JWB Posted July 17, 2023 Posted July 17, 2023 Documentary Argues Bible References to Homosexuality Are Mistranslations (msn.com)
R011 Posted July 17, 2023 Posted July 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, JWB said: Documentary Argues Bible References to Homosexuality Are Mistranslations (msn.com) Occam's Razor would suggest that something apparently homophobic and misogynist written by people of a culture that was homophobic and misogynist means what it says.
LT Ducky Posted July 17, 2023 Posted July 17, 2023 RE: stealing the rainbow…..how about these guys….. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/42nd_Infantry_Division_(United_States)
17thfabn Posted July 17, 2023 Posted July 17, 2023 The U.S. Army 45th Infantry Division wants their bent cross patch back.
lucklucky Posted July 18, 2023 Posted July 18, 2023 2 hours ago, LT Ducky said: RE: stealing the rainbow…..how about these guys….. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/42nd_Infantry_Division_(United_States) Nice.
seahawk Posted July 18, 2023 Posted July 18, 2023 13 hours ago, R011 said: Occam's Razor would suggest that something apparently homophobic and misogynist written by people of a culture that was homophobic and misogynist means what it says. Was it? You can not deny the Greek and Roman influence in the area and both were quite open to homosexuality.
urbanoid Posted July 18, 2023 Posted July 18, 2023 5 hours ago, seahawk said: Was it? You can not deny the Greek and Roman influence in the area and both were quite open to homosexuality. Even in their case I'd say we should note a difference between a 'homosexual lifestyle' and 'merely' boinking other guys on the side, in addition to 'normalcy', i.e. wife, kids etc. We also wouldn't equate Ernst Rohm and some effeminate twink faggot with rainbow accessories, eh? Might be similar at least among some muslims, like those Afghans with their bacha bazi. They rationalized that their religion forbids them from 'homosexual lifestyle', but not boinking. Of course in case of bacha bazi they are not just fags, but straight up pedos and child abusers. A friend of mine, a journalist and blogger, once coined the term 'Nazi-gays' for one group (and used it retroactively, hence Alexander the Great became a Nazi gay ) and 'whining fairies' for the other one.
seahawk Posted July 18, 2023 Posted July 18, 2023 Sure it was more along the line of penetrator - penetrated, but as long as you were the penetrator sex with other males was acceptable. What we today call homosexual lifestyle is modern invention of liberals, paedophiles and cross dressers. I know a few gay couples that deeply despise this. But they also have no interest in telling people about their queer lifestyle.
rmgill Posted July 18, 2023 Posted July 18, 2023 Note some of the points made by DouglasMurray on this whole LGBT community…
urbanoid Posted July 18, 2023 Posted July 18, 2023 51 minutes ago, seahawk said: Sure it was more along the line of penetrator - penetrated, but as long as you were the penetrator sex with other males was acceptable. What we today call homosexual lifestyle is modern invention of liberals, paedophiles and cross dressers. I know a few gay couples that deeply despise this. But they also have no interest in telling people about their queer lifestyle. When it comes to those Afghans what I meant by 'homosexual lifestyle' is that they don't consider living one as long as they have wife and kids etc. In the West where homosexuality is legal and more or less accepted there's another divide, especially among gay men - those that want to be a part of a couple and just living with another guy like... man and man and those that fuck or get fucked by anything that moves, scoring hundreds/thousands sexual partners. In Poland we have one guy who started as a blogger/fb personality (he lived in Germany at the time and has moved back to Poland since then) and later also became sort of right(ish) wing journalist. He spoke against a lot of things in the so-called 'LGBT community' which of course caused quite a lot of lefties/liberals to have a meltdown, especially twitter activist 'Julki'* (diminutive of 'Julias' in plural), I saw one of them saying that he's not actually gay, just a 'man-that-sleeps-with-other-man', because he doesn't embrace the 'lifestyle' and isn't on board with the 'progressive' causes. Other things that he also doesn't support are for example third world immigration - which apart from universal reasons is an even more sensible position for a Western homosexual, as those immigrants tend to come from very homophobic cultures - as in 'kill-the-fag homophobic', not 'call-him-a fag homophobic'. *mostly teenage/early 20s girls who swallowed the whole 'progressive' bullshit straight from the US hook, line and sinker, put BLM, rainbow and troon flags in bio and engage in 'activism' filled with wildest rationalizations.
