Richard “Dick” Cole Goes West

[bojan]

What were those troops doing in China anyway? It not like China started it by invading Japan...

[Jeff]

What about civilians who enable their nations to go on murderous rampages across entire hemispheres, what moral responsibilities do they have?

 

A justification for violence against non-combatant civilians along similar lines, involving the responsibility of those civilians on the ground who assisted and enabled the escape of the Doolittle Raiders, may have been a consideration in the Imperial Japanese Army's planning and execution of its subsequent 3-month campaign targeting the areas where the raiders landed.

 

Holding non-combatants responsible for the actions of their respective military forces is a slippery slope downward toward justifications for targeting medical personnel, nurses, clearly marked hospital ships, and civilian women and children as legitimate targets of war in various ways.

 

I find WWII Japanese victimism to be sickening.

 

My observation of how bomber aircrew may eventually meet those civilians whose deaths were caused by the bombs they dropped also applies to those IJNAF and IJAAF aircrew who participated in the bombing campaign against Chinese cities.

 

Well, you've successfully pissed all over this memorial. Well done.

[JasonJ]

What were those troops doing in China anyway? It not like China started it by invading Japan...

There shouldn't have been Russians in Vladivostok. They still there today.

 

Japan should have taking the moral superiority position and let Russia all of Korea too, right?

 

What was the Comintern doing by declaring spreading communism all over the world?

 

The "second united front" was made in December 1936. The Second Sino-Japanese War didn't start yet. The Chinese wanted to expand the fighting to the scale of the Second Sino-Japanese War. Chiang Kai-Shek was ready to expand the fighting to not just the north but also to Shanghai, throwing the bulk of his best troops (who were trained by Nazi Germany) in there, and hoping to drag the US into war with Japan in 1937.

 

People have the stupid idea that Japan lanched a full out invasion on China from the offset.

[JasonJ]

 

What about civilians who enable their nations to go on murderous rampages across entire hemispheres, what moral responsibilities do they have?

 

A justification for violence against non-combatant civilians along similar lines, involving the responsibility of those civilians on the ground who assisted and enabled the escape of the Doolittle Raiders, may have been a consideration in the Imperial Japanese Army's planning and execution of its subsequent 3-month campaign targeting the areas where the raiders landed.

 

Holding non-combatants responsible for the actions of their respective military forces is a slippery slope downward toward justifications for targeting medical personnel, nurses, clearly marked hospital ships, and civilian women and children as legitimate targets of war in various ways.

 

I find WWII Japanese victimism to be sickening.

 

My observation of how bomber aircrew may eventually meet those civilians whose deaths were caused by the bombs they dropped also applies to those IJNAF and IJAAF aircrew who participated in the bombing campaign against Chinese cities.

 

Well, you've successfully pissed all over this memorial. Well done.

Karma for not wheeling back on the narrative the Japan was the full blame for the war and creating a category of "class A war criminals" on the basis of "aggression".

 

Being dragged into the Korean War and Fat-Kim today is also part of that Karma. Korea got cut in half with the northern half tossed to the Soviets by the US in 1945.

[Jeff]

 

 

What about civilians who enable their nations to go on murderous rampages across entire hemispheres, what moral responsibilities do they have?

 

A justification for violence against non-combatant civilians along similar lines, involving the responsibility of those civilians on the ground who assisted and enabled the escape of the Doolittle Raiders, may have been a consideration in the Imperial Japanese Army's planning and execution of its subsequent 3-month campaign targeting the areas where the raiders landed.

 

Holding non-combatants responsible for the actions of their respective military forces is a slippery slope downward toward justifications for targeting medical personnel, nurses, clearly marked hospital ships, and civilian women and children as legitimate targets of war in various ways.

 

I find WWII Japanese victimism to be sickening.

 

My observation of how bomber aircrew may eventually meet those civilians whose deaths were caused by the bombs they dropped also applies to those IJNAF and IJAAF aircrew who participated in the bombing campaign against Chinese cities.

Well, you've successfully pissed all over this memorial. Well done.

Karma for not wheeling back on the narrative the Japan was the full blame for the war and creating a category of "class A war criminals" on the basis of "aggression".

 

Being dragged into the Korean War and Fat-Kim today is also part of that Karma. Korea got cut in half with the northern half tossed to the Soviets by the US in 1945.

 

 

If you're looking for moral high ground for Imperial Japan's actions, I'm not biting.

[JasonJ]

 

 

 

What about civilians who enable their nations to go on murderous rampages across entire hemispheres, what moral responsibilities do they have?

 

A justification for violence against non-combatant civilians along similar lines, involving the responsibility of those civilians on the ground who assisted and enabled the escape of the Doolittle Raiders, may have been a consideration in the Imperial Japanese Army's planning and execution of its subsequent 3-month campaign targeting the areas where the raiders landed.

 

Holding non-combatants responsible for the actions of their respective military forces is a slippery slope downward toward justifications for targeting medical personnel, nurses, clearly marked hospital ships, and civilian women and children as legitimate targets of war in various ways.

I find WWII Japanese victimism to be sickening.

 

My observation of how bomber aircrew may eventually meet those civilians whose deaths were caused by the bombs they dropped also applies to those IJNAF and IJAAF aircrew who participated in the bombing campaign against Chinese cities.

 

Well, you've successfully pissed all over this memorial. Well done.

Karma for not wheeling back on the narrative the Japan was the full blame for the war and creating a category of "class A war criminals" on the basis of "aggression".

Being dragged into the Korean War and Fat-Kim today is also part of that Karma. Korea got cut in half with the northern half tossed to the Soviets by the US in 1945.

If you're looking for moral high ground for Imperial Japan's actions, I'm not biting.

