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2 hours ago, BansheeOne said:

Damn right, London shows how safe a city can be if run by Republicans!

And American tourist guides talk about how dangerous it is.

And their media loved the oddity that was that one year when in January there were more murders in London than in NYC.

However, for violent crime in recent memory, London isn't getting better.

Also, one thing that people forget about NYC is what caused the trend of decreasing crime. As far as I am aware it was Giuliani demanding the "zero-tolerance" policy, but my memory might be a bit flaky. (Wikipedia looks like it's trying to take credit for this away from RG, but that wouldn't be a surprise, nor would it be impossible for it to be correct to do so.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#Rudy_Giuliani

 

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/crime/fbi-zero-leads-texas-family-shooting

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“I can tell you right now, we have zero leads,” James Smith, the FBI special agent in charge, told reporters on Monday.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement records indicate that Oropeza, whose full name is Francisco Oropeza Perez-Torres, is a Mexican national who has been deported multiple times back to Mexico. An immigration judge ordered his removal in March 2009, and ICE agents apprehended and removed Oropeza several more times in September 2009, January 2012, and July 2016.

Oropeza was also previously convicted in Montgomery, Texas, of driving while intoxicated in January 2012 and sentenced to jail time.

 

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The victims were identified as Sonia Argentina Guzman, 25, Diana Velazquez Alvarado, 21, Julisa Molina Rivera, 31, Jose Jonathan Casarez, 18, and Daniel Enrique Laso, 9, whom authorities originally said was 8 years old. Two of the victims were found in a bedroom laying over two children in an apparent attempt to shield them, Capers said.

All five of the victims are believed to be from Honduras, but investigators do not believe those at the home were all members of a single family.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Ivanhoe said:

investigators do not believe those at the home were all members of a single family.

Not a common surname between them all, so...

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21 hours ago, BansheeOne said:

Damn right, London shows how safe a city can be if run by Republicans!

Clearly it would be better if run by Japanese parties if we look at Tokyo for comparison. London would be better off too! 

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2 hours ago, sunday said:

Not a common surname between them all, so...

I am sure this incident will be discussed in detail by the media. 

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Most at the house were apparently relatives and friends on a weekend visit.

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Suspect in Texas massacre had been deported 4 times after entering US illegally, ICE source says

By Ed Lavandera, Holly Yan, Elizabeth Wolfe and Rosa Flores, CNN

Updated 2:57 PM EDT, Mon May 1, 2023

Cleveland, Texas (CNN) — The man wanted by law enforcement for the killings of five Texas neighbors – including a 9-year-old boy – had entered the US illegally and been deported by immigration officials at least four times, a US Immigration and Customs Enforcement source said.

The suspect, identified by ICE as Francisco Oropesa Perez-Torres, was first removed by an immigration judge in March 2009, the ICE source told CNN on Monday.

“At an unknown time and location, Perez-Torres unlawfully reentered the United States, and was apprehended and removed several more times by ICE Enforcement and Removal Operations in September 2009, January 2012, and July 2016,” the source said.

Oropesa’s current immigration status is unclear, and it is not known how long he had been in the US since he was last deported.

Authorities are now pleading for the public’s help in their search for Oropesa, 38, who they say opened fire after he was asked to stop shooting his rifle near a neighboring family’s home in Cleveland, a city of about 8,000 people northeast of Houston.

Oropesa is considered armed and dangerous, an FBI official said, as more than 250 law enforcement officers and $80,000 in reward money have been devoted to capturing him. The massacre is among more than 180 US mass shootings in just the first four months of the year and, like others, seemingly stemmed from an ordinary encounter.

About 10 to 20 minutes before Friday’s massacre, Wilson Garcia and two other men had walked over to Oropesa’s yard to ask him to stop shooting so close to their home because their baby was sleeping, Garcia told CNN. They’d asked Oropesa to shoot on the other side of his property, he said.

[...]

The gunman later came to Garcia’s home, shooting his wife, Sonia Argentina Guzman, in the doorway before killing three other adults and Garcia’s son, Daniel Enrique Laso-Guzman, the grieving father said.

[...]

When the shooting began, Garcia – the widower and newly single father of two – was gathered at his home with relatives, godparents and friends, he said.

“The other people that were there would visit over the weekend to spend time with us,” he said. “They were godparents and friends.”

After officials confirmed those killed were all Honduran nationals, the Honduran Foreign Ministry is preparing to repatriate their remains, it said.

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https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/01/us/cleveland-texas-neighbor-shooting-monday/index.html

2 hours ago, rmgill said:

Clearly it would be better if run by Japanese parties if we look at Tokyo for comparison. London would be better off too! 

