MiloMorai Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, Der Zeitgeist said: Did it turn you into a shitlib yet? 😄 Hope springs eternal.🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Zeitgeist Posted October 6, 2020 Author Share Posted October 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, MiloMorai said: Hope springs eternal.🤣 It sneaks up on you, you don't even notice at first. Until one day you wake up and wonder what your preferred pronouns are. 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiloMorai Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 All due to tRump's incompetence and indifference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Quote 2019 WHO review of mask studies found 'no evidence' they stopped transmission of flu A2019 World Health Organization review of numerous studies testing the efficacy of face coverings to stop the transmission of influenza found "no evidence that [wearing a mask] is effective in reducing transmission" of the virus. The organization has further discouraged individuals from using cloth masks to cover their faces during pandemics, though at times that advice has appeared to shift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Again, I am proved right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 7 hours ago, MiloMorai said: Hope springs eternal.🤣 When hell freezes over, I will fight communists to my dying breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 9 hours ago, Murph said: When hell freezes over, I will fight communists to my dying breath. Which I expect that after this you will hear the words of Matthew 25:21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LT Ducky Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 From the CDC - Posted 09/30/2020 Data from 02/01/2020 to 09/26/2020 United States All Sexes All Ages Covid deaths - 194,091 Pneumonia deaths -197,973 I've been watching these statistics since April, every time I check Pneumonia deaths have been higher than COVID https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Sex-Age-and-S/9bhg-hcku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonJ Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Cruise ships that lost their jobs from places like the US, the UK, and Italy being broken down in Aliaga, Turkey where normally freigh and container ships are brought in for being torn down. 5 cruise ships are in the video, and 3 more are to arrive for being ripped down. Things like the furniture and kitchen utensils are sold to hotels and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn239 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Hey, here’s something curious. So I type in “US Mortality rate 2019” and this pops up in the google search, https://www.google.com/search?ei=ycJ9X-2GBoy7tQbyzZiAAQ&q=us+mortality+rate+2019&oq=us+mortality+rate+2019&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIFCAAQyQMyBQgAEMcDMgIIADICCAAyBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB46BAgAEEc6BwgAEMkDEENQlS9YkTZg7zdoAHACeACAAUqIAe8BkgEBNJgBAKABAaoBB2d3cy13aXrIAQTAAQE&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwitj8Sry6LsAhWMXc0KHfImBhAQ4dUDCA0&uact=5 The key thing being, United States - Historical Death Rate Data Year Death Rate Growth Rate 2019 8.782 1.120% 2018 8.685 1.220% 2017 8.580 1.240% 68 more rows U.S. Death Rate 1950-2020 | MacroTrends So what jumps out at me first is that the rate is going up 8.58 to 8.68 to 8.78. The next thing I find curious is that 2020 isn’t listed. So I redid the search as, “US Mortality rate 2020” And this google result pops up, https://www.google.com/search?ei=0cJ9X4jzBYa6tQbri7qYAg&q=us+mortality+rate+2020&oq=us+mortality+rate+2020&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIFCAAQyQMyAggAMgIIADICCAAyBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB46BAgAEEc6BwgAEMkDEEM6BwgAEMcDEEM6BAgAEENQmt0IWLfjCGDl5AhoAHACeACAAX2IAZ0CkgEDMy4xmAEAoAEBqgEHZ3dzLXdpesgBB8ABAQ&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwjIn6yvy6LsAhUGXc0KHeuFDiMQ4dUDCA0&uact=5 Odd, the chart STILL doesn’t have the mortality rate listed for 2020 like it did for the other years. So I click this link, https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/death-rate And finally, if you scroll over on the graph, it fills in 2020 as 8.88. Which is exactly the death rate I would have expected to see without Covid, extrapolating from the .1 yearly increase since 2017. Curious how the information was set up not to provide that answer quickly. Think Google concealed the 2020 increase in relation to longer trends deliberately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojan Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 hour ago, JasonJ said: ...Things like the furniture and kitchen utensils are sold to hotels and such... Like hotels need that now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucklucky Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Portuguese COVID hard data was released after much effort due to blocking by DGS(General Health Directorate). It includes pregnant men including a pregnant 5 years old children... