Because The British Royal Family

[Ivanhoe]

When the race card is being played, I have learned to take claims with a Jupiter-sized grain of salt. Especially when the purported egregious offense is a currently popular trope such as "Where are you from?"

I recall getting that question a lot, the first few years in the public school system. Half of my family tree is from Appalachia, and I picked up some pronunciations and vocab from that region. After hearing me speak, any number of teachers asked me where I was from. Only once was it done so in a negative bent, in high school. From a flaming leftie teacher, of course.

 

[Murph]

1 hour ago, Ivanhoe said:

When the race card is being played, I have learned to take claims with a Jupiter-sized grain of salt. Especially when the purported egregious offense is a currently popular trope such as "Where are you from?"

I recall getting that question a lot, the first few years in the public school system. Half of my family tree is from Appalachia, and I picked up some pronunciations and vocab from that region. After hearing me speak, any number of teachers asked me where I was from. Only once was it done so in a negative bent, in high school. From a flaming leftie teacher, of course.

 

Agreed.  It is NOT a racist question 99% of the time.  And if it becomes a racist question, it is most likely to come from the racists on the left (it is in their DNA).

[Murph]

13 hours ago, R011 said:

Then version of the story I heard was that the old Lady received an answer much like that, but then insisted on knowing where in Africa the person came from.

And that could be a totally innocent query to see if the person knows their ancestry.

[Stuart Galbraith]

No, she was being an annoying prick, trying to demean someones heritage, or at the very best, being incredibly nosy and arrogant. Well she is 83, it is a different generation after all.

I dont blame the lady concerned being really annoyed about it. She is fully entitled to be. Where I find it incomprehensible is why the media (and yes, it is the left wing media here, Im quite willing to own that) that is pretending is indicative of a wider race problem in the Royal Family. Well you know, I suspect any 83 year old is probably going to put their foot in their mouth occasionally, willfully or not whether they were working at the Palace or B and Q. It indicative of no wider problem than the media piddling themselves at the prospect of a white hot Royal Family story, which frankly it isnt.

Can anyone really see this getting airtime on The Crown when they work up to the present day? I think not.

 

[DB]

Do we have a recording or transcript, or just the claim by the offended?

[R011]

8 hours ago, DB said:

Do we have a recording or transcript, or just the claim by the offended?

Does it matter?  The incident itself, even as alleged, is minor and will be forgotten soon if not already.  The old woman was fired/retired and will never be heard of publicly again. 

[DougRichards]

Unfortunately this old lady is past her prime.  This will not be a good incident to end a career of service.

BUT... If we simply treat everyone as if they are 'locals' we can be accused of ignoring their cultural and genetic heritage. 

If we ask about a persons heritage we can be accused of being racialist (no, not racist, even though that word is usually used).

If this older woman had not asked she could have been accused of racialism, but when she asked she was also accusing of racialism.

There was no 'win' situation for her, except that touching the hair is a form of assault.

[R011]

14 minutes ago, DougRichards said:

Unfortunately this old lady is past her prime.  This will not be a good incident to end a career of service.

BUT... If we simply treat everyone as if they are 'locals' we can be accused of ignoring their cultural and genetic heritage. 

If we ask about a persons heritage we can be accused of being racialist (no, not racist, even though that word is usually used).

If this older woman had not asked she could have been accused of racialism, but when she asked she was also accusing of racialism.

There was no 'win' situation for her, except that touching the hair is a form of assault.

She wasn't "asked about her heritage", she was asked where she herself came from and her actual place of origin was not accepted by the questioner, as if just being Black meant she had to be some sort of foreigner.

[Stuart Galbraith]

She seems to have made it fairly clear she identified as British at an early stage. Really thats all that needs to be known. As for where her people came from, well fairly evidently Africa at some stage. Im not really sure why she felt she needed the postcode.

Yes, divining someones genetic history is very interesting, and there are whole industries based upon that quest. Whether its appropriate for someone in that job to do it is another matter.

Anyway, as said she is gone, job done. Commendably quickly come to that.

[Ivanhoe]

 

Let's contrast the above tragedy with this;

https://freebeacon.com/campus/systemic-racism-students-downplay-stereotypically-asian-hobbies-to-boost-college-admissions-odds/

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Asian-American college applicants are going to extraordinary lengths to conceal their race, the New York Times reported on Friday, stripping their applications of activities and accomplishments that might seem stereotypically Asian.

Students interviewed by the Times said they had downplayed their interests in chess, violin, and piano in an effort to avoid being rejected on racial grounds.

 

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Other students said they chose not to declare their race for fear of incurring an admissions penalty, a practice that has been going on for years. In 2004, the test-prep company Princeton Review advised Asian applicants to conceal their racial identity.

It is now routine for college counselors to advise against activities deemed stereotypically Asian. Shin Wei, the founder of IvyMax, said he tells students to pick an instrument other than piano or violin. Sasha Chada, the founder of Ivy Scholars, said he does the same thing.

