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There are many articles like this one, most give similar advice. Two weeks of non perishable food, an extended supply of any prescription meds, etc.

 

https://theprepared.com/wuhan-coronavirus/

 

Doctors, insurance companies and pharmacies won't prescribe drugs past a certain limit. We get 3 month supplies from the mail order pharmacy our insurance company makes us use but we can't get another three months until we're almost out of the last three months. There's no way to stock up. It's actually caused issues with running out from time to time if the doctor fails to renew the prescription in time.

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Warren genuinely seems like the sort of "will somebody please think of the children" type. So that would be at least one that wouldn't fit your broad brush. I don't think Josh would either.

The sick freaks relish the use of victimized children to further their political agenda. It's what they do. As for my "broad" brush, when leftists start chastising each other for their scare tactics and desire to see harm as a means to an end, I'll put my broad brush away.

I could imagine Biden or Tom grinning in the back about getting new ammunition to use against Trump. But still I do not see Warren being that type. But in the reverse, Trump would grin as well if such usable material came about. Bloomberg probably would to.

 

What in the world ever gave you that idea about Warren? She's a total phony.

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A core part of the problem, just like AIDS, is that a wicked segment of the population always attempts to amorally profit off the crisis. So instead of behaving rationally, and isolating the problem population until it burns itself out, as could have been easily done with AIDS, this group shamelessly and uncaringly works to monetize it.

 

Of course, this is the same reason "we" have this insistence on cheapest shit possible without regard for the contingent effects thereof, because these people have successfully isolated themselves from the costs while collecting the profits. S/F....Ken M

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Listening to the CDC briefing right now, quite unsettling. The situation with the test kits might blow up in their face pretty bad in the coming days.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jpOXxMCRUc&feature=emb_title

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Turns out a lot of our pharmaceuticals that were developed here, sold to the ROW at pennies on the dollar (who turn around and exclaim how cheap universal healthcare is) and sold to Americans at up upcharge premium...

...are made in China.

Quelle surprise, there's a shortage.


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I am told by pharmacists of my acquaintance that lot of the active ingredients in many major medicines are exclusively (or close to it) manufactured in China, even where the finished package (pill, liquid, cream) might be put together somewhere else, so expect shortages from mid-March until the manufacturing gap is closed.

 

As Italy is showing, the tests themselves are either not all that reliable or require more training and discipline to administer correctly than they are getting from the likely overworked personnel using them.

 

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There are many articles like this one, most give similar advice. Two weeks of non perishable food, an extended supply of any prescription meds, etc.

 

https://theprepared.com/wuhan-coronavirus/

 

Doctors, insurance companies and pharmacies won't prescribe drugs past a certain limit. We get 3 month supplies from the mail order pharmacy our insurance company makes us use but we can't get another three months until we're almost out of the last three months. There's no way to stock up. It's actually caused issues with running out from time to time if the doctor fails to renew the prescription in time.

 

It may be possible to get an early fill authorized, although my mail order pharmacy is pretty good at sending a new 90 day supply about 3 weeks before I actually run out so depending where I am in the cycle I'm pretty well stocked up.

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A New York Times article about a Mid Western Conservative, Christian leader :glare: Yea, right. Morality and prayer go hand-in-hand for Christians. Let me help you out; no choosing drugs, no need for needle exchange. Abstinence works every time it is tried.

 

Bristol Palin would like to have a word with you about abstinence. :D

But she didn't abstain and got pregnant. So Rick's still right.

 

I read that article. The left has a hard time convincing me it isn't anti Christian. And guess what? After praying he changed his mind.

 

Also I was in that county almost a year after that epidemic. A house on the main highway was flying an SS flag. Saw a KKK flag in the backyard of another house. To say it is a deeply troubled place is an understatement.

 

Re Rx meds, depends. My doc rx my nexium for a year. I rx myself my asthma meds for that time too.

 

Re HIV now that there's PReP, new infection HIV rates are decreasing among gay men But gay men are eschewing condoms, so the other STDs are kncreasing, including MDR-gonorrhea.

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I can't believe that they can't find the missing link between the Solano country patient and any person with the virus. The Solano mall is 4 miles from Travis AFB where a number of virus patients were taken. Who knows how close this person's residence is from the AFB? Could some waste paper blow over to their house? Could ice from the plane drop out of the sky on them?

 

Maybe they do know how it was transferred but they are protecting the ass of the person who ordered the patients be brought to Travis.

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There are many articles like this one, most give similar advice. Two weeks of non perishable food, an extended supply of any prescription meds, etc.

 

https://theprepared.com/wuhan-coronavirus/

 

Doctors, insurance companies and pharmacies won't prescribe drugs past a certain limit. We get 3 month supplies from the mail order pharmacy our insurance company makes us use but we can't get another three months until we're almost out of the last three months. There's no way to stock up. It's actually caused issues with running out from time to time if the doctor fails to renew the prescription in time.

