Covid-19 Pandemic

[RETAC21]

As for cases and deaths while factoring out China and Iran, there are 91 deaths total so far out of 8,316 cases. So if taking the cases to 45,000,000, then it makes for 492,424 deaths. Far lower than the previous crude ratio that included China and Iran, but still far higher than flu deaths.

 

Assuming all infections were accounted for, which is far from being the case

[Tim the Tank Nut]

Reports are that Iran's Supreme Leader has succumbed to the virus.

[JasonJ]

 

As for cases and deaths while factoring out China and Iran, there are 91 deaths total so far out of 8,316 cases. So if taking the cases to 45,000,000, then it makes for 492,424 deaths. Far lower than the previous crude ratio that included China and Iran, but still far higher than flu deaths.

 

Assuming all infections were accounted for, which is far from being the case

 

Quite true. If we double the number of infections to deaths, so 91 to 16,600 cases, then taking that ratio to 45,000,000 and it results in 246,686 deaths. In order to match it with the flu death of 60,000, then there would have to be 68,250 cases to the 91 deaths.

[Der Zeitgeist]

Reports are that Iran's Supreme Leader has succumbed to the virus.

 

An advisor to him, not he himself (at least not yet).

[Harold Jones]

Just did an early morning grocery run. No empty shelves. I suspect that will change as soon as Colorado gets its first reported case.

[Jeff]

Reports are that Iran's Supreme Leader has succumbed to the virus.

 

I heard one of his close advisors but it does seem to be entrenched in the Iranian hierarchy (Deputy Health Minister has it as well) which could be destabilizing.

[Colin]

Just did an early morning grocery run. No empty shelves. I suspect that will change as soon as Colorado gets its first reported case.

No masks and hand sanitizer to be found in Vancouver, already some medicines being completely bought up.

[Mobius]

 

Reports are that Iran's Supreme Leader has succumbed to the virus.

 

I heard one of his close advisors but it does seem to be entrenched in the Iranian hierarchy (Deputy Health Minister has it as well) which could be destabilizing.

 

The Pope doesn't look so mean slapping away the lady who grabbed him Dec 31. Who by the way was Asian.

[GregShaw]

Just got back from the local supermarket, no signs of shortages of anything. The only thing unusual was they had 5 gallon potable water tanks, only a pair, and a single emergency kit on the shelf. Picked up a couple dozen cans of soup, a pack of a dozen rolls of tp and a few lbs of rice. None of that is unusual for me, just restocking the pantry. I typically keep 2-3 weeks of food around.

[Nobu]

Just to put things in perspective.

 

Average U S Automobile accident deaths 100 per DAY.

 

Plain old run - of - the - mill flu deaths in 2017 = 60,000 +-

For better or worse, perspectives don't sell newspapers.

[Mobius]

Just got back from the local supermarket, no signs of shortages of anything. The only thing unusual was they had 5 gallon potable water tanks, only a pair, and a single emergency kit on the shelf. Picked up a couple dozen cans of soup, a pack of a dozen rolls of tp and a few lbs of rice. None of that is unusual for me, just restocking the pantry. I typically keep 2-3 weeks of food around.

Went shopping too. A lot of hand soap and soup being bought in the line ahead of me. I got some rice, water and TP. The drug store had a big sign saying they were out of facemasks but their beer was all stocked up.

[Nobu]

Heading to Costco again after work on Friday, again, more out of curiosity than need. Was amused the first time that the giant cylinders of Tang were especially untouched.

[DougRichards]

Rice

 

I am amused by the amount of rice that people seem to be buying up. Yes it is a staple and is useful for carbohydrate and as a something that can be used with a whole range of different flavours from rice puddings to Asian and Mexican and then some.

 

But if I was to stock up with dry food that needs cooking I would go for pasta, particularly the relatively new 'pulse' based pasta. It lasts about as long on the shelf as rice and can also be used in a variety of ways and contributes to the daily vegetable intake.

 

Unless your local tap water is undrinkable at the best of times I am also not sure why people are stocking up on water. Even if tap water is a little questionable there is nothing that filtration and boiling won't fix in most western cities. Perhaps people should be buying up filtration jugs and the like. If you are stocking up with water maybe also stock up with disposable cups and bowls in case you are not able to wash up, I would not bother with plates. Heavy duty garbage bags would also seem to be useful in case two many garbage collection staff get sick for a while and collects get deferred.

 

As for hand santisers. Yes, the bottle and perfumed varieties are convenient, but a few bottles of rubbing alcohol / methanol safely stored around the house would be just as useful, and can be cheaply used as fuel for cooking if you have a camping stove that can use it.

[rmgill]

It's low cost for the bulk.

[Stargrunt6]

Georgia had 2 cases

 

https://www.cbs46.com/news/coronavirus-strikes-in-fulton-county-georgia-s-first-cases/article_4561bc98-5cfc-11ea-80de-97d642cd4aa3.html

[Martin M]

The FAZ online (newspaper) is markedly more in negative direction this morning.

 

And look here, we have the next wave of "Fachkräfte" waiting in Greece via Turkey. Let´s see how that works out.

[Stuart Galbraith]

The town a mile and a half down the road from me is pretty much on lock-down. The local school had a guy (think it was a janitor or some kind of support staff) who went to italy and he got it, so the school is completely shut down.

 

Time to stock up on Pot Noodles.

[Rick]

The town a mile and a half down the road from me is pretty much on lock-down. The local school had a guy (think it was a janitor or some kind of support staff) who went to italy and he got it, so the school is completely shut down.

 

Time to stock up on Pot Noodles.

Nope, stock up on booze and cigarettes. These two items are "international currency for anything.

[Stuart Galbraith]

Well I dont smoke and I dont drink much, so im ok there.

 

Fully expecting to see this next week.

[bojan]

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I am amused by the amount of rice that people seem to be buying up....

 

Dried beans are way superior.

100 grams = ~330 kcal, while rice is less than 120

Also ~20+g of proteins vs 2g for rice.

Buckwheat is also superior to rice.

Edited March 3, 2020 by bojan

[bojan]

Nope, stock up on booze and cigarettes. These two items are "international currency for anything.

 

This.

[DougRichards]

 

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I am amused by the amount of rice that people seem to be buying up....

 

Dried beans are way superior.

100 grams = ~330 kcal, while rice is less than 120

Also ~20+g of proteins vs 2g for rice.

Buckwheat is also superior to rice.

 

Good suggestion, but you forgot to mention the advantage in fibre. Unfortunately dried beans (and lentils / chick peas / dried peas etc) require a bit of planning like soaking overnight (simple really). And as most people cannot plan past their next coffee there may be a problem.

 

Black beans and rice, with some canned tomato and maybe some jerky, bacon or (horror) spam added sounds like a decent meal to help one relax after a violent day of zombie control.

Edited March 3, 2020 by DougRichards

[Ssnake]

No masks and hand sanitizer to be found in Vancouver,

 

SOAP.

 

Sanitizes very well, if applied for 30+ seconds rather than a token hand wetting.

[Mobius]

It's low cost for the bulk.

Well, I buy it in microwaveable packets. I guess frozen dinners and other frozen meals would work though you need frozen storage.

 

Soap doesn't clean on it's own. It makes water clean better. As they say it makes water wetter.

Edited March 3, 2020 by Mobius

[Ssnake]

Soap also increases the pH - at least "real soap" does (I mean, curd soap, had to look that up) - which attacks the protective shell of most microbials. The involved chemical reactions there just need time - 30 seconds. Hand sanitizers are preferred by medical practitioners simply because they work faster, not because soap is useless.