Chris Werb Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Yes, I'm familiar with your national laws. It's actually arguably easier for a private individual to get a post 86 selective fire weapon here than in the US (google "HBSA + machine gun"). You will have seen a bunch of Forgotten Weapons videos Ian made at a movie guns rental company in Canada to get his hands on things he couldn't in the US. Some things you consider "destructive devices" are no harder to get here than a single shot .22 rifle. A 155mm howitzer and Ruger 10/22 are on the same licence here. My Ruger Mk 1 bull barrel is now a "prohibited weapon" and was smelted 22 years ago, but I can have a Chiftain tank with an operational main gun. Personally, I'd be far happier with Alabama gun laws, but I think they're right for Alabama, not the UK. I'd stick with our hunting and fishing laws though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bd1 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 legally, could you hunt with a chieftain tank then or is it unsportsmanlike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Werb Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 legally, could you hunt with a chieftain tank then or is it unsportsmanlike? The problem would be that, with a Section 1 firearm, unlike a shotgun, you have to be granted "conditions" for its use that reflect the intended purpose(s) or "good reasons" for which you applied to possess it. If you put down "hunting" as a good reason, you would almost certainly be turned down*. Unfortunately you couldn't get around it by simply smoothboring the barrel as anything over 2 inches in calibre is at least Section 1 in status, but you could fit a subcalibre insert in the gun to up to 2 inch smoothbore and hunt with it, legally. *And might receive a visit from the Police and your local Community Mental Health Team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep854 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Way too many Americans are grossly ignorant of USian gun laws--note the ridiculous claims during gun control agitation campaigns... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheeOne Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 The problem would be that, with a Section 1 firearm, unlike a shotgun, you have to be granted "conditions" for its use that reflect the intended purpose(s) or "good reasons" for which you applied to possess it. If you put down "hunting" as a good reason, you would almost certainly be turned down*. Unfortunately you couldn't get around it by simply smoothboring the barrel as anything over 2 inches in calibre is at least Section 1 in status, but you could fit a subcalibre insert in the gun to up to 2 inch smoothbore and hunt with it, legally. A foxhunt steed for the gentleman of the 21st century! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojan Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 20mm is close to 10g... Just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Werb Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 20mm is close to 10g... Just saying I think in the States 10g is the limit allowed on migratory wildfowl since laws came in to prevent market hunting in the 1900s. Here we still have a number of people who use "punt guns". Maximum calibre 1.75 inches. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punt_gun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9r_ZckAmkc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargrunt6 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 20mm is close to 10g... Just saying I think in the States 10g is the limit allowed on migratory wildfowl since laws came in to prevent market hunting in the 1900s. Here we still have a number of people who use "punt guns". Maximum calibre 1.75 inches. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punt_gun 10ga is usually for turkey. I haven't seen a 10ga in stores for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzermann Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 10ga is usually for turkey. I haven't seen a 10ga in stores for years. 10 Gauge has had a bit of a renaissance in Europe, because lead shot is being frowned upon. To have the same mass thrown at fowl (or clay pigeons), some hunters switch to 10 ga steel shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Werb Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 10ga is usually for turkey. I haven't seen a 10ga in stores for years.10 Gauge has had a bit of a renaissance in Europe, because lead shot is being frowned upon. To have the same mass thrown at fowl (or clay pigeons), some hunters switch to 10 ga steel shot. 3.5" 12 ga pretty much obsoleted 10 ga in the US, because it offers almost the same capability in a lighter handier gun. I have heard that, with the same load of shot in the same choke, the 10 ga does pattern significantly better though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregShaw Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 10ga is usually for turkey. I haven't seen a 10ga in stores for years.10 Gauge has had a bit of a renaissance in Europe, because lead shot is being frowned upon. To have the same mass thrown at fowl (or clay pigeons), some hunters switch to 10 ga steel shot. 3.5" 12 ga pretty much obsoleted 10 ga in the US, because it offers almost the same capability in a lighter handier gun. I have heard that, with the same load of shot in the same choke, the 10 ga does pattern significantly better though. Shorter, squarer shot charges generally pattern better than longer charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bd1 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 well, co-worker just got back from reservist training and was amongst the first to handle the R-20 as the LMT´s new official designation goes. the weapon seems to be light and very accurate, ´hope that´s not on account of reliability´ as he said ( he´s done tour in Afg and as they were together with US Cav, he has done some familiarisation on M4, i remember him going very quiet when he heard that our new weapon is going to be AR). overall, he seemed guarded but optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawes Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 LMT has a stellar reputation, so I would be surprised if that rifle was anything less than very reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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