Mass Shooting

[NickM]

58 minutes ago, Murph said:

Gays against Groomers, is a great group, and banned, defunded by Patreon, etc.  Why?  Because they call out the Gay child molesting groups, which do not represent the vast majority of gay people.  But unfortunately the Gay child molesters have become the face of the Gay movement.  

The Atlanta gay child molesters: https://townhall.com/tipsheet/miacathell/2023/03/30/zulock-civil-forfeiture-hearing-march-10-n2621123

Shoot! It's behind a pay wall 

[Murph]

Oh heck, I have no issues, but I run some serious ad blocking.....

[Murph]

F'ing Awesome!   Armed Grandma "neutralizes" armed robber.   Hope the robber died hard and in agony.

 

[rmgill]

One of the reasons I find the national patchwork of carry laws to be absurd is the fact that my own grandmother carried a little 25 ACP pistol EVERYWHERE she went. Even to California. Very illegal, but she didn't bloody well care. 

[Murph]

A DOJ funded study proves gun control DOES NOT WORK, unless you want to disarm law abiding citizens in order to crush them under the Federal jackboot.

CLAIM: "We can ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines in this country once again. I got that done when I was a senator. It passed. It was law for the longest time, and it brought down these mass killings. We should do it again."

TRUTH: A 2004 Department of Justice funded study from the University of Pennsylvania Center of Criminology concluded the ban cannot be credited with a decrease in violence carried out with firearms. The report is titled "An Updated Assessment of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban: Impacts on Gun Markets and Gun Violence, 1994-2003."

RATING: Biden's claim that the Clinton-era ban on modern sporting rifles "brought down mass killings" is FALSE. 

[Stargrunt6]

Remember the Vegas shooter?  New motive just dropped.

I always thought his motive was strictly for dopamine,  since he lived a hedonistic, empty life 

https://apnews.com/article/las-vegas-shooter-9bbd180cf3aa6d3ea1a37bbfb7144ae1

[Angrybk]

2 minutes ago, Stargrunt6 said:

Remember the Vegas shooter?  New motive just dropped.

I always thought his motive was strictly for dopamine,  since he lived a hedonistic, empty life 

https://apnews.com/article/las-vegas-shooter-9bbd180cf3aa6d3ea1a37bbfb7144ae1

My initial response was “oh, ok, that’s why he massacred a crowd at a country western concert across the street from the casino” but on second thought, for people that mental it might be a motive. 

[Stargrunt6]

6 minutes ago, Angrybk said:

My initial response was “oh, ok, that’s why he massacred a crowd at a country western concert across the street from the casino” but on second thought, for people that mental it might be a motive. 

I don't think he was mentally ill. Just immoral and intoxicated. 

[R011]

25 minutes ago, Stargrunt6 said:

I don't think he was mentally ill. Just immoral and intoxicated. 

Not legally insane in the sense that he was not criminally responsible by resaon of a mental illness, but probably diagnosible with a serious condition.

[Murph]

How to immediately prevent a mass shooting:

[rmgill]

2 hours ago, Stargrunt6 said:

Remember the Vegas shooter?  New motive just dropped.

I always thought his motive was strictly for dopamine,  since he lived a hedonistic, empty life 

https://apnews.com/article/las-vegas-shooter-9bbd180cf3aa6d3ea1a37bbfb7144ae1

Jesus. A dude with access to that much cash could have built a full sized MG and done far worse damage with a belt fed. Bump stock ban my left foot. 

[rmgill]

3 hours ago, Murph said:

A DOJ funded study proves gun control DOES NOT WORK, unless you want to disarm law abiding citizens in order to crush them under the Federal jackboot.

 

 

 

Wait, it was claimed we can't do research on firearms crime....

[DKTanker]

3 hours ago, Murph said:

A DOJ funded study proves gun control DOES NOT WORK, unless you want to disarm law abiding citizens in order to crush them under the Federal jackboot.

Ross Perot got an awful lot of votes, almost 20% of the popular vote during the 1992 presidential election, and one of the planks from his platform was the rounding up and confiscation of firearms.

[EchoFiveMike]

2 hours ago, Stargrunt6 said:

Remember the Vegas shooter?  New motive just dropped.

I always thought his motive was strictly for dopamine,  since he lived a hedonistic, empty life 

https://apnews.com/article/las-vegas-shooter-9bbd180cf3aa6d3ea1a37bbfb7144ae1

OK, since it's the Fedbois saying it, we know what was NOT the motive.  S/F....Ken M

[Stargrunt6]

9 minutes ago, DKTanker said:

Ross Perot got an awful lot of votes, almost 20% of the popular vote during the 1992 presidential election, and one of the planks from his platform was the rounding up and confiscation of firearms.

A lot of conservatives have been some of his biggest fans lately.  Weird.

[rmgill]

 

[Murph]

16 hours ago, DKTanker said:

Ross Perot got an awful lot of votes, almost 20% of the popular vote during the 1992 presidential election, and one of the planks from his platform was the rounding up and confiscation of firearms.

