Stargrunt6 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Supreme court orders Orthodox church to be converted to a mosque: http://www.pravmir.com/turkey-converts-chora-church-into-mosque/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R011 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 So that story is about five hundred years old given the church had been converted to a mosque back in the 15th century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistral Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 So the Halkbank case ( money laundering for Iran) in the US is proceeding now that political winds seem to change. And the Sultans son in law / finance minister resigns for health reasons and deletes his Twitter account. Yesterday head of central bank sacked out of the blue 10 months after the last one was sacked by the sultan for raising interest rates. lira lost 40% this year vs usd and more vs euro. I think come Monday we will have a bit of commotion in the markets. I wonder if those 100 billion USD borrowed from commercial banks to support the lira will ever be seen by their owners and some Spanish and Italian banks with big stakes in local banks. https://www.courthousenews.com/second-circuit-advances-criminal-case-against-halkbank/?amp=1 https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-11-08/turkey-s-finance-minister-albayrak-resigns-citing-health-issues?__twitter_impression=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeOne Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Quote Turkey to declare 10 ambassadors 'persona non grata' 30m ago The move means 10 ambassadors — including those of Germany and the United States — are now just one step from expulsion after calling for the release of activist Osman Kavala. Ambassadors from 10 countries who appealed for the release of Turkish activist Osman Kavala are to be declared "persona non grata," President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said on Saturday. The designation is a diplomatic term that signifies the first step before expulsion. "I have ordered our foreign minister to declare these 10 ambassadors as persona non grata as soon as possible," Erdogan said. The Turkish Foreign Ministry summoned the ambassadors on Tuesday for what it said was an "irresponsible" statement. The envoys had issued a rare joint document that called for a speedy resolution to the case of the jailed civil society leader. Kavala has been in prison since late 2017, charged with financing protests in 2013, and taking part in a failed coup in 2016, which he denies. The ambassadors concerned are the Ankara representatives of the US, Germany, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, and Sweden. [...] https://m.dw.com/en/turkey-to-declare-10-ambassadors-persona-non-grata/a-59604866 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Tan Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickM Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, Simon Tan said: Excellent. I presume you're referring to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Tan Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 The shitfest in Ankara is win win win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn239 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Simon Tan said: The shitfest in Ankara is win win win. Unbelievable that they could lose Turkey. Presumably, the Balkans could follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistral Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 hour ago, glenn239 said: Unbelievable that they could lose Turkey. Presumably, the Balkans could follow. Turkey is gone for at least a decade, their politicians antiwestern rhetoric fully accepted by the people would make the Ayatolahs blush. The Balkans are safe. The Russians have nothing they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistral Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Will be fun to watch the lira exchange on Monday, a month ago it was 8.6 to the dollar, on Friday it was 9.6. I can not see them keeping with their "economic policies" until the elections in 2023, something has to give up. But who dares to say no to the Sultan. He fired 3 or 4 central bankers in 3 years. Official inflation is 20% and his is reducing interest rates to curb inflation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Tan Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 Same policies as DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeOne Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Oh well, never mind. Quote Turkey: Erdogan walks back threat to expel Western diplomats 1h ago After declaring 10 diplomats from Western countries "persona non grata" over their support of a civil society leader, it appears Turkish President Erdogan has changed his mind. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Monday backed down from a threat he made two days ago to eject 10 diplomats from Western countries after they voiced support for activist Osman Kavala. Kavala is a civil society leader and philanthropist who has been detained on charges of financing protests and involvement in an attempted coup in 2016. Erdogan said the envoys had issued a new statement on the matter, which he said "shows they have taken a step back from the slander against our country." "They will be more careful now," he added. Erdogan's change in attitude came after the United States and several other countries issued identical statements saying they respected a UN convention that says diplomats should not interfere in their host country's domestic affairs. [...] https://m.dw.com/en/turkey-erdogan-walks-back-threat-to-expel-western-diplomats/a-59621772 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn239 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 On 10/23/2021 at 1:08 PM, Mistral said: Turkey is gone for at least a decade, their politicians antiwestern rhetoric fully accepted by the people would make the Ayatolahs blush. The Balkans are safe. The Russians have nothing they want. Anytime in the past that the Russians have been given the opportunity to meddle in the Balkans, they've done it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Tan Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Meddle? The Russians are why the Balkans arent Albania. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Well, the old Austro-Hungarian Empire did a little, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistral Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 I think time is running out for the Sultan. It closed near 11.30 today, that 6 day record might not last long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 The Turkish lira must be in phenomenal shape to outrun the USD in the Inflation Olympics. Time to invest in wheelbarrow futures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Alymov Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 On 10/26/2021 at 3:58 AM, Simon Tan said: Meddle? The Russians are why the Balkans arent Albania. It is well forgotten now - ecactly as iot was predicted by Dostoyevsky back in 1877 https://russianuniverse.org/2015/02/25/dostoyevsky-on-slavs/Some Quite Special Remarks about the Slavs That I Intended to Make Long Ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim the Tank Nut Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 that is an interesting link. I'm glad you posted it. Some of the content may be a bit debatable but it's sort of prescient in it's own way. Fyodor was quite the clever lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 20 hours ago, Tim the Tank Nut said: that is an interesting link. I'm glad you posted it. Some of the content may be a bit debatable but it's sort of prescient in it's own way. Fyodor was quite the clever lad. I now know that FD is up there in the clouds in the Thinkers Cafe with Orwell, Verne, Hayek etc. wearing their "I told you melonfarmers!" T-shirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Yes, that could be a possible explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETAC21 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Erdogan not worried, believes he needs a bigger boat: https://www.memesita.com/turkey-is-considering-ordering-an-aircraft-carrier-and-a-submarine-from-navantia/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistral Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 32 minutes ago, RETAC21 said: Erdogan not worried, believes he needs a bigger boat: https://www.memesita.com/turkey-is-considering-ordering-an-aircraft-carrier-and-a-submarine-from-navantia/ Of course he does, he has big plans, half the Aegean islands are Turkish occupied territory... I wonder if we will have a Galtieri moment soon. Seems the Germans are dragging their feet with the U-214s and the Americans are flatly refusing to sell anything. There was a newsbit that they are now interested in the Danish F16As to replace the Block 30s and the F4s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistral Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 On 11/19/2021 at 8:04 PM, Mistral said: I think time is running out for the Sultan. It closed near 11.30 today, that 6 day record might not last long. Yep, from 11 to 12 liras in 3 days. Record smashed. Had a professor who used to say that it always amazed him how monetary crises are always so slow to get rolling even though all the signs are there for people to see, but how fast they move when they finally get started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bd1 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 On 11/20/2021 at 7:38 PM, Roman Alymov said: It is well forgotten now - ecactly as iot was predicted by Dostoyevsky back in 1877 https://russianuniverse.org/2015/02/25/dostoyevsky-on-slavs/Some Quite Special Remarks about the Slavs That I Intended to Make Long Ago. the last paragraph sums up exactly why we don´t want to be part of russia´s world . messianistic talk like this prophesizes rivers of blood . one for the ´why we fight´ folder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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