Murph Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 Nope, what is it that makes Muslims so enthusiastic for murder?
Wobbly Head Posted December 27, 2023 Posted December 27, 2023 13 hours ago, Murph said: Nope, what is it that makes Muslims so enthusiastic for murder? My feelings is it's not the Muslim faith itself but rather their youth being currpted by people wanting power and to keep it. Young minds are not known for critical thinking. They are less likely to question things. Like isn't murder and suicide a bit of a no no in the Koran? Or if we defund the police and give up or guns who is going to defend us against the criminals? They also don't see that while they are in poverty fighting their good fight. Their leader are sitting comfortably in their mansions picking out their new yacht ,or flying in their private jet. To stay in a five star hotel while discussing climate change and CO2 emissions. Almost ever faith or ideological political stand has had people who exploited the stupid. The bad thing is most of the time they don't compromise or back down, but double down and historically things go bad when that happens. Orwell knew what he was writing about in Animal farm and 1984.
sunday Posted January 19 Posted January 19 https://www.scifiwright.com/2024/01/permit-free-gun-carry-in-ohio/ Quote Permit-Free Gun Carry in Ohio I rarely find statistics persuasive, since it is too easy to manipulate them to support either side of any argument, and rarely are the assumptions and definitions visible. What, for example, is included in “gun violence”? Does this include use of a firearm in a suicide? However, when a statistic confirms what common sense already shows, I do not mind quoting them. Gun violence in 6 out of the 8 largest Ohio cities dropped significantly after Ohio legalized permit-free carry of guns across the entire state in 2022: Columbus: -12% Cleveland: -6% Toledo: -18% Akron: -18% Parma: -22% Canton: -5% https://www.cleveland19.com/2024/01/04/ohio-sees-drop-gun-crimes-across-major-cities-after-permitless-carry-law-study-shows/ Link to study
Skywalkre Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Didn't see this mentioned anywhere... Quote Jury finds Jennifer Crumbley, the Michigan school shooter’s mother, guilty of manslaughter PONTIAC, Mich. (AP) — A Michigan jury convicted a school shooter’s mother of involuntary manslaughter Tuesday in the killings of four students in 2021, making her the first parent in the U.S. to be held responsible for a child carrying out a mass school attack. Prosecutors say Jennifer Crumbley had a duty under state law to prevent her son, who was 15 at the time, from harming others. She was accused of failing to secure a gun and ammunition at home and failing to get help to support Ethan Crumbley’s mental health. The four guilty verdicts — one for each student slain at Oxford High School — were returned after roughly 11 hours of deliberations. https://apnews.com/article/oxford-high-school-mother-charged-01f336607a496c5f9ff0cb3a7434d073
urbanoid Posted February 12 Posted February 12 2 hours ago, rmgill said: So the shooting in Texas at Osteen’s church is curious. Clearly white non-hispanic. Will go into white crime statistics.
Skywalkre Posted February 14 Posted February 14 (edited) On 2/12/2024 at 12:16 PM, rmgill said: So the shooting in Texas at Osteen’s church is curious. Eh... looking like more of the same. Multiple news stories out there (here's the first in my search) stating she repeatedly threatened her neighbors and seemingly nothing was ever done. The police have already responded that they did everything right but that seems suspect if the neighbors' accounts are accurate. CNN is also reporting today she had a history of mental illness, was prone to violence as a result, and was not currently being treated for it. That story claims the mother-in-law had tried to get custody of the child who was injured but was unsuccessful. So... yeah. Same shit, different day. Did police do everything they should have beforehand with her actions around her neighbors and would sensible legislation have prevented her from obtaining the firearm? Probably a no to the former and yes to the latter but not that that will change anything in this country. Edited February 14 by Skywalkre
Skywalkre Posted February 14 Posted February 14 Breaking story of a shooting at the KC Chiefs victory parade. At least one reported dead and two in custody. Initial reports indicate zero reason to believe it was terrorism or politically motivated.
rmgill Posted February 15 Posted February 15 But two actors involved? Interesting the people in the crowd taking one down and holding for police. Will be interesting to see what develops as more details emerge and are confirmed. As to initial reports indicating zero reason to believe it was terrorism or politically motivated, how about we wait a few days before we rule out political motives or anything else ok?
rmgill Posted February 15 Posted February 15 Hmm. Multiple suspects. Gang implications. Some under age. No booking photos. Gun control cries. 🤔
Murph Posted February 16 Posted February 16 A good girl/guy with a gun wins, an unarmed subject always loses. Get a gun, and use it as needed, always obeying the law.