Colin Posted July 18, 2023 Posted July 18, 2023 I know a number of gays who I will call normal, as in the fact they are gay is only one small part of who they are. They are just like you and me except for their partner. They aren't interested in pushing it on anyone, wearing it wrapped around to show off and not interested in kids or exposing kids to the lifestyle. They also stopped going to "gay resorts" because the lack of morals they observed. Basically they are loyal to their partner and not boinking anyone they can. They also don't attend Pride parades.
seahawk Posted July 18, 2023 Posted July 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, urbanoid said: When it comes to those Afghans what I meant by 'homosexual lifestyle' is that they don't consider living one as long as they have wife and kids etc. In the West where homosexuality is legal and more or less accepted there's another divide, especially among gay men - those that want to be a part of a couple and just living with another guy like... man and man and those that fuck or get fucked by anything that moves, scoring hundreds/thousands sexual partners. In Poland we have one guy who started as a blogger/fb personality (he lived in Germany at the time and has moved back to Poland since then) and later also became sort of right(ish) wing journalist. He spoke against a lot of things in the so-called 'LGBT community' which of course caused quite a lot of lefties/liberals to have a meltdown, especially twitter activist 'Julki'* (diminutive of 'Julias' in plural), I saw one of them saying that he's not actually gay, just a 'man-that-sleeps-with-other-man', because he doesn't embrace the 'lifestyle' and isn't on board with the 'progressive' causes. Other things that he also doesn't support are for example third world immigration - which apart from universal reasons is an even more sensible position for a Western homosexual, as those immigrants tend to come from very homophobic cultures - as in 'kill-the-fag homophobic', not 'call-him-a fag homophobic'. *mostly teenage/early 20s girls who swallowed the whole 'progressive' bullshit straight from the US hook, line and sinker, put BLM, rainbow and troon flags in bio and engage in 'activism' filled with wildest rationalizations. Fully agree. I have often heard, that they think that the whole pride movement has been taken over by paedophiles and perverts. They always say, that all they wanted is for the government to get out of their private lives, not for their private lives becoming a part of the government policies. Imho the aggressive queer movement is run by leftists, that only use it as an instrument to install more government control over the people and their opinions.
lucklucky Posted July 18, 2023 Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) Quote Former commander of USAF Civil Air Patrol: 'Stop hiring middle-aged white people, especially dudes that are pilots' https://www.theblaze.com/news/former-commander-of-usaf-civil-air-patrol-stop-hiring-middle-aged-white-people-especially-dudes-that-are-pilots https://redstate.com/jimthompson/2023/07/17/air-force-colonel-encapsulates-what-is-important-white-men-need-not-apply-n777885 Edited July 18, 2023 by lucklucky
lucklucky Posted July 19, 2023 Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/18/nigel-farage-coutts-bank-account-closed-align-with-values/ Quote Nigel Farage’s bank accounts were closed down after Coutts decided that his views “do not align with our values”, documents obtained by the former Ukip leader show. A reputational risk committee “exited” Mr Farage after considering a dossier detailing his comments about Brexit, his friendship with Donald Trump and his views on LGBT rights among many reasons he was not “compatible with Coutts”. The background briefing paper even made reference to Mr Farage’s friendship with Novak Djokovic, the former Wimbledon champion, as evidence that he was not as “inclusive” as the bank. Quote Earlier this month, the BBC and the Financial Times reported claims that the reason Mr Farage’s accounts were closed was that they fell below the financial threshold required by the bank. The BBC quoted sources “familiar with” the Coutts decision. Yet in the 40 pages of documents released to Mr Farage after he made a subject access request to Coutts, the bank repeatedly says he “meets the EC [economic contribution] criteria for commercial retention”. Writing for The Telegraph, Mr Farage accuses the private bank of “lying” about the real reason he was cut off, saying the documents show that the decision was politically driven. He describes the file as a “Stasi-style surveillance report” and notes that the word Brexit appears in the report 86 times – which, he says, “perhaps tells us all we need to know”. Edited July 19, 2023 by lucklucky
