Wiedzmin Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) Mk3 turret assembly maybe(without frontal part welded, turret sides visible) Mk1/2 turrets Mk3 hull Edited September 27, 2020 by Wiedzmin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty_Zuk Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 Eitan going through rough terrain testing. Tires seem to have excellent grip. Full weight was simulated for the test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucklucky Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Seems nice. I wonder if the weight gravity center was correctly simulated. Years ago here a new rail train was tested in full weight before being made operational. Test was made with weights put on floor, so not with correct gravity center for real operations since passengers have a big head 1.5-1.8m from the floor...all equipment had to be returned to get suspensions straightened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty_Zuk Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 5 hours ago, lucklucky said: Seems nice. I wonder if the weight gravity center was correctly simulated. Years ago here a new rail train was tested in full weight before being made operational. Test was made with weights put on floor, so not with correct gravity center for real operations since passengers have a big head 1.5-1.8m from the floor...all equipment had to be returned to get suspensions straightened. I just assume they put around 80kg on every seat plus maybe 40kg by every seat. I don't know how they'd simulate the rest of the weight because a lot is reserved for upgrades yet to be determined. I assume that when the turret is on the rear and already features a lot of things that would have it upgraded, rather than add modules, putting a lot of extra weight on the troop section floor wouldn't be too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvinb1nav Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) In this still from a Instagram post, it looks like the Israeli's have re-purposed a M-85 .50 cal from a M-60 tank and mounted it above the main gun of a Merkava Mk4. Interesting... https://imgur.com/8BQCPxs Edited November 20, 2020 by Calvinb1nav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) Could those two cables that could be seen at the rear of the MG some means of using the pulling chains used to arm and shoot the gun? Edited November 20, 2020 by sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Sielbeck Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Looks like a blury M2 to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootER5 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Tim Sielbeck said: Looks like a blury M2 to me. Agreed. The muzzle end resembles an M85 flash hider, but a close inspection reveals an M2HB barrel handle as well as what appears to be a hooded front sight on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Tan Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Telfare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty_Zuk Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) The IDF does not use the M85. The wires are used for firing and cocking the gun. Another version exists with a pair of solenoids, in which the wires are replaced with electrical cables. Edited November 20, 2020 by Mighty_Zuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Ok, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistral Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 A Merkava tried to make a run for it. I hope crew got out ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETAC21 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Mistral said: A Merkava tried to make a run for it. I hope crew got out ok. Fook! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 The fact that the engine kept running doesn’t bode well for the driver... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty_Zuk Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 19 hours ago, shep854 said: The fact that the engine kept running doesn’t bode well for the driver... Driver says the gas was stuck for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiedzmin Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 (edited) Mk3 turret, welded variant i think Mk4 Edited December 28, 2020 by Wiedzmin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 That Sherman recovery vehicle...when was this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootER5 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 3 hours ago, shep854 said: That Sherman recovery vehicle...when was this? Above? Those are M88s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin-Phillips Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Impressive working pictures of an M88. What kind of lift capacity does that winch and frame setup have? I'm more than a bit surprised that something heavier isn't required for the recovery of an MBT hull and turret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanDP Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 How much do Merkava Mk 3 & 4 turrets weigh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty_Zuk Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share Posted December 30, 2020 11 hours ago, Gavin-Phillips said: Impressive working pictures of an M88. What kind of lift capacity does that winch and frame setup have? I'm more than a bit surprised that something heavier isn't required for the recovery of an MBT hull and turret. 9 hours ago, EvanDP said: How much do Merkava Mk 3 & 4 turrets weigh? The winch capacity of an M88A1 was described by the IDF as roughly 25 tons. I'm confident you can get a much more accurate figure elsewhere. The Mark 4's turret at least was said to be about 24 tons, just scratching the limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardaukar Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Mighty_Zuk said: The winch capacity of an M88A1 was described by the IDF as roughly 25 tons. I'm confident you can get a much more accurate figure elsewhere. The Mark 4's turret at least was said to be about 24 tons, just scratching the limit. One can probably go over that limit with that module construction, if they can be field-stripped before lifting turret off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) On 12/27/2020 at 7:03 PM, shootER5 said: Above? Those are M88s. Ah. I see now. At a quick glance on my phone, it looked like a Sherman hull, and the roadwheels resembled paired bogies. Edited December 30, 2020 by shep854 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Is that the winch capacity, or the capacity of the boom? There's a snatch block on the hook end of the cable which would give a factor of 2 pulling/lifting capacity if the winch directly was capable of 25 tons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunday Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 4 hours ago, DB said: Is that the winch capacity, or the capacity of the boom? There's a snatch block on the hook end of the cable which would give a factor of 2 pulling/lifting capacity if the winch directly was capable of 25 tons. From http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/m88.html: Quote The dieselization of the US military's vehicle fleet resulted in the AVDS-1790-2DR engine being installed in the M88, yielding the M88A1. The auxiliary generator and crew heater were also changed to diesel-powered units. The boom lift height at 8' (2.4m) of reach was 270.5" (687.1cm), and at 4' (1.2m) reach was 301.50" (765.81cm). The boom capacity with the spade stowed was 6 tons (5400kg) without the suspension locked and 20 tons (18,000kg) with the suspension locked. With the spade deployed the boom capacity increased to 25 tons (23,000kg). There is more information here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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