Tim the Tank Nut Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 word is spreading that a B17 went downnothing on the news yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel2 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Bradley Airport in CT. Five dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LT Ducky Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Collings Foundation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Nelson Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 https://www.wickedlocal.com/news/20191002/updated-at-least-5-dead-after-crash-of-collings-foundation-b-17-plane-at-bradley-airport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul G. Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Tragic. I flew in 909 a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitflegal Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I was crawling all over the B-17 a little over a week ago and spent some time talking with the crew (Wings of Freedom is part of the Collins Foundation just like the American Heritage Museum I'm at). God bless them, they were good people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonJ Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Its a sad loss. I'm sure they were all good men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim the Tank Nut Posted October 3, 2019 Author Share Posted October 3, 2019 some reports are lost one engine, another says two. I lifetime ago I worked with a B24 Liberator pilot. He said he had a friend that brought a B17 in on two engines but that a B24 was in trouble as soon as a first engine failed.By my count that leaves 8 or 9 airworthy B17 left.I hope the aviation community can keep them flying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim the Tank Nut Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 That didn't take longBlumnethal (Team D) has come down on vintage aircraft as not safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 That didn't take longBlumnethal (Team D) has come down on vintage aircraft as not safe. The man has and always will be a sleazy ambulance chaser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) Even with a full passenger load, the Fort would have been far under max t/o weight and able to climb out for a normal landing, even on three engines. I'm waiting to hear what the pilots' actions were. One report I read said that they were trying to return to the field; does this mean they tried an immediate turn-around, entering a low-speed stall? Edited October 4, 2019 by shep854 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiloMorai Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Have come across some talk that the fuel tanks were filled with JP6. I find that hard to believe but.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim the Tank Nut Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 the pilot was old but experienced. They should have been light, not heavy. There should not have been a shortage of engine power even if one was down. If there was a fuel issue that would be a different story although I'd expect all engines to go together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiloMorai Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 The pilot had many hours in the B-17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim the Tank Nut Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 correct, that is why I think pilot error is less likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Great video on YouTube. Apparently, they touched down but swerved hard right and crashed into the deicing facility. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpv-xxYQ8-o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiloMorai Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 7300 hours in the B-17 for the pilot, https://www.thestar.com/news/world/us/2019/10/03/the-latest-airman-aboard-b-17-opened-hatch-allowed-escape.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) Thanks for the video. The description sounds like a possible problem with the right main landing gear. I've had it happen to me, in a Piper Arrow. Thankfully, in a far smaller bird, it was relatively minor. Edited October 4, 2019 by shep854 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 That press conference. "are the breakaway poles designed to break away?" Expect the news coverage to be awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKTanker Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 If they struck landing approach lights it leads me to understand that they shorted the runway. So that's a question requiring an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmgill Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Yep. I had heard/seen reports indicating an approach from the north east. But Runway 6 is from the south west to north east. That means they landed short, veered right, crossed Taxiway Charlie and went into the de-icing facility to the south of Runway 60/240. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Galbraith Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 On a B17, are the flaps hydraulic, or are they manually cranked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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