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Mine was pretty low, even with my height (196cm) my head was lower than a regular car's driver's position. Great for ride outside cities, or even cities if traffic is low enough, but I have felt* that I have given up only advantage of the bicycle rider in the city trafic, situation awareness. So for the city riding old regular one stayed, and in the end I have sold a recliner, since space in the flat was too tight for two bikes. :(

* Maybe I was just unused to it, but I was trying it for a good 4-5 months.

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Get well soon Banshee, and don't believe those saying it will hurt before every storm - my left arm (both bones broken in the lower arm, one of those open fracture, and dislocated elbow... don't ask how, I am still not sure...) never made such problems... OTOH, it occasionally sets off airport (and other places...) metal detectors. :D

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Well, had one of those days yesterday.  We went to a pumpkin patch just to get out of the house/office, and my wife's right ankle broke as she was walking.  No holes, no rocks, nothing to trip on.  I was looking at her feet as it happened.  she took a step, went down hard.  At least one break; we see the surgeon Tuesday AM.  Thank God her artificial hip didn't dislocate when she fell.

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Once you've bent your ankle once or twice, it becomes succeptible for more. I have the same problem, last getting off my bike (hm, there's a pattern there) a couple months ago. So far I haven't managed to break it - I think; I have stopped bothering having it checked just to be told to smear Mobilat on and bandage it. Hurts badly each time though. Best wishes to your wife, Steven. 

Had the CT this morning. The resident shoulder specialist wasn't in, so I was told to show again tomorrow, but the surgeon reviewing the images was pretty definite it needs surgery. Have no pain with the arm in sling, but the sensation over the last days is somehow familiar; I think I may have done the same before less severely without giving it too much attention, but don't really know when and how. Of course my mother once told me she inadvertently dislocated my arm when I was a toddler by pulling me up and across a puddle. I don't remember that myself though, and don't know which one. 

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My ankle still seems to occasionally throw up pain an injury I sustained in 2003 from putting my foot in an old post hole at Bovington Tank Museum, as I chased after Tiger 131 on its first run with  my digital camera. The nearest thing I have to a war injury I guess :)

No, ive not broken mine either, but I seem to have twisted it in every conceivable way that it must be made out of the same rubber they make dog toys out of.

Yeah, Ive had arm dislocations as well as a child, both of them IIRC. Thankfully they went away as I grew older, though somebody said the body grows a chunk of bone to lock it in place which is more pronounced in people that had it pop out.

Well at least they sound like they are on the case. Hope they get something sorted out soon.

 

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22 minutes ago, BansheeOne said:

 Of course my mother once told me she inadvertently dislocated my arm when I was a toddler by pulling me up and across a puddle. I don't remember that myself though, and don't know which one. 

This could also be a pulled elbow (Kindermädchen-Ellenbogen), which is typical at that age and for that specific trauma mechanism, but that is not a shoulder injury.

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On 10/17/2020 at 11:01 AM, bojan said:

Mine was pretty low, even with my height (196cm) my head was lower than a regular car's driver's position. Great for ride outside cities, or even cities if traffic is low enough, but I have felt* that I have given up only advantage of the bicycle rider in the city trafic, situation awareness. So for the city riding old regular one stayed, and in the end I have sold a recliner, since space in the flat was too tight for two bikes. :(

n.b. in 'Murrica, such bikes are called "recumbents."

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6 hours ago, BansheeOne said:

...Had the CT this morning. The resident shoulder specialist wasn't in, so I was told to show again tomorrow, but the surgeon reviewing the images was pretty definite it needs surgery...

Surgeons are generally pretty willing to come down on the side of surgery.  Jami wanted me to pass on her wishes for a speedy recovery.

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23 hours ago, BansheeOne said:

Once you've bent your ankle once or twice, it becomes succeptible for more. I have the same problem, last getting off my bike (hm, there's a pattern there) a couple months ago. So far I haven't managed to break it - I think; I have stopped bothering having it checked just to be told to smear Mobilat on and bandage it. Hurts badly each time though. Best wishes to your wife, Steven. 

Had the CT this morning. The resident shoulder specialist wasn't in, so I was told to show again tomorrow, but the surgeon reviewing the images was pretty definite it needs surgery. Have no pain with the arm in sling, but the sensation over the last days is somehow familiar; I think I may have done the same before less severely without giving it too much attention, but don't really know when and how. Of course my mother once told me she inadvertently dislocated my arm when I was a toddler by pulling me up and across a puddle. I don't remember that myself though, and don't know which one. 

Years ago, playing football of the American variety, we taped our ankles before games and training, went through a lot of tape.  It seems that when you have an ankle injury the muscles / tendons etc can heal, but the nerves that provide warning of injury takes up to a year to heal.  Good taping - like a stirrup from one side to another, or even from the outside of the ankle to curl around the instep - gives hints to the ankle when you are about to be injured by tugging on the skin, which provides a second set of messages that you should either stabilise or indeed fall over rather than re-damaging the ankle.

My own experience of muscle damage.  20 years ago I was the on call person for an elderly neighbour.  When he pushed a device around his neck when he fell over I was contacted to attend to him.  One Christmas eve, after virtually carrying my wife in from our car, so my muscles were already tense, the neighbour had a fall.  I got him on his feet ready to sit him down in a stable position when he fell sideways, and I caught him with my right arm.  I did not know it for months, I was just thinking that my arm was a little sore, but I had ripped one head of by right bicep...   Orthopedic vet said I was the second youngest person that he had seen this, and it was too late to do anything about it.

