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It's the first I've heard of it. Redesigning the autoloader and putting the ammo in a turret bustle seems like a pretty big deal, as does dropping the IR dazzlers from Shtora and giving the commander panoramic night vision.

They're not saying how much the upgrade weighs or how much power the new engine puts out, but the overtdefense article linked from that one implies the horsepower/ton might be about the same as before.

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It's the first I've heard of it. Redesigning the autoloader and putting the ammo in a turret bustle seems like a pretty big deal, as does dropping the IR dazzlers from Shtora and giving the commander panoramic night vision.

 

They're not saying how much the upgrade weighs or how much power the new engine puts out, but the overtdefense article linked from that one implies the horsepower/ton might be about the same as before.

Strange that you haven't heard of it. It's quite a major new development.

 

It's got a new turret, but keeps the same autoloader (with additional armour). The ammo in the bustle is just a reserve supply. It is not accessible from inside the tank, and it's just stored in a thinly armoured bin.

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Yeah I read up on it when I was doing an Armored Brigade mod (really must finish that). Its the same gun as they have on Armata,the 2A82, which theoretically give it the ability to penetrate an Abrams. (But clearly not a Challenger 2, whose armoured is stuffed with the enchanted feathers of an aylesbury duck, or so I hear).

 

From little I was able to find, I think the front of the turret is original, and they put in a bigger bustle to give room for the autoloader to load longer rod penetrators. Bit like a Sherman Firefly if thats true.

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Binocular night vision for the driver?

thermal camera + low level tv IIRC, there was some attempts to make serial driver vision block with optic+tv+thermal, or external camera's like on 90MS, but Russian MOD "lol thats to expensive"

 

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TVN-10 was one of this attempts

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The cameras are absent on the units delivered to the Taman division. Maybe they were nice to have but not considered essential?

Russian Army never gets anything "expensive" 90M itself is a very shitty designed "modernization", as any other RA MoD mod pack for any tank.

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Yeah I read up on it when I was doing an Armored Brigade mod (really must finish that). Its the same gun as they have on Armata,the 2A82, which theoretically give it the ability to penetrate an Abrams. (But clearly not a Challenger 2, whose armoured is stuffed with the enchanted feathers of an aylesbury duck, or so I hear).

 

From little I was able to find, I think the front of the turret is original, and they put in a bigger bustle to give room for the autoloader to load longer rod penetrators. Bit like a Sherman Firefly if thats true.

Other than Wiedzmin's comment on the gun, the autoloader is still the same carousel loader. The turret bustle contains additional ammo that can only be accessed manually from outside the tank.

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Looks like the T-90 series is turning into a very expensive tank.

By scarce info available it's still much cheaper than western proposals and cheaper than VT-4.

As for exports - there were words about recent Indian contract on 464 T-90 being 90SM variant, but no hard confirmation yet.

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