 

 

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"The same stereotypes used to grade down Jewish applicants in the 1920s—that they were nerds or grinds, that they would spend too much time studying to be ‘well rounded'—are being used against Asian-American applicants today," Mark Oppenheimer, who hosts a podcast about the history of Jews in the Ivy League, told the Times.

 

The folks who declare the "where are you from" question as being incredibly racist, are preventing top-shelf applicants from getting accepted at Harvard. Forgive me if I laugh at the pearl-clutchers who are aghast at the former and supportive of the latter.

 

[Murph]

Agreed.  Do you notice that something that should have been minor, is used by the media to breathlessly destroy someone?

[DB]

16 hours ago, R011 said:

Does it matter?  The incident itself, even as alleged, is minor and will be forgotten soon if not already.  The old woman was fired/retired and will never be heard of publicly again. 

Yes, because otherwise we're looking at a reputation destroyed by hearsay.

Don't worry, she's one of the privileged set, it won't matter that her name has been dragged through the papers and she's been treated like she was the modern reincarnation of King Leopold II.

[Murph]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11503479/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-drop-Netflix-trailer-royals.html

Apparently King Charles III made the comment to his mother that he "was not a bank" after Whinging Harry called begging for more cash.  Also it looks like this thing might just be an attempt to destroy the Firm, so that Megan can become even more famous.  How sad.  Could our Brits comment?  Even the American lefties are getting sick and tired of the constant "racist, racist, racist, poor poor pitiful me" crap coming out of Mr. and Mrs. Markle.

[TrustMe]

I rather liked Prince Harry. He fought for his country, in two tours of Afghanstan, which means he's ok by me.

As for us Brits whatever he does, he will never be accepted by the servants that surround the royal family, as he's not King Charles son. 

And it's the servants that are leeking to the press all the rumours about him and his wife.

Edited December 5, 2022 by TrustMe

[lucklucky]

On 12/4/2022 at 5:47 AM, R011 said:

Does it matter?  The incident itself, even as alleged, is minor and will be forgotten soon if not already.  The old woman was fired/retired and will never be heard of publicly again. 

Of course it matters. The Overton Window always matters.

[lucklucky]

Who is his father?

[Murph]

1 hour ago, TrustMe said:

I rather liked Prince Harry. He fought for his country, in two tours of Afghanstan, which means he's ok by me.

As for us Brits whatever he does, he will never be accepted by the servants that surround the royal family, as he's not King Charles son. 

And it's the servants that are leeking to the press all the rumours about him and his wife.

How is he not the son of King Charles?  Is there something I am missing?

[Stuart Galbraith]

32 minutes ago, lucklucky said:

Who is his father?

https://www.marieclaire.co.uk/news/celebrity-news/james-hewitt-prince-harry-real-dad-484220

It isn't true. But as we saw with Richard III and the prince's in the tower, doubts over Royal parentage can have unfortunate effects.

[Stuart Galbraith]

2 hours ago, TrustMe said:

I rather liked Prince Harry. He fought for his country, in two tours of Afghanstan, which means he's ok by me.

As for us Brits whatever he does, he will never be accepted by the servants that surround the royal family, as he's not King Charles son. 

And it's the servants that are leeking to the press all the rumours about him and his wife.

Undoubtedly. But if they are leaking, it's worth reflecting on why. It's not because Harry is a Cuckoo, or that Megan is Black. It's because they see themselves as defending the monarchy by leaking the truth as they see it. And they don't do it towards people they feel loyalty to.

I do find it bizarre as the sussexes complaining about being briefed against, after going on Oprah and releasing a Netflix series. It's at this point in beginning to suspect they are a bit thick.

 

 

[TrustMe]

Simply goto google images, and search for "whos prince harrys dad" and it will come up with James Hewit one of Princess Diana's lovers. He's identical to him.

Edited December 5, 2022 by TrustMe

[Murph]

15 minutes ago, Stuart Galbraith said:

https://www.marieclaire.co.uk/news/celebrity-news/james-hewitt-prince-harry-real-dad-484220

It isn't true. But as we saw with Richard III and the prince's in the tower, doubts over Royal parentage can have unfortunate effects.

Oooookay, I had not heard this one.  Somehow I doubt the Queen would have put up with this if true.  So I agree it is BS.  I think that this whole thing is going to end poorly for both King Charles and the Royals and Mr. and Mrs. Markle.  

[lucklucky]

Meghan and her neo-Marxist group wants to run the Monarchy even if they aren't the royals.

If they will be unable to achieve that they will burn it to the ground.

 

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This shows another take:

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/james-hewitt-prince-harry-father-17144597

Edited December 5, 2022 by lucklucky

[rmgill]

Somehow I doubt the two princes will end up buried beneath some otherwise unremarkable flagstones. 

[R011]

5 hours ago, lucklucky said:

Of course it matters. The Overton Window always matters.

And the window setting for asking people where they're from because they're not White has been set long ago.

[lucklucky]

Yes that is the objective, the end of liberal society and the return of puritanism.. Forbidden questions...