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobu Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 The next wave in the U.S. may be starting in the Hasidic/Orthodox communities of New York City if my lunch convo with a non-Orthodox Jewish colleague was any indication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETAC21 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 6 hours ago, JasonJ said: Cruise ships that lost their jobs from places like the US, the UK, and Italy being broken down in Aliaga, Turkey where normally freigh and container ships are brought in for being torn down. 5 cruise ships are in the video, and 3 more are to arrive for being ripped down. Things like the furniture and kitchen utensils are sold to hotels and such. All of these are older ships that are outdated for the current market and were being kept on secondary markets or were about to be refitted to get a few more years out of them. COVID just accelerated their demise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Nobu said: The next wave in the U.S. may be starting in the Hasidic/Orthodox communities of New York City if my lunch convo with a non-Orthodox Jewish colleague was any indication. I suspect it's already run it's course through that population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kennedy Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Nobu said: The next wave in the U.S. may be starting in the Hasidic/Orthodox communities of New York City if my lunch convo with a non-Orthodox Jewish colleague was any indication. Yeah https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/10/orthodox-communities-are-furious-over-new-lockdown-measures.html happy I don’t live in S Williamsburg anymore! Edited October 7, 2020 by Brian Kennedy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 At some point, Wilhelm will come up with the idea of tattooing numbers on the Orthodox Jews to improve contact tracing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kennedy Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 23 minutes ago, Ivanhoe said: At some point, Wilhelm will come up with the idea of tattooing numbers on the Orthodox Jews to improve contact tracing. Yeah totally, NYC is incredibly anti-Semitic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobu Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 >Yeah https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/10/orthodox-communities-are-furious-over-new-lockdown-measures.html Good article--my lunch date pointed to a similar article here: https://gothamist.com/news/orthodox-borough-park-residents-burn-masks-beat-dissenters-over-covid-lockdown I was under the impression that New York City was doing well overall, but the recent positive test spikes appear centered in the interesting Hasidic and orthodox Jewish communities there. Part of the reason may be that those communities feel they have indeed achieved herd immunity. God help those neighboring communities that have not. Interestingly, I have the impression that those who are the most angry about the behavior of the orthodox in the time of Covid are non-orthodox Jews. Wilhelm may have to wait in line at the tattoo booth behind them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel2 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Brian Kennedy said: Yeah totally, NYC is incredibly anti-Semitic DeBlasio has been hounding the annoyingly law abiding Jewish community while he turns a blind eye on the illegal and destructive activities of large segments of other protected ethnic groups. All those orthodox Jews had to do was brandish some BLM placards and burn a few cars and businesses and they would be kosher in the eyes of the NYC authorities. Edited October 7, 2020 by Mikel2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kennedy Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 24 minutes ago, Mikel2 said: DeBlasio has been hounding the annoyingly law abiding Jewish community while he turns a blind eye on the illegal and destructive activities of large segments of other protected ethnic groups. All those orthodox Jews had to do was brandish some BLM placards and burn a few cars and businesses and they would be kosher in the eyes of the NYC authorities. I think DeBlasio's a crap mayor and I think the Hasidic community (if you're referring to the "Jewish community," that's basically NYC writ large, it's probably the most culturally Jewish city outside Israel) is acting incredibly irresponsibly. I haven't lived in NYC for about 9 years -- I lived there for about 12 -- but this is a pretty commonly held opinion among my friends who still live there. I'd defer to our members who still live there for corroboration/refutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Brian Kennedy said: I think DeBlasio's a crap mayor and I think the Hasidic community (if you're referring to the "Jewish community," that's basically NYC writ large, it's probably the most culturally Jewish city outside Israel) is acting incredibly irresponsibly. I haven't lived in NYC for about 9 years -- I lived there for about 12 -- but this is a pretty commonly held opinion among my friends who still live there. I'd defer to our members who still live there for corroboration/refutal. +1. Nothing has changed since you left. The Hasidics are breaking the rules and pushing back, and also testing positive at higher rates as a result. The same is happening in Israel and along with the Bibi protests is causing even more unrest than the US is experiencing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVWTpIIPPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobu Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 The level of "mainstream" Jewish anger at the behavior of the Hasidic/Orthodox community came as a surprise when my usually soft-spoken lunch date called the Hasidics "assholes" at least 3 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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