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On 11/27/2021 at 1:28 AM, lucklucky said:

Notre Dame Cathedral being disneyfied...or  worse...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10246695/Notre-Dame-turned-woke-theme-park.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/11/26/notre-dame-risks-becoming-woke-disneyland-controversial-renovation/

Well after Anglicans i guess now it is the Catholics time to not believe in God anymore...

 

 

Daaaaamn, on target.

 

Such a shame that they are doing that to Notre Dame.  It all but sends a message that destroying cultural landmarks works for the goals of secularists.

Still waiting for the inevitable schism in the Catholic Church . . .

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There is another SOKOL type academic paper 'test' out there that has punked another academic paper mill. The Higher Education Quarterly, was easily snowed by a paper entitled, Donor money and the academy: "Perceptions of undue donor pressure in political science, economics, and philosophy.” The gist is that the paper showed how academic institutions were unduly swayed by conservative donor money. The study authors purported to have surveyed 2000 academic faculty and administrators but kept the responses blind from their identities to protect their safety and then clearly stated that they could not replicated the results due to that blind fire walling of the respondents and their responses.
 
This was all fine and apparently good for publication as an example of peer review material. The study authors, purport to be Sage Owens and Kal Avers-Lynde III. That spells out SOKOL III. Sage Owens has asked on her twitter feed, "Can you find the other 15?"

I think
Peter Boghossian, James A. Lindsay, and Helen Pluckrose have been at it again. 
 
 
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2 hours ago, rmgill said:
There is another SOKOL type academic paper 'test' out there that has punked another academic paper mill. The Higher Education Quarterly, was easily snowed by a paper entitled, Donor money and the academy: "Perceptions of undue donor pressure in political science, economics, and philosophy.” The gist is that the paper showed how academic institutions were unduly swayed by conservative donor money. The study authors purported to have surveyed 2000 academic faculty and administrators but kept the responses blind from their identities to protect their safety and then clearly stated that they could not replicated the results due to that blind fire walling of the respondents and their responses.
 
This was all fine and apparently good for publication as an example of peer review material. The study authors, purport to be Sage Owens and Kal Avers-Lynde III. That spells out SOKOL III. Sage Owens has asked on her twitter feed, "Can you find the other 15?"

I think
Peter Boghossian, James A. Lindsay, and Helen Pluckrose have been at it again. 
 
 

On the margin is a story on The crime problem in the twin cities==to which I say, 'Hah, F/k 'em!'

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Mostly, but for some special circumstances, the details of which I have no memory anymore.

In practical terms, it means that defaulting borrowers have their tax refunds seized.   I believe their paychecks can be garnished--assuming they have any above a floor amount.  IIRC, lottery winnings are also up for grabs.  Perhaps the most serious penalty is the inability to draw further Title IV Financial Aid until they enter Repayment and also make good any outstanding debts to schools.

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51 minutes ago, Steven P Allen said:

Mostly, but for some special circumstances, the details of which I have no memory anymore.

In practical terms, it means that defaulting borrowers have their tax refunds seized.   I believe their paychecks can be garnished--assuming they have any above a floor amount.  IIRC, lottery winnings are also up for grabs.  Perhaps the most serious penalty is the inability to draw further Title IV Financial Aid until they enter Repayment and also make good any outstanding debts to schools.

 

Gotta admire the lobbying might some industries can muster.

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21 minutes ago, Mikel2 said:

 

Gotta admire the lobbying might some industries can muster.

On the other hand.... Imagine if a college grad could go bankrupt and avoid their student loans.

Most people coming out of college don't have a lot of assets.

Even if you went to a state school and got a sensible degree you could still owe $100,000. At Ohio State room and board and tuition is $25,000 a year for an in state student.

Take a 22 year old who has just graduated with a useful degree and owes $100,000 in student loans. They are starting a new life and career as anything other than a barista at starbucks.  

The only assets they have is a 2008 corolla with 150,000 miles on it. If they could it would only be logical for them to go bankrupt. They would probably even be able to keep the car.  

Virtually every student would be incentivized to run up big student loans if they knew they could walk away from them. 

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Unless they borrow from non-title IV sources, undergrads cannot borrow $100,000.  Including Subsidized and Unsubsidized, the limit is $57,500.  Not chump change, certainly, but a student has to go to grad school to hit 6 figures.

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4 hours ago, 17thfabn said:

On the other hand.... Imagine if a college grad could go bankrupt and avoid their student loans.

Most people coming out of college don't have a lot of assets.

Even if you went to a state school and got a sensible degree you could still owe $100,000. At Ohio State room and board and tuition is $25,000 a year for an in state student.

Take a 22 year old who has just graduated with a useful degree and owes $100,000 in student loans. They are starting a new life and career as anything other than a barista at starbucks.  

The only assets they have is a 2008 corolla with 150,000 miles on it. If they could it would only be logical for them to go bankrupt. They would probably even be able to keep the car.  

Virtually every student would be incentivized to run up big student loans if they knew they could walk away from them. 

Or then again, banks would be less willing to lend to students and universities might have to reduce tuition to affordable levels.

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2 hours ago, Steven P Allen said:

Unless they borrow from non-title IV sources, undergrads cannot borrow $100,000.  Including Subsidized and Unsubsidized, the limit is $57,500. 

There is a big increase in masters and higher programs. Physical therapists are now a doctorate degree, 20 years ago it was a bachelors program. 

And of course lawyers go through the equivalent of a masters program.  

Regardless of the amount. If you could walk away from a student loan by declaring bankruptcy, a large number of people with little in the way of assets would take advantage of it. You would see and hear ads from lawyers specializing in handling bankruptcy cases for student loans. 

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