As long as they can avoid having Berlin city administration dropped on them (though there's some hope with the new crew). 😁

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21 hours ago, DB said:

And American tourist guides talk about how dangerous it is.

And their media loved the oddity that was that one year when in January there were more murders in London than in NYC.

However, for violent crime in recent memory, London isn't getting better.

Also, one thing that people forget about NYC is what caused the trend of decreasing crime. As far as I am aware it was Giuliani demanding the "zero-tolerance" policy, but my memory might be a bit flaky. (Wikipedia looks like it's trying to take credit for this away from RG, but that wouldn't be a surprise, nor would it be impossible for it to be correct to do so.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#Rudy_Giuliani

 

The violent crime decrease in NYC is something our best experts are constantly debating. You can go with Giuliani, Bratton bring a great chief of police, the crack epidemic killed a lot of violent criminals, readier access to abortion, gentrification, getting rid of lead pipes, take your pick depending on your political preferences. :)

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On 5/1/2023 at 9:37 AM, Murph said:

Again, it will vanish since the guy was a Mexican National who should never have had the gun, and his victims were fellow Hispanics.  It does not fit "The Narrative".  No MAGA here.

It may have vanished from the national news, it certainly hasn't here in TX, has it?  The FBI is on it, though, posting a most wanted picture of a family man in Fort Worth, some two hundred miles from the murder scene.  Oops.  Not that it matters, Pancho is already back in Mexico.

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3 hours ago, DKTanker said:

 Not that it matters, Pancho is already back in Mexico.

 

For now. In a year, I expect him back in the US of A. 

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As for the oopsie on the Most Wanted photo, perhaps to the Feebies all Latinos look alike? 

 

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Victor Davis Hanson on gun control

POSTED BY DAVID HARDY · 30 APRIL 2023 11:22 AM

At American Greatness:


"Defunding the police is based on the implicit assumption that greater criminality and violence, mostly directed against the most vulnerable, is a small price to pay, given a) the stigmatized criminal is given exemption, and b) the architects of defunding have mechanisms to ensure they are [not] exposed to inevitable spiraling crime rates. 

Ditto gun control. The socialist point of neutering the Second Amendment is not just to disarm the populace, much less to prevent shootings. Rather, the aim is to ensure the government has a complete monopoly on arms, so that it can calibrate both the degree and nature of law enforcement, and thus render the citizen compliant and obsequious in order to ensure his protection from both criminals and the state."

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Hiding under a pile of laundry apparently. That happens when the Hollywood writers go on strike.

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US: Texas man accused of killing neighbors arrested

5 hours ago

The suspect reportedly shot his neighbors after he was accused of firing a gun in his yard. The arrest ends a mass search operation that involved more than 250 law enforcement personnel.

A man believed to be behind the killings of five of his neighbors in Texas has been arrested, authorities said on Tuesday.

The suspect allegedly shot five people, including a 9-year-old boy, with an AR-15-style rifle after his neighbors had complained about the noise he was causing by firing a gun in his yard at night.

"We now have this man in custody," San Jacinto County Sheriff Greg Capers told reporters. "He was caught hiding in a closet underneath some laundry."

The suspect will be charged with five counts of murder. Bail was set a $5 million (€4.5 million).

Manhunt ends after four days

The search operation involved more than 250 law enforcement officers and other authorities also offered a $50,000 (€45,000) reward for information leading to the suspect's whereabouts.

The FBI said investigators received more than 200 tips.

The suspect was identified as a 38-year-old Mexican national who immigration officials said had been deported from the US four times since 2009.

Montgomery County Sheriff Rand Henderson said the man was arrested without incident on Tuesday, four days after the shooting.

Officers found him near the town of Conroe, some 20 miles (32 kilometers) west of the home in Cleveland where the incident took place.

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https://www.dw.com/en/us-texas-man-accused-of-killing-neighbors-arrested/a-65497342

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Primary school shooting in Belgrade, 9 killed and 6 wounded. Minor (not clear ATM if student of the school or not) with handgun. Shooter arrested.

 

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5 hours ago, BansheeOne said:

US: Texas man accused of killing neighbors arrested

He's not a TEXAS MAN. He's a Mexican man. He's a Mexican National, here illegally. He's been deported 5 times. Possession of a firearm is a felony by an illegal immigrant. Lawful resident aliens may own firearms but he was not. 

For those mumbling about more gun control how would that have worked here? 

 

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10 hours ago, DKTanker said:

Surprisingly got caught today by BP.  

Chalk up another one for La Migra

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that headline is a perfect example of how the "news" manipulates in subtle fashion.  It is well known by now that the criminal is a Mexican national but right away it refers to him as if he is a US citizen.  The first two words are a lie.

How are Second Amendment supporters supposed to behave when the deck is so thoroughly stacked against?

