Culture Wars

[NickM]

2 hours ago, Murph said:

I agree

 

 

I would have preferred a used diaper pail or an overflowing septic  tank for an image 

Probably closer to reality, too

[JWB]

 

[JWB]

 

[17thfabn]

18 minutes ago, JWB said:

The U.S. is NOT stolen land. What were the natives doing living on our land before we got here?

[Ssnake]

10 hours ago, JWB said:

Harvard is not necessarily about getting a useful degree, but about a chance to get into the networks of the American upper class. Studying art history and philosophy in the 1970s was just as useless for most students back then as is the woke shit today, and still they somehow found a job.

These degrees are an outflow of the dominance of the managerial class where getting shit done plays second fiddle to the optimization of bureaucratic processes, as long as these processes are bbeing justified by established members of the bureacratic caste.

[Murph]

This:

 

[lucklucky]

5 hours ago, Ssnake said:

Harvard is not necessarily about getting a useful degree, but about a chance to get into the networks of the American upper class. Studying art history and philosophy in the 1970s was just as useless for most students back then as is the woke shit today, and still they somehow found a job.

These degrees are an outflow of the dominance of the managerial class where getting shit done plays second fiddle to the optimization of bureaucratic processes, as long as these processes are bbeing justified by established members of the bureacratic caste.

Don't you mean the complexification of bureaucratic processes?

[Ssnake]

No. From a bureaucrat's perspective, a more complex process is better. While individual members of the managerial class may still recognize the one or other complex process as dysfunctional, they will usually not question the very system that results in neverending complexification.

I don't want to push a conspiracy theory. The individual manager usually is somewhere on the spectrum between disinterested and eager, but within the administrative mindset and philosophy that justifies his own existence. And then he looks at things that aren't "properly regulated", so he starts looking for ways how loopholes in the existing regulation can be closed. This usually makes the process more complex, so the workload increases, and as a consequence more managers are needed; the bureaucracy is the self-licking ice cone that is constantly one drip behind and seeks to address the probblem by pushing for a bigger tongue without realizing that it also needs a bigger cone to support it.

[rmgill]

Pournelle's Iron Law of Buracracy. 

[lucklucky]

1 hour ago, Ssnake said:

No. From a bureaucrat's perspective, a more complex process is better. While individual members of the managerial class may still recognize the one or other complex process as dysfunctional, they will usually not question the very system that results in neverending complexification.

I don't want to push a conspiracy theory. The individual manager usually is somewhere on the spectrum between disinterested and eager, but within the administrative mindset and philosophy that justifies his own existence. And then he looks at things that aren't "properly regulated", so he starts looking for ways how loopholes in the existing regulation can be closed. This usually makes the process more complex, so the workload increases, and as a consequence more managers are needed; the bureaucracy is the self-licking ice cone that is constantly one drip behind and seeks to address the probblem by pushing for a bigger tongue without realizing that it also needs a bigger cone to support it.

No? Well that is what i said, the bureaucracy need more and more complexity to have more departments for the boss to  put more people under him so his level can go up in the administrative hierarchy. The incentive is for bureaucracy to  increase to infinite. Thank god for the lazy bureaucrats that prefer to stand still.

[JWB]

13 hours ago, lucklucky said:

.............. bureaucracy need more and more complexity to have more departments for the boss to  put more people under him so his level can go up in the administrative hierarchy.

Feather bedding. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Featherbedding

[lucklucky]

26 minutes ago, JWB said:

Feather bedding. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Featherbedding

Thanks, did not know the term.

[urbanoid]

 

[Murph]

Notice it is always women who write those articles, and they are always woke pro DEI (Didn't Earn It) types.

[Ssnake]

It gives them power over others that they couldn't achieve through competence.

[Murph]

2 hours ago, Ssnake said:

It gives them power over others that they couldn't achieve through competence.

Good point.

[Murph]

This:

 

[Stuart Galbraith]

 

[rmgill]

And with the nature of the DEI/Critical theory pervasiveness, they are. It's even in their own damn papers and books. 

[Murph]

7 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

 

He is completely correct, sad to say.

[JWB]

 

[JWB]

17 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

 

 

[rmgill]

Don’t you know that castrating depressed people with sexual frustrations solves that issue? 

[rmgill]

Oh. This likely belongs here. 
 

 

[Murph]

This, I mean they have a point: