Indian Air Strikes Target Militants In Pakistan (+)

[Nobu]

All Pakistani F-16s present and accounted for according to the non-Indian source Foreign Policy.

 

The eagerness of India and Indians to claim an F-16 kill now starts to appear more like desperation in various ways. The sound of 1.3 billion Indians crying out as one in rage at the news will likely create an environment for hostilities to continue.

[Colin]

Possible they shot down something else?

[Stuart Galbraith]

Im not sure the fixation everyone has on the F16 is a great idea. For all we know this might have been a JF17.

[Josh]

Regardless, the bombing itself seems to have been an embarrassing failure. I don't 100% buy the altitude excuse, because I didn't think that is how GPS bombs have their coordinates loaded, but it does seem clear nothing of value was hit. Where as the Indians definitely lost an aircraft in the ensuing air battle.

[Chris Werb]

Glenn, you're still not getting the geometry of mountains and mountain valleys vs radar, even on aircraft flying comparatively high.

[Stuart Galbraith]

20 minutes of multiplayer on DCS, he would get it. I just wasted 4 perfectly good Phoenix missiles because some bar steward decided to duck behind a mountain. Some people just dont want to stand and fight fair.

[glenn239]

Glenn, you're still not getting the geometry of mountains and mountain valleys vs radar, even on aircraft flying comparatively high.

 

Using the example of high points around Amistrar and Jammu and looking in the direction of Islamabad. You're saying, even if the available elevation is several hundred meters above the plains, the mountains somewhere around maybe Kotli or Gujar Khan are obstructing the horizon at and east of Islamabad to above 30,000 feet, correct?

[glenn239]

 

Glenn, you're still not getting the geometry of mountains and mountain valleys vs radar, even on aircraft flying comparatively high.

 

 

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Using the example of high points around Amistrar and Jammu and looking in the direction of Islamabad. You're saying, even if the available elevation is several hundred meters above the plains, the mountains somewhere around maybe Kotli or Gujar Khan are obstructing the horizon at and east of Islamabad to above 30,000 feet, correct? Which ones?

 

 

I just wasted 4 perfectly good Phoenix missiles because some bar steward decided to duck behind a mountain.

 

 

Phoenix is to a 40N6 as AA-2 Atoll is to an AIM-9X.

Edited April 13, 2019 by glenn239

[Stuart Galbraith]

Glenn, you really need to go and read something about the AWG-9/Phoenix combination. Its yet to be bettered.

[GARGEAN]

...In DCS.

[Colin]

My first experience firing artillery in direct fire mode at a target on a elevation lower than my gun was a tad embarrassing. It's not as easy as it seems and that was using a stationary gun, not a moving aircraft that needs to consider anti-aircraft defenses as well.

[Josh]

I suspect DCS is more practical knowledge then the account I ignore and only see in quotes has. The tone has changed and been less combative; I think were dealing with a different Russian.