sunday Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 On 3/25/2024 at 7:03 PM, sunday said: Does that means that the German NPCs of the Pfizeraboo kind are going to apologize? Considering the thread's tags, it looks like not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 9 minutes ago, sunday said: Considering the thread's tags, it looks like not. Well, it WAS disinformation in the thread. The problem was the person who accused everyone of disinformation was in fact conveying such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 17 minutes ago, rmgill said: Well, it WAS disinformation in the thread. The problem was the person who accused everyone of disinformation was in fact conveying such. You may have a point here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 hours ago, sunday said: You may have a point here. I usually do. 🙃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Zeitgeist Posted March 27 Author Share Posted March 27 11 hours ago, rmgill said: Well, it WAS disinformation in the thread. The problem was the person who accused everyone of disinformation was in fact conveying such. 11 hours ago, sunday said: You may have a point here. 9 hours ago, rmgill said: I usually do. 🙃 Oh noes! The Hunter Biden investigation squad think they found some disinformation, what should I do? 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) 10 hours ago, rmgill said: I usually do. 🙃 Yes, but usually is not always, sport. 😉 Edited March 27 by sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sardaukar Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Whole Covid-thing went totally over the top. I had 2 Covid vaccinations...and then got Covid twice. Probably the vaccinations helped that in both cases they were just like mild flu. But who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 But did it turn you into a commie? THATS what they want to know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardaukar Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Many across the pond think that all EUropeans are commies... 😎 I'd vote leftists as keenly as I'd vote Greens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Zeitgeist Posted March 27 Author Share Posted March 27 4 hours ago, Sardaukar said: Many across the pond think that all EUropeans are commies... 😎 I'd vote leftists as keenly as I'd vote Greens... It's funny that even with five mRNA shots, they're still letting me enter the country though. I mean, I couldn't get more Commie if I tried. 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 4 hours ago, Sardaukar said: Many across the pond think that all EUropeans are commies... 😎 I'd vote leftists as keenly as I'd vote Greens... Undecided. We haven't established whether or not you float. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ivanhoe Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMoa2309003 Quote The time to sustained alleviation of all signs and symptoms of Covid-19 did not differ significantly between participants who received nirmatrelvir–ritonavir and those who received placebo. (Supported by Pfizer; EPIC-SR ClinicalTrials.gov number, NCT05011513.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Behind a paywall; https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/paxlovid-doesnt-work-in-many-vaccinated-people-pfizer-study-5621617 Quote Dr. Vinay Prasad, an epidemiology professor at the University of California, San Francisco, who was not involved with the research, said on social media platform X that the trial showed Paxlovid “doesn’t work in vaccinated people.” “It was embarrassing to watch the administration and many ID doctors recommend this without any credible data,” he wrote, criticizing the government for spending north of $12 billion for courses of the treatment without much trial data.” I assume "ID" means infectious disease... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 1 hour ago, Ivanhoe said: I assume "ID" means infectious disease... Correct. Assigning a treatment with no shown effectiveness in trials is curious. But, doctors with new treatment availabilities do tend to throw the entire table of food against the wall and see what sticks. Sometimes it's harmful and you have cross effects between meds, sometimes it's effective because you're giving the disease a bunch of different attack vectors and sometimes it doesn't help because you're giving what amounts to a placebo. Medicine is as much art as science because every patient is different. Which is why the "Everyone should take the 'vaccine' regardless of risk mitigations, risk reward balances or other individual details was so absurd. Medicine SHOULD be individualized and specific to the patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ivanhoe Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9012513/pdf/main.pdf Quote The mRNA SARS-CoV-2 vaccines were brought to market in response to the public health crises of Covid-19. The utilization of mRNA vaccines in the context of infectious disease has no precedent. The many alterations in the vaccine mRNA hide the mRNA from cellular defenses and promote a longer biological half-life and high production of spike protein. However, the immune response to the vaccine is very different from that to a SARS-CoV2 infection. In this paper, we present evidence that vaccination induces a profound impairment in type I interferon signaling, which has diverse adverse consequences to human health. Immune cells that have taken up the vaccine nanoparticles release into circulation large numbers of exosomes containing spike protein along with critical microRNAs that induce a signaling response in recipient cells at distant sites. We also identify potential profound disturbances in regulatory control of protein synthesis and cancer surveillance. These disturbances potentially have a causal link to eurodegenerative disease, myocarditis, immune thrombocytopenia, Bell’s palsy, liver disease, impaired adaptive immunity, impaired DNA damage response and tumorigenesis. We show evidence from the VAERS database supporting our hypothesis. We believe a comprehensive risk/benefit assessment of the mRNA vaccines questions them as positive contributors to public health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 2 minutes ago, Ivanhoe said: The mRNA SARS-CoV-2 vaccines were brought to market in response to the public health crises of Covid-19. The utilization of mRNA vaccines in the context of infectious disease has no precedent. This was known in 2020 already. The rest proves that new, unproved technology should be tested before mass administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/jocd.14521 Quote Conclusion: We could not establish definite link but there may be possible association between COVID-19 vaccine and shingles. Large-scale studies may help to understand the cause-effect relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/02/29/how-sweden-proved-the-world-wrong-about-lockdown/ Quote Certainly, Sweden did not do everything right during the pandemic. The government itself admitted that in 2022, when it concluded its inquiry into the handling of the pandemic. However, Sweden did manage to succeed in a few key areas where other nations failed spectacularly. Notably, it did not panic during the crisis. It considered how its policies would impact society as a whole. It did not just focus on limiting cases of Covid. And it did not ignore the potential long-term effects of lockdown. Above all, it recognised that the pandemic policy of China’s authoritarian government should not have served as a guide for a liberal democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/04/new-documentary-asserts-deborah-birx-was-real-culprit-behind-disastrous-covid-lockdowns/ Quote Legal Insurrection recently looked back on the 4th anniversary of “15 days to Slow the Spread,” highlighting the spate of disastrous consequences of the covid lockdowns that extended in some locales for three years. I have often noted the role of Dr. Anthony Fauci in this fiasco. But a new documentary reminded me about”Scarf Lady” Dr. Deborah Birx. “It Wasn’t Fauci: How the Deep State Really Played Trump” shows how Birx, a career bureaucrat, seized control of the government from President Donald Trump and created a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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