Dawes Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Is this a recent upgrade? https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2020/05/11/t90m-main-battle-tank/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTK Ciar Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 It's the first I've heard of it. Redesigning the autoloader and putting the ammo in a turret bustle seems like a pretty big deal, as does dropping the IR dazzlers from Shtora and giving the commander panoramic night vision.They're not saying how much the upgrade weighs or how much power the new engine puts out, but the overtdefense article linked from that one implies the horsepower/ton might be about the same as before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Tan Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) Does not have a bustle autoloader. The bustle has 'stuff' and loadsa .50 cal. Edited May 13, 2020 by Simon Tan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interlinked Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 It's the first I've heard of it. Redesigning the autoloader and putting the ammo in a turret bustle seems like a pretty big deal, as does dropping the IR dazzlers from Shtora and giving the commander panoramic night vision. They're not saying how much the upgrade weighs or how much power the new engine puts out, but the overtdefense article linked from that one implies the horsepower/ton might be about the same as before.Strange that you haven't heard of it. It's quite a major new development. It's got a new turret, but keeps the same autoloader (with additional armour). The ammo in the bustle is just a reserve supply. It is not accessible from inside the tank, and it's just stored in a thinly armoured bin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Yeah I read up on it when I was doing an Armored Brigade mod (really must finish that). Its the same gun as they have on Armata,the 2A82, which theoretically give it the ability to penetrate an Abrams. (But clearly not a Challenger 2, whose armoured is stuffed with the enchanted feathers of an aylesbury duck, or so I hear). From little I was able to find, I think the front of the turret is original, and they put in a bigger bustle to give room for the autoloader to load longer rod penetrators. Bit like a Sherman Firefly if thats true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiedzmin Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 it doesn't have 2A82 gun, 2A46M5 or sometimes called 2A46M6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Well that invalidates 90 percent of everything ive read about it then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KV7 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Is this an entirely new turret, or a re engineered T90A turret? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interlinked Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 It's entirely new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KV7 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawes Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 Looks like the T-90 series is turning into a very expensive tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawes Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 T-90MS walkaround. I do like the desert splinter camo scheme: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manic Moran Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Binocular night vision for the driver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawes Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 Looks like there are even a few model kits on the market: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiedzmin Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Binocular night vision for the driver?thermal camera + low level tv IIRC, there was some attempts to make serial driver vision block with optic+tv+thermal, or external camera's like on 90MS, but Russian MOD "lol thats to expensive" ​TVN-10 was one of this attempts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Tan Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 The cameras are absent on the units delivered to the Taman division. Maybe they were nice to have but not considered essential? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiedzmin Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 The cameras are absent on the units delivered to the Taman division. Maybe they were nice to have but not considered essential?Russian Army never gets anything "expensive" 90M itself is a very shitty designed "modernization", as any other RA MoD mod pack for any tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty_Zuk Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Yeah I read up on it when I was doing an Armored Brigade mod (really must finish that). Its the same gun as they have on Armata,the 2A82, which theoretically give it the ability to penetrate an Abrams. (But clearly not a Challenger 2, whose armoured is stuffed with the enchanted feathers of an aylesbury duck, or so I hear). From little I was able to find, I think the front of the turret is original, and they put in a bigger bustle to give room for the autoloader to load longer rod penetrators. Bit like a Sherman Firefly if thats true.Other than Wiedzmin's comment on the gun, the autoloader is still the same carousel loader. The turret bustle contains additional ammo that can only be accessed manually from outside the tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Yes im fully able to accept that, except a lot of what I learned was coming off Russian Defence.net IIRC. I guess I should know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawes Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 Any foreign sales of this particular variant yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawes Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 From what I gather, the T-90MS is no threat to continued T-14 development/production? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Tan Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 It is a gap filler on the UVZ production line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GARGEAN Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 (edited) Looks like the T-90 series is turning into a very expensive tank.By scarce info available it's still much cheaper than western proposals and cheaper than VT-4.As for exports - there were words about recent Indian contract on 464 T-90 being 90SM variant, but no hard confirmation yet. Edited May 14, 2020 by GARGEAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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