Murph Posted February 16 Posted February 16 More guns, less crime. It works every.single.time. Criminals (and Democrats/Liberals/Euros) hate an armed citizenry since they cannot have their way with them. Ohio sees decrease in gun crime and crime in general after passing constitutional carry. Guns save lives. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/02/swing-state-passed-constitutional-carry-sees-decrease-gun/
BansheeOne Posted February 20 Posted February 20 On 6/15/2023 at 3:35 PM, BansheeOne said: Not sure whether this should be in the mass shooting thread, but multiple media report that the suspect is also a US citizen. Apparently they happened to meet in the area, hiked together, and followed a footpath to a vantage point where he assaulted one of the women, aged 21. When the other, aged 22, tried to help, he pushed her down the slope, and later did the same to the other woman who died in hospital. It's getting lots of attention here due to the touristy setting. ETA: https://www.dw.com/en/woman-dies-after-attack-near-germanys-neuschwanstein-castle/a-65922799 Continuing this misplaced topic where it fell: Quote American admits rape, murder of US tourists at German castle 8 hours ago The 31-year-old has admitted to attacking two women near Germany's famed Neuschwanstein castle, one of the country's most visited sites. He has been charged with rape, murder and attempted murder. The trial of a US man accused of murder and rape near Germany's famed Neuschwanstein Castle began on Monday. The man admitted to the charges during the start of his trial. The 31-year-old is accused of having pushed two fellow US tourists into a ravine close to the popular tourist attraction in the southern state of Bavaria last June. One of the women died as a result of her injuries. His client was "deeply ashamed" about his actions and wished to apologise to the victim's family, the lawyer added. What we know about the attack The women, aged 21 and 22, had been hiking on June 14, 2023, during a visit to Germany following graduation from university. Having approached and then persuaded the women to follow him down a trail to a lookout point near the Marienbrücke bridge, the man allegedly shoved the younger woman to the ground and proceeded to undress her. When the 22-year-old woman intervened, he is said to have pushed her down a slope. German prosecutors suspect the man then strangled the younger woman until she was unconscious before raping her and also throwing her down the slope. The 22-year-old suffered serious injuries but survived. The younger woman was air-lifted to hospital by mountain rescue but later died from her injuries. The man is charged with murder, rape resulting in death, attempted murder, grievous bodily harm and possession of child pornography, after files were allegedly found on his phone and computer. [...] https://www.dw.com/en/american-admits-rape-murder-of-us-tourists-at-german-castle/a-68295315 By one report, a German couple happened upon the rape in progress, but took it for consensual sex and discreetely withdrew, which is of course unfortunate.
DB Posted February 20 Posted February 20 I would be quite surprised if any of the family, or the surviving victim, really GAS whether he feels "deeply ashamed" of his actions. How long can he expect to stay in prison in Germany, because I for one would want to see them losing the keys.
Ssnake Posted February 20 Posted February 20 Rape, minimum five years, maximum five years (§177(8) StGB). Rape, resulting in non-intentional (but negligent) death, between ten years and life (§178 StGB). Murder, as described in this case: Life (§211(1) in combination with §211(2) StGB). Alternatively, manslaughter (§212 StGB, but it's hard to imagine how the court might decide this way), minimum five years, maximum: life. A Life sentence usually gets a first parole opportunity after 15 years, unless the court recognizes a particular seriousness of guilt (§57a StGB), in which case parole is ruled out.
BansheeOne Posted February 20 Posted February 20 21 minutes ago, Ssnake said: Murder, as described in this case: Life (§211(1) in combination with §211(2) StGB). Alternatively, manslaughter (§212 StGB, but it's hard to imagine how the court might decide this way), minimum five years, maximum: life. One of the terms defining murder is killing "to enable or cover up a crime". Given that he pushed the first girl down the slope because she interfered with the rape (and attempts generally carry the same punishment as a completed act in German law), and the second obviously to get rid of the victim/witness, both parts apply. "Particular seriousness of guilt" is not legally defined, but multiple victims of murder (including attempted) is a common justification, along with particular brutality or cruelty, "abnormal" sexual or violent tendencies, etc. Pretty sure he'll get hit with that. There will still be the eventual opportunity of parole, but it will be decided down the road by another court when he becomes eligible, based upon conduct in prison. Precedent suggests a range between just little more than the regular 15 years after 16, and the 50 initially set for a serial rapist/killer sentenced in 1960; after complaints, that was first reduced to 42, then a little under 38. That guy died in prison anyway.
