Stuart Galbraith Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Well anyway.... Its worth reflecting on the number of threats to Monarchy down the years. From Puritanism, Republicanism, Charterism, Socialism,Fascism, even irritable Americans of one description or another. There is no doubt the British Monarchy will end one day, but I think its going to take more than these two to bring it down based on past evidence. I dont really see it as about neo marxists, or wokists, though I can see it suits various people to do it that way. I think its about an unhappy young man who never got over the entire world looking at him at his mothers funeral. I grieve for that child, I do truly. It was a tough break. But if shredding dozens of Terry Taliban didnt get him over it, and it arguably should have done, I dont see why anyone else should suffer for it. Its his problem, so I really wish he poke off to California as he promised he would and stop bleating about it. Everyone has problems, his family problems are no more remarkable than mine or anyones. He just gets paid more for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucklucky Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Meghan and Harry obviously are not interested into building a commune or starting a kolkhoze, they are themselves very individualistic. They just want to be recognized authorities in what is good and what is evil to get power so they ape neo Marxist classes struggles now racial, ethnic etc . It is a very efficient tool in making people other guilty and feeling guilty means you don't resist them. Regarding Harry, i think he is an "empty vessel" that can be filled whatever he is in contact with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 30 minutes ago, lucklucky said: Meghan and Harry obviously are not interested into building a commune or starting a kolkhoze, they are themselves very individualistic. They just want to be recognized authorities in what is good and what is evil to get power so they ape neo Marxist classes struggles now racial, ethnic etc . It is a very efficient tool in making people other guilty and feeling guilty means you don't resist them. Regarding Harry, i think he is an "empty vessel" that can be filled whatever he is in contact with. Great Point on Harry, I have no respect for him, he is a whiny twat, married to a narcissistic control freak. He might have even been safer marrying one of the Kardashians! I am so tired of Mr and Mrs Markle finding new things to call racist, or who/which have conspired against them and their "vision". Loads of respect for William and Kate. Even Charles is starting to grow on me, he is not as bad as I feared he would be from his time as POW. Perhaps Queen Camilla made the change in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 34 minutes ago, lucklucky said: Meghan and Harry obviously are not interested into building a commune or starting a kolkhoze, they are themselves very individualistic. They just want to be recognized authorities in what is good and what is evil to get power so they ape neo Marxist classes struggles now racial, ethnic etc . It is a very efficient tool in making people other guilty and feeling guilty means you don't resist them. Regarding Harry, i think he is an "empty vessel" that can be filled whatever he is in contact with. Yes, I think that is a reasonable enough assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Both both Mr. and Mrs. Markle are getting savaged in the Daily Mail. Is this the standard view in the UK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssnake Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Savaging celebrities is the no. 1 reason for the British press to exist. For some tabloids, it seems to be the only reason. That said, I'm glad we managed to export the Windsors from Hannover to Britain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Nothing wrong with the German monarchy, fine upstanding individuals. Once we took the precaution of removing from their hands trifling decisions like, oh I don't know, invading Belgium for example? There is an advantage to monarchy, it means there is always someone more senior than a politician, of value even If it means politicians can never get above their station. If anyone thinks this is a bad idea, they haven't been watching the same politics I have for the past 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrustMe Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Murph said: Both both Mr. and Mrs. Markle are getting savaged in the Daily Mail. Is this the standard view in the UK? The Mail is a middle class mainly female buyers only paper so "nuff said" All British papers carry news articles daily about the royal family. It's like a British tradition, were bombarder by it all the time. Edit: On a side note the House of Lords, which is the upper house of the British government, maybe demolished by an incoming Labour government and replaced by elected representatives. Edited December 6, 2022 by TrustMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 hour ago, TrustMe said: The Mail is a middle class mainly female buyers only paper so "nuff said" All British papers carry news articles daily about the royal family. It's like a British tradition, were bombarder by it all the time. Edit: On a side note the House of Lords, which is the upper house of the British government, maybe demolished by an incoming Labour government and replaced by elected representatives. Now THAT would be something interesting, not perhaps a great idea, but interesting. At least the Lords do not have to sway to the winds of popular opinion THAT much. Stuart I agree completely, a good British style Monarchy is probably what Russia needs as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stuart Galbraith Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 11 hours ago, Murph said: Now THAT would be something interesting, not perhaps a great idea, but interesting. At least the Lords do not have to sway to the winds of popular opinion THAT much. Stuart I agree completely, a good British style Monarchy is probably what Russia needs as well. They would be happier I think. It stops the next President thinking he is Ivan the Terrible or Stalin, it connects Church and state in a manner above that of everyday politics. And it allows a nation to believe it is 