trip to UAE canceled amid Jordan imbroglio

The trip was canceled for the fourth time due to a diplomatic dispute with Jordan and the hospitalization of Netanyahu's wife Sara for appendicitis.

By LAHAV HARKOV, KHALED ABU TOAMEH  

MARCH 11, 2021 22:14

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s trip to the United Arab Emirates was canceled on Thursday amid a diplomatic crisis with Jordan, and because Netanyahu’s wife, Sara, is hospitalized with appendicitis.

Jordan blocked Netanyahu’s planned flight to the United Arab Emirates from entering its airspace on Thursday morning, the Prime Minister’s Office said.

“These difficulties apparently come from the cancellation of the Jordanian crown prince’s visit to the Temple Mount, following a dispute over security arrangements at the site,” the PMO said.

By midday Thursday, Jordan was willing to allow the flight to enter its airspace, but Netanyahu and UAE leader Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan had already agreed to postpone the prime minister’s visit – for the fourth time since Israel and the UAE established diplomatic relations in August.

“My visit to the Emirates was not made possible due to a misunderstanding,” Netanyahu said on Thursday evening. “Difficulties in coordinating our flights [was] due to an incident that happened yesterday on the Temple Mount. It took us a good few hours to straighten things out with Jordan. [Now] we can fly. I can fly over the skies of Jordan, [but by the time] this coordination was achieved, the visit was not possible.”

Jordanian Crown Prince Hussein bin Abdullah had planned to visit al-Aqsa Mosque on the Temple Mount on Wednesday, following coordination with Israel on his security.

However, the prince arrived at the Israeli border with more armed guards than had been agreed upon, Israeli sources said. The additional guards were not permitted to enter Israel, and Hussein canceled his visit.

Jordanian Foreign Minister Ayman al-Safadi said that the crown prince canceled the visit because Israel wanted to impose new arrangements and change the visit itinerary.

Safadi did not comment on the diplomatic crisis surrounding Netanyahu’s trip to the UAE.

“Jordan had agreed with Israel on the arrangements for the visit, but we were surprised at the last minute that Israel wanted to impose new arrangements and change the visit program,” Safadi told reporters after a meeting in Paris of the Munich Group, which included the foreign ministers of Egypt, France and Germany, as well as the European Union Special Representative for the Middle East Peace Process and the UN Coordinator for the Peace Process.

“The crown prince wanted to make a religious visit to al-Aqsa Mosque to pray on the occasion of Isra’ and Mi’raj,” Safadi said, referring to the Islamic holiday marking prophet Mohammed’s journey from Mecca to Jerusalem, and then to heaven.

According to Safadi, the proposed Israeli measures would have imposed restrictions on Muslim worshipers in Jerusalem during the special prayer to observe the holiday.

“His royal highness decided that he would not allow such restrictions against Muslim worshipers on this blessed night,” he added. “That’s why he decided to cancel the visit: to preserve the right of the worshipers in Jerusalem to freely celebrate this event.”

Safadi reiterated Jordan’s position that the entire area of the Aqsa Mosque compound “is a place of worship for Muslims only.” Israel, he said, has no sovereignty over the holy site.

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Netanyahu’s trip to the UAE was supposed to be his first since the announcement of the Abraham Accords in August, marking peace and normalization between the Gulf state and Israel.

Earlier on Thursday, Netanyahu considered canceling his trip to the United Arab Emirates after his wife, Sarah, was hospitalized with appendicitis.

Sarah felt unwell late Wednesday night, and accompanied by her husband, went to Hadassah-University Medical Center in Jerusalem’s Ein Kerem where she was diagnosed with appendicitis. She will remain in the hospital for several days.

The prime minister had planned to meet with Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi Mohammad bin Zayed Al Nahyan at the airport in the Emirati capital for a two-hour visit.

Instead, Netanyahu spoke to the crown prince on the phone on Thursday, during which the UAE leader committed to have his country invest $10 billion in Israel. WAM, the Emirati state news agency, reported that the funds would go to energy, manufacturing, water, space, healthcare and agri-tech, among other sectors, and will “support development initiatives to promote regional economic cooperation between the two countries.” The funds will come from the government of the UAE, as well as the private sector.

