Protests In Hong Kong

[Stuart Galbraith]

 

Im disappointed they have not raised the ROC flag....

 

They were never part of the Republic of China. They were a British Crown Colony at that time. I do note they aren't flying the flag of the country that gave them to the PRC.

 

 

I know. They were never part of the US either, and they were flying their flag the other day as well, as pointed out above.

Edited August 15, 2019 by Stuart Galbraith

[DKTanker]

Not at all. If Amazon et al wish to support the Chinese Communist Party and its enlightened policies on LGBT issues and human rights they may. It is, however odd that they support things like concentration camps for gays in China but oppose laws about people with penises using women's and girl's washrooms.

 

It is a bit concerning, though, that they also support suppression of both conservative speech and speech supporting democracy in China or criticism of the CCP and its leadership.

Birds of a feather....

[Tim the Tank Nut]

I wonder how many protestors are carrying Huawei phones?

Thursday's print edition of the WSJ had a piece on Huawei in Africa. Same China we all know and love using business technology as an oppressor.

[Josh]

Im sure China has a good idea of who is protesting. On the other hand arresting one million people is probably unrealistic even for china. But Ive no doubt they are attempting to sift through the data to ID ringleaders. Hopefully they are smart enough to use couriers and real life contact, or third party western encryption services to minimize exposure.

[Burncycle360]

Satire, but...

 

America Offers To Trade All Of Its Communists For Democratic Protesters In Hong Kong

WASHINGTON, D.C.—The American state department has come up with an ingenious plan to solve China's democratic protest problems and make our nation great again in one fell swoop.

Through some great negotiating on the part of Donald Trump, we've struck a deal to trade all of our country's Communists for Hong Kong's democratic protesters.

After the deal was made, the military began rounding up the Communists---who didn't complain, as they're all for an authoritarian state---and putting them in cargo planes. They were then flown across the Pacific Ocean and dropped off in Hong Kong before the democratic protesters in China were loaded up into the now-empty planes and flown back to America.

"This is the best deal, maybe ever," said Trump. "We'll get rid of some wackos on the left, my buddy Xi will be happy with his new commie followers, and we'll gain some great new citizens who will be really appreciative to me and never complain about anything. Greatest deal in the history of deals."

The president started to rethink his decision when the democratic protesters began to criticize his anti-Second Amendment views, and he quickly tried to put them under a "Red Flag" provision.

 

https://babylonbee.com/news/america-offers-to-trade-its-communists-for-democratic-protesters-in-hong-kong?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro

[rmgill]

Yeah, I'm such a racist, I'd trade ~7 Million hard working (and not so hard working) chinese from Hong Kong for all of our woke progressives (white or otherwise).

[JasonJ]

French spiderman climbs HK skycraper in effort to make a feel good truce to both sides.

 

HONG KONG--French "spiderman" climber Alain Robert scaled a 68-story skyscraper in Hong Kong on Friday to hoist a flag symbolizing reconciliation between China and the territory as weeks of escalating pro-democracy protests show no signs of abating.

 

Using his bare hands and without a harness, Robert clambered up Cheung Kong Center located in the central business district and secured a large banner on the building's exterior.

 

The sign positioned China's flag in the left hand corner with Hong Kong's flag on the right side. Underneath was a yellow hand shaking a red hand on a white background to signify peace.

 

Robert's climb comes as more mass demonstrations are expected through the weekend. China has likened the protests to terrorism and warned it could use force to quell them, as U.S. President Donald Trump urged Chinese President Xi Jinping to meet with protesters to defuse weeks of tension.

 

It was the third time Robert climbed the Center, which is owned by Cheung Kong Holdings. He was banned from climbing buildings in the former British colony for a year last August. His ban ended two weeks ago.

 

Dressed in bright hues of purple, pink and green, Robert was arrested after the climb and taken to a nearby police station.

 

He often climbs without permission and has been arrested several times, sometimes for trespassing.

 

Li Ka Shing, whose family owns the Cheung Kong Center, published a series of advertisements in Hong Kong's major newspapers on Friday urging people to stop the violence.

 

Ten weeks of confrontations between police and protesters have plunged Hong Kong into its worst crisis since it reverted from British to Chinese rule in 1997, and have presented the biggest popular challenge to Xi since he came to power in 2012.

 

The protests began in opposition to a now-suspended bill that would have allowed the extradition of suspects for trial in mainland China, but have swelled into wider calls for democracy.

 

More than 700 people have been arrested since the protests began in June, and tear gas has frequently been used by police in attempts to disperse protests across the city.

 

http://www.asahi.com/sp/ajw/articles/AJ201908160045.html

[Ssnake]

Le suprenant homme de l'araignée strikes again!

 

(And now I'm beginning to suspect why there are so few French superhero comic books...)

[Nobu]

This Carrie Lam should be facing increasing and extreme pressure from both the escalating Occupy movement below her, and the Beijing management level above her.

 

What is surprising and irritating is that she has not cracked.

[Mr King]

Ha these fools think the 2nd amendment is for protecting yourself from the tyranny of the government, I have it on very good authority that it is only for creating a state militia. I bet they think they are being oppressed by real communists too.

 

[rmgill]

https://www.instagram.com/p/B00WnMvgOF7/?utm_source=ig_web_options_share_sheet

Edited August 16, 2019 by rmgill

[Burncycle360]

[Stuart Galbraith]

This Carrie Lam should be facing increasing and extreme pressure from both the escalating Occupy movement below her, and the Beijing management level above her.

 

What is surprising and irritating is that she has not cracked.

 

The story on the BBC is that she may have offered to resign, and the PRC wont accept. That is probably the best explanation so far, after all the PRC wont want there being a precedent.