'special', which for Russians has been an everyday problem since 1991. Heck, its been an everyday problem since the fall of Constantinople. Never happen of course. It would mean the FSB leaving their stranglehold on Russian politics. Yes, the Lords reform is interesting. On the one hand, we have the largest unelected chamber in the world, other than the Peoples Republic of China, which is clearly unsustainable. But as Blair found, what do you turn it into? If you turn it into an elected Chamber, there is a danger of it displacing the Commons as the primary legislative area in British politics. If you give them a vote, they are going to demand they are giving similar powers to say, the American house of Representives. Which sounds like a good idea, till we look at the relative impasse in the US. The Australians seem to have found a workable solution, perhaps we will end up copying them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Harry 'mysteriously' absent from The Crown amid speculation of 'deal' with Netflix (msn.com) The Crown season 5 is in full swing, chronicling the highs and lows of the Royal Family in the Nineties. The events played out are within living memory, yet many royal experts have noted that certain members of the Firm are notably absent from screens. Kinsey Schofiled, host of the To Di For Daily podcast, recently spoke to TalkTV presenter Cristo Foufas about this, discussing in a segment posted to her podcast how Prince Harry has barely featured in the cumulative 10-hour-long instalment. A young Duke of Sussex is played by child actor Teddy Hawley and appears in a select few scenes with Diana, Princess of Wales (played by Elizabeth Debicki) and her sons. Prince William is played by Senan West, the real son of Dominic West who plays then-Prince Charles, and features in later episodes of the season. Harry appeared briefly in season 4 of The Crown with his introduction coming in the early years of Diana and Charles' marriage. Played by Arran Tinker, the young Prince can be seen in episodes 9 and 10. In the latest series, Harry features in the first episode which sees Diana and Charles on their 'second honeymoon' in Italy with their two sons. Ms Schofield said: "Harry is mysteriously gone. So I take back what I said about him having no control," to which Mr Foufas added: He gets a line in the first episode and then... Harry doesn't exist. She [Diana] could have just had one child because you don't see him." Their comments come amid speculation surrounding an "arranged deal" between Netflix and the Duke of Sussex and his wife Meghan Markle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soren Ras Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Well, if they don't feature him, then his wife and he can't really complain about how he is being exploited, now can they? One does get the sense that they were really hoping for the series to feature young Harry, so they could get attention from decrying how problematic it is. Now, they have to settle for his absence being a problem, which is not nearly as sexy. So sad. That being, said, season five is clearly the weakest of the bunch so far, as far as I can concerned (haven't seen the last few episodes, it must be said). I understand the Charles/Diana dynamic needs to feature prominently, but a strength in the previous seasons was the degree to which they covered the key political events and featured notable people of the era, not least the concerns and issues seen from 10 Downing. So far, aside from an enjoyable episode focusing on Mohamed Al-Fayed (clearly to set up certain later events), it has been more narrowly focused and thus reduced in its scope. Ending of the Cold War and reunification of Germany. Was that even mentioned despite events having progressed to the mid-90s? Still enjoyable, and maybe something will crop up in the later episodes. -- Soren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Ive not even watched it. I just find it amusing Netflix seemingly sanatizing their show, to appeal to someone they perceive as an even bigger draw. There is something very insideous about that. Its supposed to be about drama, exploring issues, not selling out for a bigger cash cow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssnake Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 LOL, Stu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-11512575/DAN-WOOTTON-Harry-Meghan-spread-fantasies-time-Sussex-Survivor-Club-public.html Looks like the point of no return is getting closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11520823/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-release-new-statement-amid-Netflix-documentary-backlash.html Apparently Mr. and Mrs. Markle are denying any hypocracy. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) They want to live a quiet private life. That's why they have a netflix documentary! Edited December 9, 2022 by rmgill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Makes a difference from Koolaid I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Wow. Stuart and our other UK members, how is the Netflix "special" going over in you alls country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Well the newspapers are going nuts. I've not watched BBC today, but most people online say there is no silver bullet. It seems mostly an Oprah rehash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Stuart Galbraith said: Makes a difference from Koolaid I guess. As a aficionado of Belgian sour/tart lambics. Harry's Bitter could only be the most fresh of bitter hops and in IPA quantities, but without the long sea voyage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 With I suspect a strong taste of ripe lemons, and just a dash of sour apples... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhoe Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 22 hours ago, rmgill said: They want to live a quiet private life. That's why they have a netflix documentary! I suspect things will be quieting down with the royals for a few months. Reptilians getting sluggish in cold weather and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Harry is in the Sun, its why the bugger wont shut up. I expect all them hippies already built shacks on all the hot rocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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