Israeli, Emirati and Saudi officials had worked on a possible secret meeting between Netanyahu and Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman during his brief trip to the UAE.

“MBS is ready to meet Bibi,” said a well-placed Emirati source.

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https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/netanyahu-flight-to-uae-canceled-jordan-blocks-flight-from-its-airspace-661663

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On 3/2/2021 at 9:12 AM, BansheeOne said:

This spat is still going on. Apparently there's a German-Moroccan activist based in Duisburg whose Youtubing against the kingdom has additionally fanned the flames; he is accusing Morocco of having jailed and tortured him over false terror allegations. Morocco has filed a criminal complaint against him over various of his broadcasts, in which German authorities however could find nothing illegal.

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Date 07.05.2021

Morocco recalls ambassador in Germany over Western Sahara

The German government said it was "surprised" by the decision. Moroccan-German ties have been tense in recent months.

Morocco revoked its ambassador in Berlin "for consultations" on Thursday and accused Germany of a "negative stance" regarding the disputed Western Sahara territory.

The North African country reprimanded Germany for "antagonistic activism" following US President Donald Trump's move to recognize Moroccan sovereignty over the territory in December.

What are Morocco's allegations towards Germany?

"Germany has distanced itself from the spirit of constructive solution with a destructive attitude on the issue of the Moroccan Sahara," the Moroccan Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

After the US recognized Moroccan control over the territory, Germany called for a closed-door UN Security Council meeting to debate the issue. Morocco is disappointed that Germany pushed back on the US decision over the territory.

The Moroccan government also accused Germany of "exhibiting continued determination to counter Morocco's influence, particularly on the Libyan issue." Moroccan officials were excluded from a meeting in Berlin in mid-January to discuss the Libyan conflict.

In addition, Rabat slammed German officials over their alleged "complicity" regarding an unnamed individual "formerly convicted of acts of terror."

How did Germany respond to the allegations?

Germany said it was "surprised" by Morocco's move to recall its ambassador.

"We are all the more surprised by this measure as we are working with the Moroccan side in a constructive way to resolve this crisis," the German Foreign Ministry said.

In March, Morocco requested its government departments suspend contact with Germany's embassy in the North African nation, due to differences on the Western Sahara issue. 

The two countries are close economic partners. According to the German Foreign Office, Germany is Morocco's seventh-largest trading partner as of 2019, with Berlin also giving foreign aid to the Kingdom for economic and clean energy development.

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https://www.dw.com/en/morocco-recalls-ambassador-in-germany-over-western-sahara/a-57455313

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50 minutes ago, BansheeOne said:

This spat is still going on. Apparently there's a German-Moroccan activist based in Duisburg whose Youtubing against the kingdom has additionally fanned the flames; he is accusing Morocco of having jailed and tortured him over false terror allegations. Morocco has filed a criminal complaint against him over various of his broadcasts, in which German authorities however could find nothing illegal.

https://www.dw.com/en/morocco-recalls-ambassador-in-germany-over-western-sahara/a-57455313

Morocco is quite restless as of late:

https://www.africanews.com/2021/04/26/morocco-protests-to-spain-after-polisario-leader-s-hospitalization/

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Date 11.05.2021

Author Kersten Knipp

Amid escalation, Israel's Arab allies walk a diplomatic tightrope

The escalation of violence in Israel and the Palestinian territories is straining Israel's relations with the Arab world. Countries that have agreed to a normalization of bilateral relations are now under pressure.

The recent street fights in east Jerusalem, which led to an open military confrontation between Israel and Hamas in the Gaza Strip on Monday evening, has been grist for the political mills in Tehran and Ankara. 

Last August, when first the United Arab Emirates (UAE) and then Bahrain, Morocco and Sudan signed normalization agreements with Israel, both Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran's supreme leader, called it nothing short of a betrayal of the Muslim world.

Their reaction came in stark contrast to that of the majority of Arab political leaders, who either chose to remain silent or not openly criticize the so-called Abraham Accords.