[JasonJ]

 

 

[Josh]

 

 

This Carrie Lam should be facing increasing and extreme pressure from both the escalating Occupy movement below her, and the Beijing management level above her.

 

What is surprising and irritating is that she has not cracked.

The story on the BBC is that she may have offered to resign, and the PRC wont accept. That is probably the best explanation so far, after all the PRC wont want there being a precedent.

Im sure the PRC made it abundantly clear she would be incarcerated if she left her position.

[JasonJ]

An "anti-violence, save Hong Kong" demonstration today at Tamar Park. Probably leans a little Pro-Beijing.

[Nobu]

The rejection of this Carrie Lam's offers to resign indicate the presence of a faction in their government that agrees with her restraint-based approach, which, frankly, is not helping matters.

 

The way events have transpired so far Lam would probably not bat an eyelash if she were sentenced to death, never mind prison.

[Chris Werb]

Does anyone here think having a US style armed populace in Hong Kong start to light up the security forces there would actually end well? There's a place for self-serving fantasy, but I don't think playing Red Dawn in a city of 7 million people has a lot to commend it.

[DKTanker]

Does anyone here think having a US style armed populace in Hong Kong start to light up the security forces there would actually end well? There's a place for self-serving fantasy, but I don't think playing Red Dawn in a city of 7 million people has a lot to commend it.

I'm reminded of the Venezuela coup attempt. Media talking heads were exclaiming that the coup had no chance because the populace had essentially been disarmed by the Venezuelan government. Of course as soon as they figured out what they were saying they quickly dropped that line of thinking.

 

But yeah, better Red than Dead. Better to submit and be led into captivity than fight for freedom. That's historically worked well for population groups, hasn't it?

[JasonJ]

Back a couple of days ago during the Airport demonstrations, among the protesters group was found one man with a "I Love HK Police" shirt in his bag.

 

He got roughed up.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-15/have-the-hong-kong-protesters-gone-too-far/11413890

Edited August 18, 2019 by JasonJ

[Nobu]

Does anyone here think having a US style armed populace in Hong Kong start to light up the security forces there would actually end well? There's a place for self-serving fantasy, but I don't think playing Red Dawn in a city of 7 million people has a lot to commend it.

 

Ending well for whom would be the logical follow-up question. Chinese on Chinese violence is not going to end well for Chinese, obviously, But that may not be the case for those for which such violence has historically provided opportunities..

[JasonJ]

Jackie Chan backs Beijing.

 

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"...I also deeply feel that safety, stability, and peace are like fresh air, you never know how precious it is until you lose it. ..."

[JasonJ]

And the actress, Liu Yifei, in Disney's upcoming live action film version of Mulan also backs the HK Police.

 

 

SINGAPORE - Several actors have come under fire online for their remarks regarding the ongoing Hong Kong protests.

The latest is Chinese-American actress Liu Yifei, for her comment supporting Hong Kong's police force as clashes between protesters and the police continue in the city.

Liu, 31, who will star in the 2020 Disney live-action remake of Mulan as the titular heroine, posted the comment on China's Weibo microblogging platform on Wednesday (Aug 14).

Liu, who has about 65 million followers on Weibo, shared a post by China's People's Daily news outlet which carried an image with the words "I support Hong Kong's police, you can beat me up now".

The image also had the line "What a shame for Hong Kong", said entertainment news outlet, The Hollywood Reporter.

Liu added the hashtag "#IAlsoSupportTheHongKongPolice" in her post.

According to media reports, the post received more than 72,000 likes and over 65,000 shares in less than 24 hours.

But netizens also slammed the posts on social media, with many calling for the public to boycott Disney's Mulan remake, and the hashtag "#BoycottMulan" trending on Twitter in the United States early on Friday.

Twitter user Cheuk Ting Ho wrote that she was happy when Disney announced the live-action remake of Mulan as the character was a childhood hero.

But she was disappointed to see the actress who will play the character "not empathise with the protesters in Hong Kong".

"They are fighting for their homeland like Mulan," she said in her post, which included the hashtag "#BoycottMulan".

Another Twitter user, John Stone, who also urged for a boycott of the new Mulan movie, said the actress stood "against the people of Hong Kong".

Liu, who has been nicknamed "Fairy Sister" by her Chinese audience, spent part of her childhood in New York and has acted in English-language films, including 2008's The Forbidden Kingdom, opposite actors Jackie Chan and Jet Li.

Chan, a Hong Kong action star, has also faced backlash for remarks on the ongoing tensions in the city.

In an interview with China Global Television Network posted to YouTube on Tuesday, Chan, 65, said: "Recently there have been events in Hong Kong that have made people sad and depressed...

"I've visited many countries while our country was rapidly developing in recent years, I feel the pride of being a Chinese everywhere; the five-starred red flag is respected worldwide."

Chan added that "Hong Kong is my birthplace and my home, China is my country; I love my country and my home".

"I really hope Hong Kong can return to peace soon," he said.

In response to the interview, pro-democracy Twitter account Hong Kong World City wrote "Hong Kong hates you",while Twitter user JP said: "When we tell you we're from Hong Kong, please never ask us about Jackie Chan ever again."

Chan, who is best known for his martial arts stunts, has starred in several Chinese and American movies, including Drunken Master (1978), Police Story (1985) and Rumble In The Bronx (1995).

https://www.straitstimes.com/lifestyle/entertainment/jackie-chan-disney-mulan-star-liu-yifei-slammed-for-comments-on-hong-kong

[JasonJ]

Might be some interesting back and fourths between Pro-Democracy HK and Pro-Beijing camps since there currently are no posters to represent Pro-CCP here.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/hong-kong-protests-l-updates-news-discussion.623438/page-20#post-11700549

[JasonJ]

New protests crackdown propaganda video