I'm looking for fair treatment. I have proactively admitted many faults and problems with Imperial Japan in past walls of text and often also inclusded parts to not leave the US at such high fault. All in vein.

 

The brainwashed side is more on the American side.

 

Still a teenager inside of you.

[Jeff]

 

 

 

 

What about civilians who enable their nations to go on murderous rampages across entire hemispheres, what moral responsibilities do they have?

 

A justification for violence against non-combatant civilians along similar lines, involving the responsibility of those civilians on the ground who assisted and enabled the escape of the Doolittle Raiders, may have been a consideration in the Imperial Japanese Army's planning and execution of its subsequent 3-month campaign targeting the areas where the raiders landed.

 

Holding non-combatants responsible for the actions of their respective military forces is a slippery slope downward toward justifications for targeting medical personnel, nurses, clearly marked hospital ships, and civilian women and children as legitimate targets of war in various ways.

I find WWII Japanese victimism to be sickening.

 

My observation of how bomber aircrew may eventually meet those civilians whose deaths were caused by the bombs they dropped also applies to those IJNAF and IJAAF aircrew who participated in the bombing campaign against Chinese cities.

Well, you've successfully pissed all over this memorial. Well done.

Karma for not wheeling back on the narrative the Japan was the full blame for the war and creating a category of "class A war criminals" on the basis of "aggression".

Being dragged into the Korean War and Fat-Kim today is also part of that Karma. Korea got cut in half with the northern half tossed to the Soviets by the US in 1945.

If you're looking for moral high ground for Imperial Japan's actions, I'm not biting.

I'm looking for fair treatment. I have proactively admitted many faults and problems with Imperial Japan in past walls of text and often also inclusded parts to not leave the US at such high fault. All in vein.

 

The brainwashed side is more on the American side.

 

Still a teenager inside of you.

 

 

This has been discussed in other more proper topics, I'll not continue it here.

[rmgill]

Same thing caused the My Lai massacre.

Which Japanese officers filed charges against and stopped Japanese officers committing warcrimes?

 

Did any Japanese officers play the part of WO1 Thompson?

[JWB]

 

Same thing caused the My Lai massacre.

Which Japanese officers filed charges against and stopped Japanese officers committing warcrimes?

 

Did any Japanese officers play the part of WO1 Thompson?

 

What does any of that have to do with combat psychosis ?

[R011]

Whar was Westmoreland's version of the Three Alls policy again? ARVN equivalent of Unit 731? NVA equivalent of Changi Prison?

 

Japanese atrocities were not the result of poorly disciplined troops overreacting, but deliberate policy.

Edited April 17, 2019 by R011

[R011]

When US authorities learned of My Lai, they knew it was wrong even if they occilated between coverup and prisecution. The Japanese, on the other hand, reported an alleged prisoner murder competition as if it was a basketball game.

[JasonJ]

 

 

 

 

 

What about civilians who enable their nations to go on murderous rampages across entire hemispheres, what moral responsibilities do they have?

 

A justification for violence against non-combatant civilians along similar lines, involving the responsibility of those civilians on the ground who assisted and enabled the escape of the Doolittle Raiders, may have been a consideration in the Imperial Japanese Army's planning and execution of its subsequent 3-month campaign targeting the areas where the raiders landed.

 

Holding non-combatants responsible for the actions of their respective military forces is a slippery slope downward toward justifications for targeting medical personnel, nurses, clearly marked hospital ships, and civilian women and children as legitimate targets of war in various ways.

I find WWII Japanese victimism to be sickening.

 

My observation of how bomber aircrew may eventually meet those civilians whose deaths were caused by the bombs they dropped also applies to those IJNAF and IJAAF aircrew who participated in the bombing campaign against Chinese cities.

 

Well, you've successfully pissed all over this memorial. Well done.

Karma for not wheeling back on the narrative the Japan was the full blame for the war and creating a category of "class A war criminals" on the basis of "aggression".

Being dragged into the Korean War and Fat-Kim today is also part of that Karma. Korea got cut in half with the northern half tossed to the Soviets by the US in 1945.

If you're looking for moral high ground for Imperial Japan's actions, I'm not biting.

I'm looking for fair treatment. I have proactively admitted many faults and problems with Imperial Japan in past walls of text and often also inclusded parts to not leave the US at such high fault. All in vein.

The brainwashed side is more on the American side.

Still a teenager inside of you.

This has been discussed in other more proper topics, I'll not continue it here.

I will respect this.

[bojan]

 

Did any Japanese officers play the part of WO1 Thompson?

 

I don't know for Japanese, but there were few Germans who occasionally refused to shoot civilians and suffered for it.

[Mikel2]

 

 

Did any Japanese officers play the part of WO1 Thompson?

 

I don't know for Japanese, but there were few Germans who occasionally refused to shoot civilians and suffered for it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Battel

[Nobu]

The Imperial Japanese Army's 1937 equivalent of the Kommissarbefehl that stipulated guidelines for treatment of captured combatants in the China theater differed from the German version in that it was inclusive of all those captured, not just political officers.

 

The Emperor's endorsement of this general order likely quelled any unease the Japanese officer corps may have had regarding it, as throughout the war in this theater, the IJA appears to have not granted captured Chinese combatants the protections of prisoner-of-war status as a general rule.

 

Conversations regarding this are of interest between friends and colleagues, but quietly and carefully spoken.

[Panzermann]

beep

Edited April 21, 2019 by Panzermann

[Panzermann]

 

Did any Japanese officers play the part of WO1 Thompson?

I don't know for Japanese, but there were few Germans who occasionally refused to shoot civilians and suffered for it.

 

Actually the nazis knew very well that you cannot force anyone to commit atrocities absolutely against their will. Unreliable men were transfered most of the time.