Stuart Galbraith Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 Yeah, Morgan epitomises everything that went wrong with Fleet Street. I shudder to think how many British soldiers lost their lives due to his 'scoop'.
Murph Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 Is Morgan that big a wanker? I just thought he was an anti gun lefty for the most part.
Stuart Galbraith Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 Yes, he is that big a wanker. Dont let the fact he has his tounge in Trumps crevice deceive you.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3716151.stm Daily Mirror editor Piers Morgan has been sacked after the newspaper conceded photos of British soldiers abusing an Iraqi were fake. In a statement the Mirror said it had fallen victim to a "calculated and malicious hoax" and that it would be "inappropriate" for Morgan to continue. The Queen's Lancashire Regiment (QLR) said the Mirror had endangered British troops by running the pictures. Roger Goodman, of the QLR, said the regiment now felt "vindicated". Mr Goodman added: "It is just a great pity it has taken so long... and that so much damage has been done in the meantime." At a news conference in Preston on Friday afternoon, the regiment demonstrated to reporters aspects of uniform and equipment which it said proved the photographs were fake. The regiment's Brigadier Geoff Sheldon said the vehicle featured in the photographs had been located in a Territorial Army base in Lancashire and had never been in Iraq. He said the QLR's reputation had been damaged by the Mirror and asked the newspaper to apologise because the evidence they were staged was "overwhelming". The Conservatives said they hoped lessons had been learned from the row. Deputy leader and foreign affairs spokesman, Michael Ancram, said: ''Looking at the facts objectively, this is the right thing for Piers Morgan to have done. "The photos that were published in the Daily Mirror have done great damage to the reputation of our troops, who are serving under some of the most difficult conditions in Iraq.'' 'Recruiting poster for al-Qaeda' The photos published in the Mirror on 1 May appeared to show British troops torturing an Iraqi detainee. In one picture a soldier is seen urinating on a hooded man while in another the hooded man is being hit with a rifle in the groin. Colonel Black, a former regiment commander of the QLR, said the pictures put lives in danger and acted as a "recruiting poster" for al-Qaeda. However one of the Mirror's informants - Soldier C - said there had been abuse in Iraq. The Territorial Army solider has been questioned by Royal Military Police after talking about his claims to the Daily Mirror. On ITV's Tonight With Trevor McDonald he said: "It did go on, it wasn't all the army, it wasn't systematic but it did happen." Downing Street refused to comment on the issue, saying it was a matter for the Mirror board. The BBC's Nicholas Witchell said it appeared Piers Morgan remained unrepentant right to the end "According to one report Mr Morgan refused the demand to apologise, was sacked and immediately escorted from the building," he said. Morgan will be replaced on a temporary basis by his deputy, Des Kelly. The newspaper released a statement saying: "The Daily Mirror published in good faith photographs which it absolutely believed were genuine images of British soldiers abusing an Iraqi prisoner. "However there is now sufficient evidence to suggest that these pictures are fakes and that the Daily Mirror has been the subject of a calculated and malicious hoax. "The Daily Mirror therefore apologises unreservedly for publishing the pictures and deeply regrets the reputational damage done to the QLR and the Army in Iraq. "The paper will continue to cooperate fully with the investigation. "The board of Trinity Mirror has decided that it would be inappropriate for Piers Morgan to continue in his role as editor of the Daily Mirror and he will therefore be stepping down with immediate effect." The Sun newspaper had offered a £50,000 reward for "information about the fake Mirror photos" but withdrew the offer following the sacking of Morgan. It comes to something when the Sun has a truer moral compass than Piers Morgan. That really is plumbing the depths.
Stuart Galbraith Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 So he is just another Fake News wanker?Imho yes.
Soren Ras Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 I generally put him in the same rough category as Bill Maher. Both have said or done some pretty bad stuff and I basically don't like either, and both of them occasionally make a valid point or observation that merits acknowledgment of same. Though Maher was funnier when he was a jackass. --Soren
Stuart Galbraith Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 A broken clock is right twice a day, but that isnt a validation.