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1 hour ago, bojan said:

Primary school shooting in Belgrade, 9 killed and 6 wounded. Minor (not clear ATM if student of the school or not) with handgun. Shooter arrested.

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Teenage boy kills nine people in Belgrade school shooting

2 hours ago

At least eight children are among the dead and several others were wounded after a teenager went on a shooting spree at a primary school in Belgrade.

Police said eight children and a security guard were killed when a teenage boy opened fire at a school in Serbia's capital of Belgrade on Wednesday.

At least six additional children and one teacher were also injured and are receiving emergency treatment.

The Interior Ministry said the 14-year-old assailant used his father's gun in the shooting at the Vladislav Ribnikar elementary school, whose students would typically range in age from 6 to 15.

"The police sent all available patrols immediately to the spot and arrested a suspected minor — a seventh grade student who is suspected of firing several shots from his father's gun in the direction of students and school security," the ministry said in a statement.

Police were investigating a motive. "All police forces are still on the ground and are intensively working to shed light on all the facts and circumstances that led to this tragedy," the ministry added. 

Shooter targeted teacher first

Police said they responded to a call about the shooting around 8:40 a.m. local time.

"I was able to hear the shooting. It was non-stop," a student who was in a sports class downstairs when the gunfire erupted. "I didn't know what was happening. We were receiving some messages on the phone."

One of the children who witnessed the shooting told her father she was in the classroom when the shooting began.

"She managed to escape. (The boy) ...first shot the teacher and then he started shooting randomly," the girl's father, Milan Milosevic, told broadcaster N1.

[...]

The last mass shooting in Serbia happened in 2015 when Sinisa Zlatic killed five people and wounded twenty-two with an assault rifle in a cafe in the town of Zitiste.

"We never had such kind of...attack on children, from their schoolmate," Igor Bozic, a journalist at broadcaster N1 told DW. 

https://www.dw.com/en/teenage-boy-kills-nine-people-in-belgrade-school-shooting/a-65499008

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To no one surprise

https://vdare.com/posts/illegal-alien-mass-murder-suspect-was-santa-muerte-cult-member

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Santa Muerte adherents throughout Mexico, where the cult blossomed among drug trafficking cartel syndicates in recent decades and also the non-cartel criminal underworld, believe prayers and offerings to Santa Muerte (the Saint of Death) as well as other saints, idols, and figurines, protect drug loads and stave off arrest for their criminality. Some have taken on the symbols of the cult for social and cultural reasons. One of Oropesa’s tattoos features the iconic Santa Muerte figure, a skeletal figure draped in robes and holding a sickle.

So another satanist.

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/tv/2017/03/27/believer-reza-aslan-santa-muerte-mexico-clip-2.cnn

Posted
16 hours ago, DKTanker said:

Surprisingly got caught today by BP.  

Not just Border Patrol, BORTAC. 

BP agents have more gunfight experience than most leg infantry units. I can only imagine what BORTAC personnel are like. 

I realized there was no hope of the Feebies finding the perp, as he's never worn a MAGA cap. Speaking of Feebies, the decision has been made that the Nashville shooting was not terrorism, in contrast to the concerned parents in Fairfax County.

 

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9 hours ago, BansheeOne said:

That school was always full of elitist fucks and had decades long bulling problem (due the most student being elitist fucks).

Shooter was bullied, it was reported twice (and reports happen extremely rarely), but nothing was done about it. He took his father's gun after watching him type a passcode to a safe. He apparently planned this for a quite some time. Shooter was excellent student but with bulling his grades started dropping. It appears that last straw was from history teacher who gave him bad mark (1 - no-pass, marks are 1-5 with 1 being no-pass, 5 being best). 

Worst school "shooting" with multiple casualties in former Yugoslavia was in 1980s when a child brought WW2 grenade at  school sport manifestation and activated it among public in some village school in Macedonia. It was never found out if he activated it willingly or not, but was highly suspected it was done willingly. Last school on the territory of Serbia with multiple casualties was in the mid-'70s. Last single casualty event was in the 90s, when principal who has tackled student with a gun was killed in the struggle.

 

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2 hours ago, Ivanhoe said:

BP agents have more gunfight experience than most leg infantry units. I can only imagine what BORTAC personnel are like. 

They're up there in experience from what I've been told. 

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So you remember the Nashville shooter, the one that probably drinks beer produced by Transheuser-Busch?  As you probably know She/he/it wrote a manifesto, said manifesto being held by the Nashville PD.  The PD is now saying that because they didn't release the manifesto for public dissemination, they are being sued under a public records act, and therefore cannot release the manifesto because it is evidence in a lawsuit.  A lawsuit demanding its public release.

Anybody else's head spinning?

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No, i've come to expect this sort of fuckery. 

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