Perot got so many votes since people were mad at Bush for his "No New Taxes" BS.  It was a self inflicted wound.

[rmgill]

Also, the breadth of 2nd amendment legal scholarship was minuscule at the time. Everyone was also still believing in the myth of the success of gun control save for some folks who were looking deeper. 

[DKTanker]

6 hours ago, Murph said:

Perot got so many votes since people were mad at Bush for his "No New Taxes" BS.  It was a self inflicted wound.

One that a more deft politician could have defended, but probably should have avoided.  He broke his pledge when the Democrat held House held the troops hostage in Saudi Arabia.  The Democrats were refusing to authorize funds to support those troops as they defended Saudi Arabia from what looked like a certain invasion of the Kingdom after Iraq had just gobbled up Kuwait, unless Bush the Weak capitulated and agreed to raise taxes.

[rmgill]

Ok. Operation Blazing Sword / Pink Pistols has a statement out. I think Erin did nicely here. No mealy mouthed beating around in the final point. 

 

STATEMENT ON THE COVENANT SCHOOL SHOOTING IN NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE

Daytona Beach, Florida, 31 March 2023: Our hearts are broken by the senseless, tragic murders of children and staff at The Covenant School in Nashville, Tennessee. Operation Blazing Sword - Pink Pistols denounces and condemns the actions of the murderer. It does not matter what the gender identity or sexual orientation of the killer may be; what matters is that all Americans strive to build a better world so that future generations do not have to face these horrors.   While we do not yet have enough information to truly comprehend the motives of the killer, in our zeal to condemn these monstrous actions we must be careful not to condemn innocents with the same brush. There are millions of law-abiding gun owners who have committed no crimes with their firearms, and yet are being charged in the court of public opinion with being culpable for these murders. Similarly, millions of peaceful transgender men and women are being called mentally ill, deviants, and other derogatory terms simply for trying to live as their authentic selves.   At no other time in recent history has the fight for both transgender rights and firearm rights been more critical. We have seen legislation limiting, or outright banning, gender-affirming care which has the potential to impact many transgender individuals and restrict their ability to live happy lives. We have also seen states, in reaction to NYSRPA v. Bruen, pass legislation limiting, or outright banning, lawful carry of firearms which have the potential to save many lives from violence against their person.   The ethos of Operation Blazing Sword - Pink Pistols has always been, and will forever remain, that Armed Queers Don’t Get Bashed. We declare, in the strongest terms possible, that our organization is defensive and only defensive. We denounce, in the strongest terms possible, any offensive actions taken in our name.   We do not act out of vengeance. We act only in defense. Anyone who does otherwise is not one of us, and we will act to stop them by any legal means necessary.

[Murph]

It is a good start.

[DKTanker]

Arafat could have written that statement.

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The ethos of Operation Blazing Sword - Pink Pistols has always been, and will forever remain, that Armed Queers Don’t Get Bashed. We declare, in the strongest terms possible, that our organization is defensive and only defensive. We denounce, in the strongest terms possible, any offensive actions taken in our name.

Speech is violence, so we've been shouted down to understand.  With that in mind, and I'm sure if SHE was still alive Audrey Hale would agree, the speech from Christians is offensive and violent, therefore Queers have every right to use as much force, to include deadly force, as necessary to stop that violent speech.

[rmgill]

The speech/violence thing is NOT something that I've seen out of Erin or the fragmentary leadership (it's like a herd of cats) in the Pink Pistols chapters. 

The point is that their objectives ares defensive and always defensive. A couple of years ago some mumbling was made of a sorta offensive bent with Trump on the horizon. I seem to recall that being shut down hard within the Pink Pistols. 

Hence why this clear declaration: "We do not act out of vengeance. We act only in defense. Anyone who does otherwise is not one of us, and we will act to stop them by any legal means necessary."

I see that as a shot across the bow of anyone who tries to justify the shooting up of the school. 

Edited April 2, 2023 by rmgill

[BansheeOne]

I gotta say the whole "queers killing Christians!!!!111!!!" thing is a fine example of typical loony dichotomic rampage exegesis, since the shooter used to attend the school herself. I'm unironically sure somewhere someone on the Left is classing this as an anti-queer hate crime 'cause the shooter thought that school made her gay, and somewhere someone on the Right hails it as a strike against the cultural Marxist conspiracy to make everyone gay for the same reason.

[Ivanhoe]

14 hours ago, rmgill said:

I see that as a shot across the bow of anyone who tries to justify the shooting up of the school. 

Fine, but the statement "At no other time in recent history has the fight for both transgender rights and firearm rights been more critical. We have seen legislation limiting, or outright banning, gender-affirming care which has the potential to impact many transgender individuals and restrict their ability to live happy lives. " would seem to imply support for the current trend of teachers and doctors coercing 5 year olds to believe they are trans.