 

We are a bit luckier. Firstly we are not restricted in our choice of doctor or pharmacist. We also know our local pharmacist very well (it is almost a village situation somehow). If we are unable to get a script for regular medications the pharmacist will still issue them and we get the script later. This of course is not for heavy pain killers, sedatives or antibiotics.

 

The medical practice that we use also lets us call and ask a doctor to fax (yes, old tech) a script to that pharmacy as well if necessary.

 

Our hospital emergency rooms are at no cost (but long waits often) so it isn't as if there is not medical treatment available. Lastly, there is a private company that provides home visit services billing the universal health insurance system for after hours services (so works out cheaper in the system than the emergency room). The doctors carry the basics of many medications (not narcotics) to get someone through until they can get to a pharmacy or their own doctor usually within 48 hours. I had a badly infected tooth one Sunday - pain started around 10.00am, had gone up my face towards my eye by 4:00pm. Apart from dental treatment I needed antibiotics which I was able to get that day.

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China Begins Disinfecting Cash in an Attempt to Contain Coronavirus Money must be treated and stored for two weeks before banks can reissue the currency.

Then there are shipping boxes. And for snail mail saliva used to seal the letter. Luckily these days stamps come with adhesive.

Fact that there is no general policy of disinfecting money periodically was always mind boggling to me, considering how big vector it can be in disease transmission. And it is not that would be expensive, ethylene oxide is cheap as dirt.

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Warren genuinely seems like the sort of "will somebody please think of the children" type. So that would be at least one that wouldn't fit your broad brush. I don't think Josh would either.

 

The sick freaks relish the use of victimized children to further their political agenda. It's what they do. As for my "broad" brush, when leftists start chastising each other for their scare tactics and desire to see harm as a means to an end, I'll put my broad brush away.

I could imagine Biden or Tom grinning in the back about getting new ammunition to use against Trump. But still I do not see Warren being that type. But in the reverse, Trump would grin as well if such usable material came about. Bloomberg probably would to.

What in the world ever gave you that idea about Warren? She's a total phony.

If you thought that my view was important, then you would have provided more substance. But instead, just another dry one liner. At least no eye rolling this time though. Impact is lost when it just becomes a noticable pattern.

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A couple of things spring to mind.

 

Masks are actually most effective if they're worn by the people with the infection, so they don't spray as many droplets about through sneezing or coughing. In that case, it doesn't matter about perfect seals or eye protection. train yourself to not sneeze or cough into someone else's face, or at likely touch surfaces like tables. All of these things help reduce the risk of you infecting someone if you've got it.

 

Personal hygiene has been highlighted - if you don't know how to wash your hands properly, learn. Stop poking your face, especially rubbing your eyes, or putting your fingers in your mouth.

 

Oh, and buckle up for a full-on recession. I've been planning retirement in a couple of years, based on the expected growth of my pension schemes. I'm just about ready to throw those plans out of the window. I estimate that each day our the stock markets drop by 3% is costing me a year's extra labour if this doesn't stabilise and recover soon. I am not best pleased with pangolin-eating(*) Chinese dumbasses right now.

 

* Or whatever it was they did this time.

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A couple of things spring to mind.

 

Masks are actually most effective if they're worn by the people with the infection, so they don't spray as many droplets about through sneezing or coughing. In that case, it doesn't matter about perfect seals or eye protection. train yourself to not sneeze or cough into someone else's face, or at likely touch surfaces like tables. All of these things help reduce the risk of you infecting someone if you've got it.

 

Personal hygiene has been highlighted - if you don't know how to wash your hands properly, learn. Stop poking your face, especially rubbing your eyes, or putting your fingers in your mouth.

 

Oh, and buckle up for a full-on recession. I've been planning retirement in a couple of years, based on the expected growth of my pension schemes. I'm just about ready to throw those plans out of the window. I estimate that each day our the stock markets drop by 3% is costing me a year's extra labour if this doesn't stabilise and recover soon. I am not best pleased with pangolin-eating(*) Chinese dumbasses right now.

 

* Or whatever it was they did this time.

 

This is no different than any other correction, just a little quicker. Your plan should take into consideration natural market moves like this or it's not ready for prime time as a correction per year and a bear market every 3-5 years is perfectly normal over time. If this ends up being the mythical crash that never comes back then no retirement plan would survive unless it's canned food, ammunition and assless chaps. Sequence of returns is always a consideration and should be covered by having enough wiggle room in your plan.

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There are many articles like this one, most give similar advice. Two weeks of non perishable food, an extended supply of any prescription meds, etc.

 

https://theprepared.com/wuhan-coronavirus/

 

Doctors, insurance companies and pharmacies won't prescribe drugs past a certain limit. We get 3 month supplies from the mail order pharmacy our insurance company makes us use but we can't get another three months until we're almost out of the last three months. There's no way to stock up. It's actually caused issues with running out from time to time if the doctor fails to renew the prescription in time.

