Mikel2 Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 I vaguely remember the crusades (as messed up as they were) as a response to the Muslim take over of the holy land. Somehow this part tends to be forgotten quite often. Response to attacks on pilgrims too. Also, waiting for some kind of bleeding hearts we ask forgiveness for Reconquista. Well you hurt yourself with it. After the days of enlightenment, tolerance and scientific advance under Muslim rule, you got the Spanish inquisition and the dark ages. (and no I am not kidding, as this is written in a German tourist guide about Andalucia)Surely contemporary Germans were exemplary when it came to witch and heretic burning
BansheeOne Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 In all fairness, the New Zealand bombing postings started off without its own thread either but in the Paris/France terror thread (IIRC). Its contents got moved into a new thread. It certainly is worth its own thread IMO if the same favor as the New Zealand thread could be done.Doug Richards was first to point out both incidents, in existing terror threads. I think he's just an economical type like that. I can't say Sri Lanka is getting less attention than New Zealand did on German news sites so far, even though the attackers neglected to stream their acts live and NZ profited from its peaceful remote first-world nation image, increasing the news value of unexpected large-scale violence as opposed to Sri Lanka with its recent history of civil war and terrorism. In fact on another largely American, rather more right-wing board I frequent, nobody has bothered to bring up the attacks so far. Dog bites man vs. man bites dog, and all that.
JasonJ Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 In all fairness, the New Zealand bombing postings started off without its own thread either but in the Paris/France terror thread (IIRC). Its contents got moved into a new thread. It certainly is worth its own thread IMO if the same favor as the New Zealand thread could be done.Doug Richards was first to point out both incidents, in existing terror threads. I think he's just an economical type like that. I can't say Sri Lanka is getting less attention than New Zealand did on German news sites so far, even though the attackers neglected to stream their acts live and NZ profited from its peaceful remote first-world nation image, increasing the news value of unexpected large-scale violence as opposed to Sri Lanka with its recent history of civil war and terrorism. In fact on another largely American, rather more right-wing board I frequent, nobody has bothered to bring up the attacks so far. Dog bites man vs. man bites dog, and all that. And even if he was economical, he was about to declare forums war on Buddhists so it didn't really feel like lost love for Christians. Yeah the Americans, it's that disposition to just be contrary about everything. But I am sure there is a way to get passed it once in while, even if it is like navigating through a storm Its come up on Japanese media quite quickly. Part of the evolving news-feed are foreigners among the dead, including one Japanese. Americans, British, and others were also killed.
R011 Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 Well a newly formed Islamic organization takes credit. No shock here. Timcast is commenting on it. OK, I was actually wondering if the bombings were related to The Tamil Tiger War or some new offshoot;It may still be. There have been recent attacks by Sinhalese Buddhists against Tamil Muslims. How much of that is religious and how much ethnic with a religious tinge? It could be that IS has taken advantage to recuit local knuckleheads
WRW Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 Am off work at moment so have time to watch TV and read www. Couple of thoughts Fatality rate is very high in comparison to wounded - anybody have any idea of what was used for shrapnel? also saw internal video of main target church - as surprised at what I thought was low level of pockmarking of wall - unless of course the congregation took most of the blast a six foot plastic pipebomb found at airport - anybody know anything on this?some unexploded bombs were found by police - some cleared some detonated with police casuallties anybody know nature of the explosive? detonators were found - 80+ I think - this may be a stupid sounding question but do they come in boxes of 100 - otherewise why so many is there mining in Sri lanka - where could a nefarious character get hold of explosives on the island Does anyone know details of the warning received - content and source - I saw somewhere Australian ? but am not sure
R011 Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 They could well be explosives left over from their civil war.
MiloMorai Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 Doesn't say where was the source was from.​​International intelligence agencies warned of the attacks several times starting April 4, Senaratne said. On April 9, the defense ministry wrote to the police chief with intelligence that included the group's name, he said. On April 11, police wrote to the heads of security of the judiciary and diplomatic security division, Senaratne said.It was not immediately clear what action, if any, was taken in response. Authorities said little was known about the group except that its name had appeared in intelligence reports.
Stuart Galbraith Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 Intelligence reports on an attack came in from America and India (I idly wonder if they are a member of 5 eyes?). Reports went to the Ministry of Defence, whom passed it on to the head of the police, and nobody seems to know what happened after that point. Rumour mill says they got lost top level politics. There is a lot of very ticked off people in Sri Lanka at the moment.