And then, always an and then.  I kept doing strength and weight training as I had done for years.  My right shoulder started hurting a little, well, sort of.  Vet sent me off for a scan of the right shoulder which disclosed that I had torn both major tendons in my right shoulder.  Too late to do anything about it except some physiotherapy management and to make sure that I didn't place anything above shoulder height at home.

My physiotherapist looked at the scans and asked me to lift my right arm about my head; which I did.  Her next question was 'How can you do that?' as the injury was such that I should not have been able to raise my arm above shoulder level.  Well I guess the body compensates when it had to.  I took anti inflammatories for a long while to help me sleep..............

then, last year - deep vein thrombosis in right leg.  Had to take blood thinners and no anti-inflamatory drugs.  Paracetamol and sometimes codeine only.  Things got better, was able to take anti-inflamatories once I went off blood thinners.  BUT this year I got another deep vein thrombosis in the left leg.  I will be on blood thinners for the rest of my life.  Add to that arthritic knees from too much sport early on..... 

Such is life.  Meanwhile my wife is in hospital at the moment (she being 69 years old) and may not return home.  As I said, such is life.

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On 10/19/2020 at 12:29 PM, Daan said:

This could also be a pulled elbow (Kindermädchen-Ellenbogen), which is typical at that age and for that specific trauma mechanism, but that is not a shoulder injury.

Talked to my mother, and it was indeed the elbow rather than the shoulder as I had understood. Being a surgeon's wife, she also quoted the medical term, which I forgot already 😁 (my father also fixed the problem back then).

19 hours ago, Harold Jones said:

Surgeons are generally pretty willing to come down on the side of surgery.  Jami wanted me to pass on her wishes for a speedy recovery.

Say thanks to Jami. I thought the same about surgeons and surgery, but more detailed explanation today made the case pretty clear. About a quarter of the area interfacing with the bone has broken away and moved outward and down. Upside of the not-so-trivial nature is I got a really quick appointment for Thursday to have a plate implanted, and am expected to be home by Sunday (though part of the reason for the speed is that the resident specialist will be on vacation the next two weeks). Well, unless the obligatory COVID test they took comes back positive, which I think unlikely.

I'm glad, because while I manage quite well on my own with one-and-a-half hands, I start to notice the asymmetric effect of the sling on my already-scoliotic spine, and there's an annoying itch on the inside of the fixed arm. Also, the way we've gone back to exponential growth of COVID cases in the last two weeks, availability of appointments isn't going to improve as hospitals are preparing for possible increased ICU loads again.

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Funny you mentioned itches. When I was 5, I broke a finger badly and had a cast for a couple of months (this was back in the Pleistocene era). I scoured the house looking for long thin objects to shove under the cast to scratch itches.

 

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We just got home from seeing the surgeon (and going through a mandatory COVID test for her).  The word is:  Surgery.  The date is:  tomorrow, 10/21.  They aren't going to let any more time pass than necessary.  Both of the lower leg bones are broken at the ankle, and they are spreading apart, so it will take a plate, some screws, a cable, and probably a #3 Erector set to put Humpty Dumpty back together again.  😊

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On 10/19/2020 at 11:53 AM, Harold Jones said:

Surgeons are generally pretty willing to come down on the side of surgery.  Jami wanted me to pass on her wishes for a speedy recovery.

Cuz steel heals!

It might depend on the doc though.  Some do because hey, it's more billing and the hospital wants its ducats. Others don't because guidelines, "do no harm" and decreasing liability exposure.

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3 hours ago, Steven P Allen said:

We just got home from seeing the surgeon (and going through a mandatory COVID test for her).  The word is:  Surgery.  The date is:  tomorrow, 10/21.  They aren't going to let any more time pass than necessary.  Both of the lower leg bones are broken at the ankle, and they are spreading apart, so it will take a plate, some screws, a cable, and probably a #3 Erector set to put Humpty Dumpty back together again.  😊

"...  a #3 Erector set to put Humpty Dumpty back together again." So your going to put that last phrase on her get well card ;)

If so, I guess this Grate Site will be sending you "Get well" posts. Just say'in.

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About six years ago I was in a gym class and the instructor told us to jog from the end to the gym and back. I put my foot down wrong and shredded (thank god it didn’t actually break) my Achilles’ tendon. I couldn’t walk right for a year and had to go through some serious physical therapy. Apparently the Achilles fuckup affects 5 percent of men aged 35-50! 

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My wife popped her achilles while doing the low impact option at a fitness class.  When she asked the orthopedic surgeon (who looked like he was about 14) what could have caused it he said "Oh you're just at that age" I don't think he realized how close he came to death.

 

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14 hours ago, Rick said:

"...  a #3 Erector set to put Humpty Dumpty back together again." So your going to put that last phrase on her get well card ;)

If so, I guess this Grate Site will be sending you "Get well" posts. Just say'in.

Oh, I used the phrase directly at her (it's not like she can chase me down at the moment).  I also told her I hoped the doc puts in a Zerk fitting this time* so I can keep the chassis greased.

 

*Long-running joke:  she is currently on her 7th right hip replacement.

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14 hours ago, Brian Kennedy said:

About six years ago I was in a gym class and the instructor told us to jog from the end to the gym and back. I put my foot down wrong and shredded (thank god it didn’t actually break) my Achilles’ tendon. I couldn’t walk right for a year and had to go through some serious physical therapy. Apparently the Achilles fuckup affects 5 percent of men aged 35-50! 

Well then, since I'm 60, noth' in to worry about :)

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