Colin Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 â€Washington wants to know if Pakistan used U.S.-built jets to down Indian warplane So, USA is reviewing possible end-user agreement violation as AMRAAMs apparently were meant to be used against Taliban (?) and not India. Meanwhile, India bombed Pakistan with French made Mirages in blatant offensive action. In response, Pakistan bombed India with French-made Mirages. French don't seem to mind... Trump's arms export policies seem not very well thought out - they're underscoring to countries all over the world that US weapons systems have serious political strings attached. Are you sure they are Trumps export polices that led to this?
Yama Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) And just because the US wants to know if an AMRAAM was used doesn't mean a violation occurred. The US might just want to make sure Pakistan sends Raytheon the required data from the engagement. Or the DoD might just be trying to get ahead of hostile questions from Congress or the media. Personally, if AMRAAMs really were fired by F-16's in Pakistani airspace at Indian fighters that were also in Pakistani airspace when the missiles were fired, I doubt that the US will be able to find a violation. But the threat of a violation could help get to the bottom of what actually happened.Well, the missile wreckage was found in Indian side. In fact supposedly it was found like 50km from the border. Of course, Pakistani can always claim that they fired it at self-defence against an Indian plane inside Pakistani airspace, the missile missed and flew to Indian side. Who knows, that might be even the truth. Edited March 5, 2019 by Yama
Roman Alymov Posted March 5, 2019 Author Posted March 5, 2019 Seems like at least one of Indian strikes was miss, probably due to faulty target coordinates data (or altitude not taken into consideration as bombs hit downslope)
Stuart Galbraith Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Ridding the world of terrorist trees, one branch at a time.
Coldsteel Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Well that's a terribly inefficient way of doing it, you've got to get the roots or it'll just grow back.
Stuart Galbraith Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Yes. Where is Agent Orange, now that we really need him?
Roman Alymov Posted March 5, 2019 Author Posted March 5, 2019 https://www.rt.com/news/453038-pakistan-navy-submarine-india/?fbclid=IwAR3eqByR6RoBqWHSh8AZ8v85879ZSE80ppzC6Cgv4yKIy9C2uunOG3DA45APakistan's Navy claims it prevented Indian submarine from entering its waters
glenn239 Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Colin Are you sure they are Trumps export polices that led to this? It was Trump's Administration that made the threat.
Detonable Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 Pakistan has over 100 nukes? What is the reliability of this information? I wonder how long it took the United States or the USSR to get to 100 nukes.
Detonable Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 US export policy should be to restrain a war, regardless of who is president. I doubt that Trump is intimately involved.
Stuart Galbraith Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 He is actually taking about ending India's favoured trading status with the US. Which is either a very clever ploy to get India to play ball, or more likely he hasnt noticed WW3 is about to start and he is more worried about trade. Ill let others be the judge on that one.
glappkaeft Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 I wonder how long it took the United States or the USSR to get to 100 nukes. The US had 110 warheads in 1948. https://web.archive.org/web/20130414093222/http://www.nrdc.org/nuclear/nudb/datab9.asp
EchoFiveMike Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 US export policy should be to restrain a war, regardless of who is president. I doubt that Trump is intimately involved.US export policy should be to benefit Americans and advance their interests. Having China and India self immolate and take Pakistan with them would be nice. S/F...Ken M
Stuart Galbraith Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 And suddenly 90 percent of your export market goes up in Smoke, and you all start dying of cancer from long range fallout. Wonderful, lets do that, like, right away.
Yama Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 And suddenly 90 percent of your export market goes up in Smoke, and you all start dying of cancer from long range fallout. Wonderful, lets do that, like, right away. Yes, but WEAPONS export market will go up!
Stuart Galbraith Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 Yes, and it will be a free for all for property developers. Radioactive Golf course for everyone! Modi's party is remarkably candid about what they are doing. Risking Thermonuclear war to win more seats.... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-47439101A gaffe is when a politician tells the truth, American political journalist Michael Kinsley said.Last week, a prominent leader of India's ruling Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) appeared to have done exactly that. BS Yeddyurappa said the armed aerial hostilities between India and Pakistan would help his party win some two dozen seats in the upcoming general election.The remark by Mr Yeddyurappa, former chief minister of Karnataka, was remarkable in its candour. Not surprisingly, it was immediately seized upon by opposition parties. They said it was a brazen admission of the fact that Prime Minister Narendra Modi's party was mining the tensions between the nuclear-armed rivals ahead of general elections, which are barely a month away. Mr Modi's party is looking at a second term in power.Mr Yeddyurappa's plain-spokenness appeared to have embarrassed even the BJP. Federal minister VK Singh issued a statement, saying the government's decision to carry out air strikes in Pakistan last week was to "safeguard our nation and ensure safety of our citizens, not to win a few seats". No political party can afford to concede that it was exploiting a near war for electoral gains.