Jeff Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 The talking points have gone out, don't use the "C" word! We're not Christians, we're Easter worshippers. https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1120096123128045569
Burncycle360 Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 Nobody use the "C" word for Easter Worshiping Deities sake!
Ivanhoe Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 Doug Richards was first to point out both incidents, in existing terror threads. I think he's just an economical type like that. Do you mean ecumenical, perhaps? .
MiloMorai Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 Word is the attacks were in retaliation for the Christchurch attack. https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/the-latest-sri-lanka-bombings-retaliation-for-christchurch/ar-BBWcJGj?ocid=spartanntp
Stuart Galbraith Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) I think thats a fairly unconvincing explanation. If they were that bothered by the Christchurch attacks, why did they make no effort to do what that attacker did, live streaming? Would be fairly easy to double up on an attacker with a cameraphone and upload it, even if the attacker cant do it himself. I think they have been planning this for a while, and I suspect this goes back before Christchurch. Im thinking it has more the hallmarks of Al Qaeda attacks, because the scale goes beyond even what ISIS did in its heyday. It will be interesting to see what the linkage is.l Edited April 23, 2019 by Stuart Galbraith
Soren Ras Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 I think they have been planning this for a while, and I suspect this goes back before Christchurch.Agree. Blaming Christchurch is most likely a target of opportunity that just happens to be the most recent one with major media coverage. --Soren
Jeff Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 WaPo once again focuses on the real enemy of civilization. Look at those white supremacists and their candles, er, torches!
DougRichards Posted April 23, 2019 Author Posted April 23, 2019 The talking points have gone out, don't use the "C" word! We're not Christians, we're Easter worshippers. https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1120096123128045569What the fuque is an "Easter Worshiper" ? If you are going to talk about the deaths of Christians in Sri Lanka you can at least name their faith, and of their Lord. Christ! Not some pagan goddess oestra.
NickM Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 Doug Richards was first to point out both incidents, in existing terror threads. I think he's just an economical type like that. Do you mean ecumenical, perhaps? . No definitely means economical: Doug was using an existing thread rather than starting a new one-until now.
BansheeOne Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 Someone sent out talking points alright. Getting worked up over someone refering to Christians worshipping at Easter like Christians are supposed to as Easter worshippers rather than Christians (on Twitter, that well-known medium for elaborate theological treatises) is some quite highly refined pearl clutching. You might even say it's positively Muslim in its sensitivity to perceived offenses against ones faith.
Stuart Galbraith Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 Doug Richards was first to point out both incidents, in existing terror threads. I think he's just an economical type like that. Do you mean ecumenical, perhaps? . No definitely means economical: Doug was using an existing thread rather than starting a new one-until now.
Stuart Galbraith Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 There is an interesting listing here of all those killed. Whilst it was undoubtedly targeted against Christians, the actually butchers list is far wider ranging.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-48002169
MiloMorai Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 The talking points have gone out, don't use the "C" word! We're not Christians, we're Easter worshippers. https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1120096123128045569What the fuque is an "Easter Worshiper" ? If you are going to talk about the deaths of Christians in Sri Lanka you can at least name their faith, and of their Lord. Christ! Not some pagan goddess oestra. Many Christians only go to church on special occasions, like Easter and Christmas.
Markus Becker Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 I think they have been planning this for a while, and I suspect this goes back before Christchurch.Agree. Blaming Christchurch is most likely a target of opportunity that just happens to be the most recent one with major media coverage. --Soren But off course that doesn't stop the German MSM to warmly embrace this spin for it allows them to put the blame not at the feet of the Muslim extremists, which they apparently tried hard and long not to mention as possible suspects. Same procedure as last time.
Paul G. Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 Buddhism as another religion of peace?Depending on region. Here in Russia, for centuries Kalmyks (nomads and Buddists) were keeping Chechens (Muslims highlanders with reputation of born fighters) in fear and in mountains, and even now Chechens are afraid do misbehave while in Kalmykia. Couple of years ago young Chechen mixfighter somehow mistreated Budda image in Kalmykia - as result he was forces to run for his life. At least Christianity disowns and condemns those who claim to act in its name. Were Crusades condemned?Imperialism + the Cold War + oil revenue has as much to do about current terrorism as any religion.
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