Renewed criticism of Israel

Amid the current escalation in east Jerusalem, both countries have renewed their criticism of Israel.

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Numerous postings on social media against Israel, as well as outspoken messages by popular media outlets that address the Arab world as a whole, have left no room for interpretation. "The illusionary bubbles have burst," wrote the pan-Arab newspaper Al Araby Al-Jadeed. The Qatar-financed daily named all those who "consider normalization with the enemy as their duty" as traitors.

Turkey, Iran 'will try to capitalize on events'

"There is no doubt that both Turkey and Iran will try to capitalize on the events of Palestine politically, and to attack their regional rivals engaging with Israel," Cinzia Bianco, analyst and visiting fellow at the European Council on Foreign Relations (ECFR), told DW.

Erdogan, as well as Khamenei, might exploit the fact that Saudi Arabia, the most important Sunni state in the Arab world, has discreetly though quite successfully improved relations with Israel. It remains to be seen if this will turn into Riyadh's disadvantage against those countries that have been trying to establish their leadership by being hostile toward Israel.

On the other hand, growing pressure from the Arab world makes life more complicated for those politicians and countries, like the UAE, Morocco, Sudan and Bahrain, that have agreed to peaceful relations and economic ties with Israel after decades of frozen and hostile positions.

Even at the beginning, these newly established relations were not well received by parts of these countries' own populations, as well as by many citizens of other Arab states. To counterbalance negative sentiments on the streets, the involved Arab heads of state and government officially justified their signatures with the hope of defusing the Middle East conflict.

At the signing ceremony between the UAE and Israel last summer, Abu Dhabi's Crown Prince Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan highlighted that both sides had reached an agreement "to stop further Israeli annexation of Palestinian territories." The deal, agreed in a phone call with then-US President Donald Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, also spoke of plans to agree "on cooperation and setting a roadmap towards establishing a bilateral relationship."

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"The UAE's interests vis-a-vis relations with Israel are strategic rather than tactical. This means it is unlikely that that the process of normalization will be reversed, but it is quite likely instead that progress on several ongoing joint projects will be frozen for as long as clashes remain in an acute phase," said Bianco of the ECFR.

"The UAE remains alert to the sentiment of the Arab street, which is profoundly moved by the escalation against Palestinians, but does not let it dictate its regional policies," she said.

https://www.dw.com/en/amid-escalation-israels-arab-allies-walk-a-diplomatic-tightrope/a-57497849

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At this point I'm mostly ok with the Israeli's starting to carpet bomb parts of Gaza. Designate sections for evacuation, and carpet bombing. Deliver tents for the refugees to rebuild their "camps" with. 

Make the camps camps again. If they've got multistory concrete buildings, they ain't camps any more. 

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3 hours ago, rmgill said:

At this point I'm mostly ok with the Israeli's starting to carpet bomb parts of Gaza. Designate sections for evacuation, and carpet bombing. Deliver tents for the refugees to rebuild their "camps" with. 

Make the camps camps again. If they've got multistory concrete buildings, they ain't camps any more. 

Wouldn't change anything, Hamas would just move to the safe areas and operate from there.

This process has already been through several iterations, and in previous ones there was assurance from the Israeli side that the damage had been decisive, with infrastructure and terrorists tunnels, etc destroyed and the Egyptians have devastated their side of the border to stop smuggling and counter the insurgency in the Sinai (it can be seen in Google Earth), yet Hamas has more rockets than ever.

It should be pretty obivous that the only way to stop this is boots on the ground, but that carries its own price, and it seems Israel prefers to fund Iron Dome than to lose soldiers to a guerrilla, so this will keep on being repeated for the foreseeable future.

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Golda Meir said "this will only stop when they love their children more than they hate us".

I wonder if the millions of Germans that were brutally ethnically cleansed in 1945-46 would get the same sympathy from the international community had they behaved like the Palestinians for the last seventy years.  I'm sure France, the Czechs, the Russians and Poles would be good sports as rockets from angry Germans rained on them on a semi-daily basis.  Luckily for everyone, post-war displaced Germans had better things to do with their lives.

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