BansheeOne Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Stabbing spree in a Wuppertal high school yesterday; four hurt, two of which were temporarily critical, as well as the suspect, reportedly from self-inflicted wounds. The latter a 17-year-old Turkish-German student who left a note saying he had an "inner urge to kill". A teacher persuaded him to stop, and he was calm when police arrived, but then got agitated again, moved towards officers and said he wanted to get shot; they subdued him without use of firearms though. Depending upon the source, he is being described as an islamist, satanist, psycho, or all of the above.
BansheeOne Posted February 26 Posted February 26 On 2/20/2024 at 4:47 PM, BansheeOne said: "Particular seriousness of guilt" is not legally defined, but multiple victims of murder (including attempted) is a common justification, along with particular brutality or cruelty, "abnormal" sexual or violent tendencies, etc. Ah yes, per reports from the second day of the trial I'd say filming yourself raping and strangling a woman on your cellphone which also contains a load of pornographic images of minors, including your own sister since she was 14, rather satisfies the definition of "abnormal".
rmgill Posted February 26 Posted February 26 Banshee is suddenly channeling British Understatement. There's gottta be a good long german compound word to describe that sort of awful person best left in an oubliette.
Rick Posted February 27 Posted February 27 On 2/14/2024 at 4:43 PM, Skywalkre said: Eh... looking like more of the same. Multiple news stories out there (here's the first in my search) stating she repeatedly threatened her neighbors and seemingly nothing was ever done. The police have already responded that they did everything right but that seems suspect if the neighbors' accounts are accurate. CNN is also reporting today she had a history of mental illness, was prone to violence as a result, and was not currently being treated for it. That story claims the mother-in-law had tried to get custody of the child who was injured but was unsuccessful. So... yeah. Same shit, different day. Did police do everything they should have beforehand with her actions around her neighbors and would sensible legislation have prevented her from obtaining the firearm? Probably a no to the former and yes to the latter but not that that will change anything in this country. Transgenderism is a clear lack of morality, in this case turned into a mental illness.
BansheeOne Posted March 1 Posted March 1 Quote Germany: 4 shot dead overnight, soldier turns himself in 22 minutes ago Police and prosecutors in Lower Saxony say a Bundeswehr soldier turned himself in after four people, including one child, were shot and killed in two locations overnight. A Bundeswehr soldier is suspected of killing four people overnight in the northern German state of Lower Saxony, police and public prosecutors said on Friday. Rotenburg police and the prosecutor's office in Verden issued a joint statement saying that one child was among the four dead bodies discovered on Friday morning at two locations. The shootings took place at two domestic residences, one in Westervesede and the other in Bothel. "The currently suspected Bundeswehr soldier turned himself in shortly after the crimes and was arrested by police officers," authorities said in a joint statement. Investigations were ongoing, they said. "The motive of the perpetrator is currently not definitively known. A motive based on familial ties cannot be ruled out," police and prosecutors said. https://www.dw.com/en/germany-4-shot-dead-overnight-soldier-turns-himself-in/a-68414693
BansheeOne Posted March 11 Posted March 11 On 2/26/2024 at 7:15 PM, BansheeOne said: Ah yes, per reports from the second day of the trial I'd say filming yourself raping and strangling a woman on your cellphone which also contains a load of pornographic images of minors, including your own sister since she was 14, rather satisfies the definition of "abnormal". Yup. Quote Germany: US man gets life sentence for Neuschwanstein attack Published 56 minutes ago | last updated 7 minutes ago A 31-year-old American has been convicted of murder, attempted murder and rape after he attacked two women near Germany's famed Neuschwanstein castle. An American man on Monday was sentenced to life in prison for committing rape, murder and attempted murder in an attack on two tourists near Neuschwanstein castle in Germany's southeastern state of Bavaria. Presiding judge Christoph Schwiebacher said the offense was particularly serious and that the man would be unlikely to receive parole in 15 years, which is the earliest a life sentence can be suspended. The man admitted to the crimes during the start of the trial. [...] https://www.dw.com/en/germany-us-man-gets-life-sentence-for-neuschwanstein-attack/a-68489489
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