lucklucky Posted July 19, 2023 Posted July 19, 2023 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/18/alison-rose-steered-coutts-diversity-drive-nigel-farage/ Quote Dame Alison Rose: the bank boss who steered Coutts’ diversity drive The chief executive of NatWest has overseen a pivot towards saving the planet and LGBT rights since taking the helm
JWB Posted July 19, 2023 Posted July 19, 2023 Female military recruit, 18, considered quitting after she was forced to shower with transgender women who had not undergone full medical reassignment surgery - and was too afraid to complain in case it harmed her career (msn.com)
R011 Posted July 19, 2023 Posted July 19, 2023 17 hours ago, lucklucky said: https://www.theblaze.com/news/former-commander-of-usaf-civil-air-patrol-stop-hiring-middle-aged-white-people-especially-dudes-that-are-pilots https://redstate.com/jimthompson/2023/07/17/air-force-colonel-encapsulates-what-is-important-white-men-need-not-apply-n777885 It may be that his remarks were taken out of context, but if the CAP is predominately White, middle-aged pilots it may be because of retired air force and commercial pilots will tend to be middle aged and are mostly White. The solution is to encourage women and people of colour to apply to be pilots and to improve family lives and education so that more inner city kids are qualified. As the last part of that solution is utopian, then they can either live with a disproportionately White demographic or let in unqualified people to fill a quota and wonder why things are going to shit.
Ssnake Posted July 19, 2023 Posted July 19, 2023 I don't think they are concerned with things going to shit. By the time that it happens, the current decision-makers will have moved into new jobs. They will never be held accountable for any of their stupidity.
urbanoid Posted July 19, 2023 Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, R011 said: It may be that his remarks were taken out of context, but if the CAP is predominately White, middle-aged pilots it may be because of retired air force and commercial pilots will tend to be middle aged and are mostly White. The solution is to encourage women and people of colour to apply to be pilots and to improve family lives and education so that more inner city kids are qualified. As the last part of that solution is utopian, then they can either live with a disproportionately White demographic or let in unqualified people to fill a quota and wonder why things are going to shit. It's not utopian, it's anti-white.
R011 Posted July 19, 2023 Posted July 19, 2023 2 hours ago, urbanoid said: It's not utopian, it's anti-white. How is improving familiy life and education in the inner cities anti-White?
urbanoid Posted July 19, 2023 Posted July 19, 2023 25 minutes ago, R011 said: How is improving familiy life and education in the inner cities anti-White? Whining about white 'overrepresentation' and solutions where the INTENDED result are certain areas being 'less white' is anti-white. If it happened naturally, no problem - the not problematic example would be the Asian overrepresentation in some fields (for example in the US), they achieved that through hard work and the culture that emphasizes it. There were no government solutions to make those Asians more represented, OTOH the affirmative action for 'Tyrone from da hood' was hurting whites as well as Asians, the daddy government's doing. If you didn't have to encourage some Huang to get the education than you don't need to do it for Tyrone and Shaqueesha either. Solutions to make certain fields less white are as retarded as 'parities' saying you need x% of women as board members or whatever.
lucklucky Posted July 19, 2023 Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, R011 said: How is improving familiy life and education in the inner cities anti-White? oh so attacking white people for being white is not anti white...
R011 Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, lucklucky said: oh so attacking white people for being white is not anti white... Who's attacking people for being White? I'm just proposing how one can increase opportunities for people who aren't. Inner city American schools are absolute shit. A big part of that and the general inability of the people from there to contribute to society is disfunctional families. "Tyrone from da hood" should be as able to compete on his own merits as the immigrant kids who came frpom theose neighbourhoods decades ago. Right now he can't and that's a wsate of human resources.
Ivanhoe Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 Affirmative Action has empowered libs to spackle over the effects of policy on crime, education, and personal values.
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