EchoFiveMike Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 And suddenly 90 percent of your export market goes up in Smoke, and you all start dying of cancer from long range fallout. Wonderful, lets do that, like, right away. Stick to trains, you clearly have no idea WTF you're talking about. We (America, I don't know nor care about your UK issues, nor do they matter to the US, you parasites) have significant trade DEFICITS with these shitholes, if they go away, we're ahead. And as for fallout, we obviously survived the 50's and 60's atmo testing of far larger weapons, much closer, so please close your idiot mouth, step away from the keyboard and stop lowering the collective IQ of the internet. Clown. S/F...Ken M
Josh Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 That is not remotely how deficits work. Any nuclear exchange of any kind would throw the global economy into a new great depression, particularly if China was involved. As to whether that would be worth it in a cost benefit analysis, that depends on how much of a threat China is. I know you are of the opinion the US should have nuked the USSR when it was the sole nuclear power,so I'm sure any war involving nukes hitting China is Christmas for you, but don't pretend the US would just shrug it off.
EchoFiveMike Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 Terrible, I'm sure the stock markets would tumble, and gajillions of electrons of fantasy money would evaporate, and yet people would still need to live and eat, and life would go on for people who actually do tangible things, and not shuffle paper or sell fake rubber dog shit to benumbed wage slaves desperately seeking some stimulus to break up the complete monotony of their endless grinding existence. So no, I don't care if it's "bad." S/F....Ken M
Josh Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 A lot of people who 'make things' would be similarly out of jobs, since their products are focused on international markets. For instance soy bean growers are already getting crushed by tariffs as it is, let alone if the entire international market stopped all at once. I've no doubt at some point the US would re-orient its production to the new reality, but the idea that only paper pushers would suffer is fantasy.
Mistral Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 There is a reason why some people are rich and some are poor, this was example of why.
EchoFiveMike Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 Truly rich, in the USA of 2019? Amoral sociopathy, being part of the ruling elite with their strong in group nepotism, and a shameless willingness to exploit the naive, high trust, legacy society. America has had it too easy, and even now, you mention not giving a shit about foreigners, and the suicidal altruistic virtue signalers and swindlers come out in droves. S/F...Ken M
Stuart Galbraith Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) And suddenly 90 percent of your export market goes up in Smoke, and you all start dying of cancer from long range fallout. Wonderful, lets do that, like, right away. Stick to trains, you clearly have no idea WTF you're talking about. We (America, I don't know nor care about your UK issues, nor do they matter to the US, you parasites) have significant trade DEFICITS with these shitholes, if they go away, we're ahead. And as for fallout, we obviously survived the 50's and 60's atmo testing of far larger weapons, much closer, so please close your idiot mouth, step away from the keyboard and stop lowering the collective IQ of the internet. Clown. S/F...Ken M Yes, I could tell you to stick to towing trucks, which is clearly a forte of yours you actually know something about. Yeah, having lost a father to cancer 2 years ago, I dont reckon much to your glibness on cancer, so please, spare me your efforts to convince me. Twat. Edited March 7, 2019 by Stuart Galbraith
Stuart Galbraith Posted March 7, 2019 Posted March 7, 2019 https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-india-kashmir/india-holds-kashmir-separatists-under-law-allowing-imprisonment-without-charge-idUKKCN1QO1BY?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&rpc=69 SRINAGAR, India (Reuters) - Indian authorities on Thursday extended the detention of two separatist leaders in the disputed Kashmir region, police said, holding them under a controversial law that allows for suspects to be held for up to two years without charge. The order is part of a crackdown on militancy and those who demand mostly Muslim Kashmir’s secession, after a young man from the region last month rammed a car full of explosives into a convoy of paramilitary policemen, killing 40 of them.The attack was claimed by a Pakistan-based Islamist militant group.Police detained Yasin Malik, the chairman of the Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front (JKLF) and one of the most influential separatist leaders in Kashmir, and Zahid Ali, a spokesman for the recently banned Jamaat-e-Islami party, days after the attack.The government accuses Jamaat-e-Islami of supporting militancy in Indian-controlled Kashmir, which is at the heart of decades of conflict with Muslim Pakistan.Jamaat-e-Islami said last week it had not done anything to invite the ban. The group could not be reached for comment on Thursday.Police said both Malik and Ali were being moved to a jail in Jammu, the winter capital of Jammu and Kashmir state.A JKLF spokesman condemned the “arbitrary arrest” and the use of the public safety act against Malik, calling it a “glaring display of frustration” of Indian authorities.Imprisoned as a militant in 1990, Malik renounced violence and declared a ceasefire in 1994, but he has been imprisoned multiple times since then.Malik’s supporters called for a shutdown in parts of Kashmir’s main city of Srinagar city to protest against his detention with shops and other commercial establishments closed.Mirwaiz Umar Farooq, chairman of the separatist umbrella All Parties Hurriyat Conference, denounced in a post on Twitter the authorities’ “illegal and undemocratic tactics” and said they would not stop demands for a peaceful resolution of the Kashmir dispute “in accordance with people’s will”.He and other separatist leaders have called for a strike in Kashmir on Friday.Kashmir has been divided and disputed since the partition of the British colony of India and the creation of independent India and Pakistan in 1947. They both rule it in part but claim it in full.
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