 

We are a bit luckier. Firstly we are not restricted in our choice of doctor or pharmacist. We also know our local pharmacist very well (it is almost a village situation somehow). If we are unable to get a script for regular medications the pharmacist will still issue them and we get the script later. This of course is not for heavy pain killers, sedatives or antibiotics.

 

The medical practice that we use also lets us call and ask a doctor to fax (yes, old tech) a script to that pharmacy as well if necessary.

 

Our hospital emergency rooms are at no cost (but long waits often) so it isn't as if there is not medical treatment available. Lastly, there is a private company that provides home visit services billing the universal health insurance system for after hours services (so works out cheaper in the system than the emergency room). The doctors carry the basics of many medications (not narcotics) to get someone through until they can get to a pharmacy or their own doctor usually within 48 hours. I had a badly infected tooth one Sunday - pain started around 10.00am, had gone up my face towards my eye by 4:00pm. Apart from dental treatment I needed antibiotics which I was able to get that day.

 

 

If we need something short term and/or immediately, we can use our local pharmacy. I can choose my own doctor, I've seen the same one for over 30 years.

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I can't believe that they can't find the missing link between the Solano country patient and any person with the virus. The Solano mall is 4 miles from Travis AFB where a number of virus patients were taken. Who knows how close this person's residence is from the AFB? Could some waste paper blow over to their house? Could ice from the plane drop out of the sky on them?

 

Maybe they do know how it was transferred but they are protecting the ass of the person who ordered the patients be brought to Travis.

 

There were more remote bases the Travis folks could have been flown to for their quarantine. Would like to know the rationale for bringing them there for it.

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China Begins Disinfecting Cash in an Attempt to Contain Coronavirus Money must be treated and stored for two weeks before banks can reissue the currency.

Then there are shipping boxes. And for snail mail saliva used to seal the letter. Luckily these days stamps come with adhesive.

Fact that there is no general policy of disinfecting money periodically was always mind boggling to me, considering how big vector it can be in disease transmission. And it is not that would be expensive, ethylene oxide is cheap as dirt.

 

"Money Laundering"? Anyway, the US periodically incinerates older bills

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But she didn't abstain and got pregnant. So Rick's still right.

And that demonstrates the ineffectiveness of abstinence as a policy. Evangelical Christian girls raised in Evangelical Christian households are at least as prone to have sex as those who are not.

 

I read that article. The left has a hard time convincing me it isn't anti Christian. And guess what? After praying he changed his mind.

Yes. If he had said he would think on it overnight, and came up with the same answer, it wouldn't have been worth the NYT making a point of it. It's as if Evangelical Christians can be reasonable rather than be straw fanatics.

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A couple of things spring to mind.

 

Masks are actually most effective if they're worn by the people with the infection, so they don't spray as many droplets about through sneezing or coughing.

Right. A doctor was saying that if someone is spraying out the infection you wearing a mask won't protect your eyes, ears or skin or hair. So if someone sneezes and it lands on your skin and you itch it it is then on your hands and it be can be acquired.

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Masks (regular ass masks btw) will prevent an infected person from spreading the disease for about 15 minutes of use. After that, the mask is so saturated with saliva and secretions that it will then spray the infection.

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Well, panic buying has started here in Germany.

I order the heavier part of my groceries online — Saves me schlepping them up five stories of stairs. Up to now, the delivery has been within 18–24 hours. (I usually opt for a late delivery, as it is cheaper.)

 

Well, imagine my surprise when this time, when I ordered on Thursday, the earliest delivery was for Tuesday afternoon. At first, I thought, maybe end/beginning of the month sprees. But almost all canned/jarred goods that I ordered were either not available, or much more expensive alternatives offered.

 

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No he put a person in charge who wanted to pray before deciding what to do about a crisis back in his home State.

Which crisis?

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/08/us/politics/mike-pence-needle-exchanges-indiana.html

A New York Times article about a Mid Western Conservative, Christian leader :glare: Yea, right. Morality and prayer go hand-in-hand for Christians. Let me help you out; no choosing drugs, no need for needle exchange. Abstinence works every time it is tried.
And if every one was as actually observant as you prefer, there would be no problem.

 

Real life and human nature aren't that neat and weren't even when conservative Christian morality was mainstream both socially and politically.

Your correct. But to explain further, choices have consequences and most consequences do not begin as bundles of straw.
On an individual level, thats true and if individuals always behaved responsibly, we would have few problems. Nagging, including proselatising, at people doesn't work and never has.

Neither does having the tax-payer footing the bill for said choices of personal irresponsibility.

Yes because masses of people starving, sick, and homeless has no effect on society and these things could only happen to the virtueless.

 

What is the numerical total of your "masses" due to illegal drug overdosing as this is the topic being discussed. How has government solved the problems your talking about?

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