R011 Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 I generally put him in the same rough category as Bill Maher. Both have said or done some pretty bad stuff and I basically don't like either, and both of them occasionally make a valid point or observation that merits acknowledgment of same. Though Maher was funnier when he was a jackass. --SorenHas Maher fabricated evidence of American war crimes and published it in a major newspaper?
Soren Ras Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 I generally put him in the same rough category as Bill Maher. Both have said or done some pretty bad stuff and I basically don't like either, and both of them occasionally make a valid point or observation that merits acknowledgment of same. Though Maher was funnier when he was a jackass. --SorenHas Maher fabricated evidence of American war crimes and published it in a major newspaper? No, he has not. He has openly hoped for the economy to crash because it would hurt Trump politically, which just makes him a dick. --Soren
R011 Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 One is a comedian commentator offering opinion. The other was offering defamatory and endangering lies purported to be news.
Soren Ras Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 I readily concede there is a category difference. However, mentally my mind has them both in the box called "people I don't like who sometimes have a valid point." --Soren
Nobu Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 That label on that box of one's mind probably has "Wisdom" stenciled on it. It can also be hard for one to open. I speak only from personal experience.
DB Posted February 1, 2020 Posted February 1, 2020 Morgan's getting fired after being held responsible for the fake Iraq pictures is far from being his only offence. His wikipedia entry covers it well enough. Financial dealings that were bad enough to be censured by the Press Complaints Commission, but not quite enough to get him jailed, apparently. Banshee has already mentioned the phone hacking. The "Feud" section is particularly telling, as it's clear he used his power as Mirror editor to attempt to harass people who had criticised him publicly, notably Ian Hislop and Clive Anderson.
Jeff Posted March 29, 2020 Posted March 29, 2020 How about NO! Will Harry and Meghan get US-taxpayer funded Secret Service protection in LA? Couple will have to ask for 'special help' and the final decision could rest with President Trump as Canadians bid the couple and their security costs farewell
Soren Ras Posted March 29, 2020 Posted March 29, 2020 Hmm, wasn't there a kerfuffle at one point where Americans decided once and for all not to foot the bill for British royals (or ex-royals)? I'm pretty sure I read about that. --Soren
Mikel2 Posted March 29, 2020 Posted March 29, 2020 Why on earth should they get taxpayer funded protection??
Jeff Posted March 29, 2020 Posted March 29, 2020 Why on earth should they get taxpayer funded protection?? Because Meghan demands it. Poor Harry is in for a fit if the US denies it. Maybe her TDS rants weren't so smart, but then crazy people never accept responsibility for anything.
R011 Posted March 29, 2020 Posted March 29, 2020 (edited) Its the Daily Mail so its probably full of lies and distortion. Edited March 29, 2020 by R011
R011 Posted March 29, 2020 Posted March 29, 2020 (edited) I skimmed through it. I do they carefully did not say that any request for US taxpayer paid security was made or will be made or even been contemplated by the Sussexes. Nor have I noticed any particular ire directed at them here for leaving - or any interest at all. In other words, there is no story here. Oh, and Raptor fans are over "Leonard Kahwi" leaving for LA last year. Edited March 29, 2020 by R011
R011 Posted March 29, 2020 Posted March 29, 2020 You guys do know that they're suing the Mail for lying about them and are aware of its history of defamation and invasion of privacy?
Jeff Posted March 29, 2020 Posted March 29, 2020 Didn't they say they would stay in Canada until Trump was gone? What happened? I thought America called "no backsies" when she became a royal?
R011 Posted March 29, 2020 Posted March 29, 2020 (edited) When did they say that? Oh, found it. She (alone) said she might stay in Canada where she was then working should Trump win the 2016 election. This seems to have been when she first started dating Harry. Meghan also hasn't been living in the UK long enough to get citizenship there so she is still an American citizen. Edited March 29, 2020 by R011
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